The Next Manager?

[mkh 764]

🗣💥Cesc Fabregas: "I’m very happy because I’m in a place that’s helping me grow to levels I probably wouldn’t have been able to find anywhere else.

I can do it my way, the way I want. This is like going to university every day."

(@COPE)

[Duppy Conqueror 1,584]

Feels like Xabi is this summer or probably never.

Iraola will get a big job somewhere and emulate Simeone minus the shithousesary but like Simeone needs footballing Spartans to die for him where as BlueCo are more drawn to footballing Eunochs.

Cesc probably would like to coach us someday but confident there'll be multiple other opportunities in the future.

 

[Duppy Conqueror 1,584]

Is abit mad how Xabi,Iraola and Arteta all grew up drinking the same water so to speak at the same time..

Edited 14 hours ago by Duppy Conqueror

[Strike 7,807]

26 minutes ago, Duppy Conqueror said:

Is abit mad how Xabi,Iraola and Arteta all grew up drinking the same water so to speak at the same time..

All of them and Emery come from the industrial Guipuzcoa province  https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4904302/2023/09/28/arteta-emery-iraola-premier-league-guipuzcoa-managers/ 

 

[Thor 2,831]

12 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Underwhelming as fuck

You're underwhelmed by Xabi? 

 

Who do you want? SAF? 

[Special Juan 28,788]

1 hour ago, Thor said:

You're underwhelmed by Xabi? 

 

Who do you want? SAF? 

Yeah he would do, sort these soft cunts out both players and board

[Fulham Broadway 17,764]

The job at Stamford Bridge is not nearly as tempting as it used to be, and has pretty much lost its appeal to the very top coaches.

The squad isn’t ready to compete at the top, and those coaches won’t get the control they want to change that.

[Special Juan 28,788]

28 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

The job at Stamford Bridge is not nearly as tempting as it used to be, and has pretty much lost its appeal to the very top coaches.

The squad isn’t ready to compete at the top, and those coaches won’t get the control they want to change that.

Exactly

[Pizy 19,288]

As we’re speaking right now the Chelsea job is probably at its lowest ever point in terms of attractiveness to any TOP manager.

But I actually think that ironically if we miss out on Europe altogether it becomes VERY attractive. You almost get to ease into the job at a super high pressure club with much more training time to get your ideas across to your new squad and you can fully focus strictly on the PL.

If the new man can get 3-4 of his handpicked signings I think theres every chance we pull a Man United and go from abysmal to a UCL place in the span of a season. As horrendous as we’ve been this season the “bones” are still something we have.

Any prospective manager looking at the Chelsea job will be excited seeing that the likes of Caicedo, James, Palmer, João Pedro, Estevão, etc are here already and have the ability to perform at a world class level if coached properly.

[Fulham Broadway 17,764]

 The problem is not just status and lack of European Football. If you look at Guardiola’s success at Manchester City as an example of a manager receiving the players he wanted, contrasting it with situations where coaches are told to work only with what they are given. Without addressing these factors, Chelsea risk narrowing their pool of willing elite candidates. Elite managers do not look favourably on someone pulling their strings.

[Special Juan 28,788]

Emery is an also an example of a coach that controls things, you can clearly see that, but he also worked closely and had a great relationship with Monchi who has departed for Espanyol. It is massively important for a coach to work alongside the directors not against them or as individuals and this is exactly where we lay.

The gap in relationships between our coach, SD' and owners is massive, and manager/coach given players to work with rather than having a solid round table discussion and identifying a plan and identifying who should be bought.

I really do not think things will change anytime soon.

[Strike 7,807]

7 hours ago, Thor said:

You're underwhelmed by Xabi? 

 

Who do you want? SAF? 

People are forgetting the guy nearly won the treble with Bayer. 50+ games unbeaten in a season too while playing attacking football. 

 

[DDA 10,247]

I’m hanging my hat on Alonso.. but do not for a second think we will actually get him. 
 

Surely he ends up at the bindippers.

[Mhsc 1,146]

48 minutes ago, Strike said:

People are forgetting the guy nearly won the treble with Bayer. 50+ games unbeaten in a season too while playing attacking football. 

 

Villas Boas was hot for a minute as well, including going undefeated in the league and winning a treble. 

He was fucking shit though and Xabi might be as well.

But I'm happy to give it a go. I'd rather hang my hat on someone who's done a bit more over more seasons (e.g. Emery) but we are where we are. I have no idea what happened with him & Real as don't follow it but on blind faith willing to assume mad house situation that wasn't his fault.

[Fulham Broadway 17,764]

2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Emery is an also an example of a coach that controls things, you can clearly see that, but he also worked closely and had a great relationship with Monchi who has departed for Espanyol. It is massively important for a coach to work alongside the directors not against them or as individuals and this is exactly where we lay.

The gap in relationships between our coach, SD' and owners is massive, and manager/coach given players to work with rather than having a solid round table discussion and identifying a plan and identifying who should be bought.

I really do not think things will change anytime soon.

True. And using five Sporting Directors to spy on each other and report back to the owners is a typical divide and rule tactic.

5 Sporting Directors, 8 managers, 55 players....Blueco model

One Step Beyond...

[Mhsc 1,146]

4 hours ago, Pizy said:

As we’re speaking right now the Chelsea job is probably at its lowest ever point in terms of attractiveness to any TOP manager.

But I actually think that ironically if we miss out on Europe altogether it becomes VERY attractive. You almost get to ease into the job at a super high pressure club with much more training time to get your ideas across to your new squad and you can fully focus strictly on the PL.

Yes in some ways true. Thursday night football is also the worst possible schedule and Europa is just about hard enough that we can't send out a literal B team all the time either.

That said I imagine most managers (of the calibre we're targeting) also want a shot at winning a Europa league and would fancy themselves favourite to win it with us if we get in which could be a nice pull too (plus it is a very convenient backdoor to CL if you bottle the league)

Edited 26 minutes ago by Mhsc