The Next Manager?

[nadavTKL 1,787]

AVB played the style Roman want, and bla bla bla. Simeone will follow AVB and RDM path.

It seems you still dont realy want to explain your original post (i mean the part about Moyes, and why Laudrup and Benitez are better options than Simeone).

But anyway- no, AVB tried to play his style from Porto, not what "Roman wanted", Roman probably brought him because he knew about his football philosophy and he thought thats what he wanted in Chelsea. Simeone plays tottaly different football in Atletico, kind a reminds Mourinho's philosophy. RDM proved (imo) in his days that he doesnt have a real good plan, he started by playing Ramires/Bertrand on the wing- which is pretty defensive, probably not what "Roman Wants"... and than saw it doesnt work and played the three of Hazard, Mata and Oscar. Our game most of the time looked very improvised, with no real plan. So, i dont think RDM did what Roman wanted, he just didnt know what to do to lift the team and get it together. I havent thought he needed to get sacked, but it seemd he wasnt a great tactican (but maybe he would have done better later if he stayed, idk).

[DH1988 1,348]

Ruin another legend.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

hearing rumors of ZOLA getting the job...

where? if its twitter give me the account please.

[Atwa 78]

Please not Zola.. it will ultimately end with another legend getting fired.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

hearing rumors of ZOLA getting the job...

I bloody hope not....after what he done for the club he dont deserve to be treated like shit!He's doing well at Watford surley be wise to stay there and build a team etc rather then spend a few months and get the flick!

[Henrique 9,133]

where? if its twitter give me the account please.

Probably random bullshit. I remember about Scolari, a journalist in Brazil said in his blog Scolari was the next manager one week before the announcement, and the british was still speculating.

Same about AVB, the media and twitter were talking about Hiddink and Harry one day before Porto confirmed the portuguese was in talks with Chelsea.

What about Guardiola? According to the british media Guardiola would snub Chelsea...and goes to City...

[xPetrCechx 13,573]

Probably random bullshit. I remember about Scolari, a journalist in Brazil said in his blog Scolari was the next manager one week before the announcement, and the british was still speculating.

Same about AVB, the media and twitter were talking about Hiddink and Harry one day before Porto confirmed the portuguese was in talks with Chelsea.

What about Guardiola? According to the british media Guardiola would snub Chelsea...and goes to City...

50%

[didierforever 7,349]

where? if its twitter give me the account please.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2264359/Sport-newspaper-review-January-18-Gianfranco-Zola-emerges-Chelsea-managerial-contender.html

daily fail and a lot of others speculating...

[Hannah 200]

According to The Telegraph, Chelsea are monitoring David Moyes' situation.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/9813543/David-Moyes-emerges-as-real-contender-to-take-over-from-Rafa-Benitez-as-Chelsea-manager-in-the-summer.html

[dave30 728]

Vote Zola or Moyes people!!! Roman will be made to listen by sheer talkchelsea numbers alone.

[Blue Gino 377]

Diego Simeone would be the type of leader this squad would go into battle for but he doesn't do possession football. In fact he called Barca "boring" and as for Moyes, most Everton fans will gladly help pack his bags after ten years of what they consider boring and negative football.

[Blue Gino 377]

I'm placing Frank De Boer of Ajax at the top of my wish list. McEachran would be an ideal component in De Boer's squad with his incredible vision and passing accuracy. There's lots of versatility in the squad to achieve his fluid 4-3-3 but Roman would have to offer the same assurances he would have given Guardiola and allow De Boer have an influence over the youth set up as well. De Boer has it made at Ajax but that league routinely loses their best players.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

Eva Caneiro :blue scalf:

[22mek22 133]

Simeone for me

[DH1988 1,348]

Someone who doesn't currently speak English..

My top choice is Moyes, failing that Klopp.

Last resort: Jose.. :-/

[Shogun 721]

Diego Simeone would be the type of leader this squad would go into battle for but he doesn't do possession football. In fact he called Barca "boring" and as for Moyes, most Everton fans will gladly help pack his bags after ten years of what they consider boring and negative football.

Don't talk about things you don't know.

I posted this is the Rafa out thread but I suppose it's better here...

The only argument against Moyes being a top manager is for a club like Everton he should have won a trophy, yet most people don't realise just how shit we were when he took over and the following proves that. He took over at the near on end of the 2001-02 season and here are the finishes we had not long before that.

96/97 - 15th

97/98 - 17th

98/99 - 14th

99/00 - 13th

00/01 - 16th

01/02 - 15th

Considering in his first season, first XI was:

------------------------------Richard Wright-----------------------------

Tony Hibbert------David Weir---------Alan Stubbs----David Unsworth

Thomas Gravesen----Li Tie----------Lee Carsley-----Gary Naismith---

---------------Thomasz Radzinski-------Kevin Campbell----------------

That team was somehow guided to 7th place in Moyes' first proper season, you look at that team and let's be honest it is a relegation team which was reflected the next season when we finished 17th in 03-04

Then we finished 4th in the 04-05 season when we were one of the favourites for relegation and had sold Rooney to Manchester United. Now, lets be honest here that's an absolutely amazing thing to do after finishing 17th and selling your best player for £27m and only spending £8m to cover it in transfers. I don't think many managers could have done that.

After crashing out of the champions league qualifiers to a very tough draw against Villareal we finished 11th the following year.

After that we had succession of top six finishes for 4 years before finishing 8th, 7th and 7th which brings us up to now.

Consider that when David Moyes took over, we'd only finished in the top ten once since the premier league began. In 10 years on a shoe string budget (5.6m net spend since he arrived) he has 8 top 8 finishes under his belt.

David Moyes has transformed Everton into an competitive side in my opinion. Sometimes in cups you need luck, had we beat Fiorentina on penalties in 07 we'd have faced PSV in the quarter finals of the Uefa Cup in the 07-08 season and who knows what could have happened from there considering we had already beat the eventual winners. We could have won the FA Cup in 09 but just came short.

You look at the team I posted at the top and if I told you at the time that Everton would be competing for Europe regularly in ten years time with a net spend of around £5m in the next ten years then I'm pretty sure all of us would be amazed.

I think all that is worth a lot more than a few cup wins. What do you think Birmingham City would have preferred, the league cup or the above?

However, I really can't see Moyes going to Chelsea, one thing he often eludes to is that he has a perfect relationship with Bill Kenwright, our chairman. I don't think he believes that Roman could offer the same thing.

As for the style of football, the better players he has, the better the football. we've played some great stuff this season.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Don't talk about things you don't know.

I posted this is the Rafa out thread but I suppose it's better here...

The only argument against Moyes being a top manager is for a club like Everton he should have won a trophy, yet most people don't realise just how shit we were when he took over and the following proves that. He took over at the near on end of the 2001-02 season and here are the finishes we had not long before that.

96/97 - 15th

97/98 - 17th

98/99 - 14th

99/00 - 13th

00/01 - 16th

01/02 - 15th

Considering in his first season, first XI was:

------------------------------Richard Wright-----------------------------

Tony Hibbert------David Weir---------Alan Stubbs----David Unsworth

Thomas Gravesen----Li Tie----------Lee Carsley-----Gary Naismith---

---------------Thomasz Radzinski-------Kevin Campbell----------------

That team was somehow guided to 7th place in Moyes' first proper season, you look at that team and let's be honest it is a relegation team which was reflected the next season when we finished 17th in 03-04

Then we finished 4th in the 04-05 season when we were one of the favourites for relegation and had sold Rooney to Manchester United. Now, lets be honest here that's an absolutely amazing thing to do after finishing 17th and selling your best player for £27m and only spending £8m to cover it in transfers. I don't think many managers could have done that.

After crashing out of the champions league qualifiers to a very tough draw against Villareal we finished 11th the following year.

After that we had succession of top six finishes for 4 years before finishing 8th, 7th and 7th which brings us up to now.

Consider that when David Moyes took over, we'd only finished in the top ten once since the premier league began. In 10 years on a shoe string budget (5.6m net spend since he arrived) he has 8 top 8 finishes under his belt.

David Moyes has transformed Everton into an competitive side in my opinion. Sometimes in cups you need luck, had we beat Fiorentina on penalties in 07 we'd have faced PSV in the quarter finals of the Uefa Cup in the 07-08 season and who knows what could have happened from there considering we had already beat the eventual winners. We could have won the FA Cup in 09 but just came short.

You look at the team I posted at the top and if I told you at the time that Everton would be competing for Europe regularly in ten years time with a net spend of around £5m in the next ten years then I'm pretty sure all of us would be amazed.

I think all that is worth a lot more than a few cup wins. What do you think Birmingham City would have preferred, the league cup or the above?

However, I really can't see Moyes going to Chelsea, one thing he often eludes to is that he has a perfect relationship with Bill Kenwright, our chairman. I don't think he believes that Roman could offer the same thing.

As for the style of football, the better players he has, the better the football. we've played some great stuff this season.

Great post, very informative.

My problem with Moyes is not that he's done great things despite having to sell his best player and work with comparative peanuts, but that at Chelsea he'd have to do essentially the complete opposite. He'd be under no pressure to sell his best youngsters, he'd have maybe treble the budget and he'd be on a bigger stage (with all respect to Everton).

He's done amazing work but the types of challenges he'd face would be completely different. I like him, but it would be a gamble.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Eva Caneiro :blue scalf:

NO WAY, she will be sacked!

[Pizy 18,951]

NO WAY, she will be sacked!

She can sack me any time she want to.

[Fulham Broadway 17,332]

NO WAY, she will be sacked!

But then there will be all the media stories feeling sorry for her, how football has rejected her, with sultry poses, and she will resort becoming a Playboy centrefold.

Possibly.