15. Nicolas Jackson

[Thor 2,688]

This video sums things up nicely. 

Jackson is fine, but nobody is really creating as nicely for him as is made out. Should he have scored the game prior? Yes, but Haaland has also missed a couple sitters already - difference is he keeps getting really, really good opportunities time and time again.

[robsblubot 3,595]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

This video sums things up nicely. 

Jackson is fine, but nobody is really creating as nicely for him as is made out. Should he have scored the game prior? Yes, but Haaland has also missed a couple sitters already - difference is he keeps getting really, really good opportunities time and time again.

Agree and disagree. Don't think City (or Halland) is a good A/B source for comparison either-just too many variables. I think it's less tactics and more players, or the lack there of, than the utuber there.

Jackson is not "fine" at this level. He's fine if you consider the circumstances, but I'm really tired of appending every sentence with "for a 19-23yo fresh in the PL." 😕 

The part I agree with is the obvious one; for me the worst players on the pitch were both Mudryk and Enzo. Mudryk looked clueless as usual, but Enzo... did he even play?! no yellow card, no fight, no drive... just disappointing and yes, I'm the one who says he's wasted in that CAM position. Still this performance was not cool!
Now you consider that the one senior excellent attacking winger we got lost his RB buddy. I know folks are in love with Gusto, but boy, going forward he's really limited compared to James.

So, we were starved of quality in all areas of attack against bournemouth.: Left with Mudryk (and tbf not a proper LB), Enzo wasted in CAM, and Sterling no getting two ones, so of course Jackson struggled! He's not the real deal yet, just like most of our team, so he can't overcome such challenges just yet.

Does anyone think Connor getting time on the ball and space to operate, but Enzo getting none was an accident? That's coaching. If I play against Chelsea I'd tell my players that Enzo will not play; the others are somewhat free to roam, but Enzo will enjoy tight marking all game. Not really that complicated.

Edited September 18, 2023 by robsblubot

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

6 hours ago, Thor said:

This video sums things up nicely. 

Jackson is fine, but nobody is really creating as nicely for him as is made out. Should he have scored the game prior? Yes, but Haaland has also missed a couple sitters already - difference is he keeps getting really, really good opportunities time and time again.

Yes, everyone is missing big chances but conversation rate makes the difference.

Haaland last season 36 goals and 28 big chances missed. This is conversation rate of 56%.

This season he has 7 goals and 8 big chances missed. 46%.

Jackson is on 1 goal and 6 big chances missed. 14%.

[Vesper 30,083]

11 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Yes, everyone is missing big chances but conversation rate makes the difference.

Haaland last season 36 goals and 28 big chances missed. This is conversation rate of 56%.

This season he has 7 goals and 8 big chances missed. 46%.

Jackson is on 1 goal and 6 big chances missed. 14%.

and Håland will sort his misses, book it

he is obsessive and two months ago he was still only 22! He is still on an early career learning curve (which is terrifying)

[robsblubot 3,595]

19 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Yes, everyone is missing big chances but conversation rate makes the difference.

Haaland last season 36 goals and 28 big chances missed. This is conversation rate of 56%.

This season he has 7 goals and 8 big chances missed. 46%.

Jackson is on 1 goal and 6 big chances missed. 14%.

Right, but Jackson isn't Haaland. I don't think anyone needs to be reminded of that. I'm sure Haaland would do more than Jackson because he's a far superior striker, no doubt. Saying otherwise is just silly tbh.

You are not wrong that Jackson is lacking esp that finishing touch, but our final third production is erratic at best, and non-existent at times. The striker will always be affected by that and so will his conversion rate.
It's one thing to play for a team which is firing in all cylinders, dominating games, and you know you don't need to score... that a new chance is just around the corner. It's entirely different when you are under pressure and the whole team is misfiring.

So, even seemingly personal stats like conversion rate aren't really self-contained.

Edited September 19, 2023 by robsblubot

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

Comparing anyone to Haaland is, well, just ridiculous. Like there is no striker in world football at that age that comes close. But people want to make the comparison anyway, baffling. 

[Thor 2,688]

No one is comparing. It is comparing the "big chances" that Chelsea get compared to City and they just happen to be the strikers. 

The quality of "big chances" Chelsea get isn't close to that of Man City. That is the point. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

10 hours ago, Thor said:

The quality of "big chances" Chelsea get isn't close to that of Man City. That is the point. 

Yes! and not only the quality, the abundance of them, the dominance the team exerts (or not), how many touches the striker gets (or not), whether the team is chasing a result often, is he played ball to feet or ball into space? high balls or low crosses, how many teammates does he have in support? many so many variables... 

Ironically, another thing that hurts Jackson is not having a proper senior striker backup. Imagine a Giroud type who could share the blunt of physicality and rotate with him? It's common practice in football, for ex, to employ the more physical striker first, and once the CBs are mellowed out (as in tired and beaten up) in the second half, then get the pacier one in.

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

Heard the majority of Jackson's chances came from crosses that were deflected. 

So yeah, the quality of big chances is definitely a case. 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Heard the majority of Jackson's chances came from crosses that were deflected. 

So yeah, the quality of big chances is definitely a case. 

He still missed many sitters. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,375]

18 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

He still missed many sitters. 

As does every top striker. The amount of quality of chances he receives is the difference. He'll miss a sitter than won't get anything else all match. Liverpool and West Ham immediately come to mind. 

[OneMoSalah 8,883]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

He still missed many sitters. 

I suppose if Vlahovic or Felix missed them you’d be blaming the quality of the service….