The Next Manager?

[Pizy 18,851]

Think Brendan Rodgers would be a shrewd appointment but I also can't see him jumping ship midseason. 

[Tomo 21,751]

29 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Benitez would be a massive step backwards in my opinion bringing in someone more defensive minded, only to then go for a more attack minded coach in the summer I don't think will help the players at all. Also I'm not sure if he'd take the job, he seemed pretty pissed off with the lack of support from the board the first time he was here with the 'interim' tag, so cannot see why he'd want to come back and do that stint again.

Also I suppose the argument over a longer term appointment in the summer would be whether there are better options available than Tuchel and Allegri by then? I have doubts over both for varying reasons but there's no doubt that if we want a more experienced coach with a solid CV to come in, they both pass that test pretty well. 

Nagelsman I guess is the other realistic option if we're looking at the summer but whilst he has a lot more coaching experience than Lampard, there are still question marks over his ability to come in and manage a much bigger club than he has in the past with pressure and expectations to challenge and win trophies. 

That is true but with Nagelsmann we would atleast get some enjoyable and structured football and the potential reward is huge if it can come together. I was actually keen on Ten Hag intially because of 1) how he got Ajax playing in Europe and 2) whenever I saw them in the Dutch League they seemed to create an utterly obscene amount of quality chances (that couldn't just be explained away by saying weak league) but @Azul posted that he's not that highly rated by people who watch him week in week out.

Tuchel tactically suits these players and has a good record with youth at Dortmund but is apparently a loose cannon with boardroom relations.

Definitely agree we shouldn't be going for Rafa on an interim though, if we have to go down this route then we should give it to someone who will offer the continuity with the more progressive tactics.

[killer1257 3,282]

Ernesto Valverde?

Do you want to kill me? [emoji23]

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[killer1257 3,282]

That is true but with Nagelsmann we would atleast get some enjoyable and structured football and the potential reward is huge if it can come together. I was actually keen on Ten Hag intially because of 1) how he got Ajax playing in Europe and 2) whenever I saw them in the Dutch League they seemed to create an utterly obscene amount of quality chances (that couldn't just be explained away by saying weak league) but [mention=12552]Azul[/mention] posted that he's not that highly rated by people who watch him week in week out.
Tuchel tactically suits these players and has a good record with youth at Dortmund but is apparently a loose cannon with boardroom relations.
Definitely agree we shouldn't be going for Rafa on an interim though, if we have to go down this route then we should give it to someone who will offer the continuity with the more progressive tactics.

Tuchel is loose cannon in every department possible. At BVB, he did not rate the head scout of their team, who was the guy that scouted Lewandowski.BVB promoted the head scout instead of sacking him [emoji23]

He had difficulties with the board because he needed more money for transfers and was against selling certrain players. Also, Schmelzer, Reus and Hummels said after their win against Bayern in DFB final that they do not understand the decision of Tuchel for not not even putting Sahin in the squad for that final. They said that they are fully behind sahin, which is funny because they question in public the decison of their coach and apart from Reus, those are not WC players.

Mbappe and Neymar had beef with Tuchel almost every week. Tuchel had beef with Leonardo for not spending big in summer. Also, Tuchel is like Mou a loose cannon with handling media


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[ZaynChelsea 423]

If we focus on managers who are in charge of a club atm, there is no better option than HASENHÜTTL. Amazing style of play, proven youth developer, could get our Germans firing, turned around one of the biggest lows of PL history, overachieving massively with his team and PL proven. What more do you want from a manager?

[ZaynChelsea 423]

1 minute ago, killer1257 said:

Mbappe and Neymar had beef with Tuchel almost every week

You have been spreading that shit on a regular basis. Care to provide us with some proof?

[Superblue 6,372]

15 minutes ago, Tomo said:

That is true but with Nagelsmann we would atleast get some enjoyable and structured football and the potential reward is huge if it can come together. I was actually keen on Ten Hag intially because of 1) how he got Ajax playing in Europe and 2) whenever I saw them in the Dutch League they seemed to create an utterly obscene amount of quality chances (that couldn't just be explained away by saying weak league) but @Azul posted that he's not that highly rated by people who watch him week in week out.

Tuchel tactically suits these players and has a good record with youth at Dortmund but is apparently a loose cannon with boardroom relations.

Definitely agree we shouldn't be going for Rafa on an interim though, if we have to go down this route then we should give it to someone who will offer the continuity with the more progressive tactics.

I suppose one thing regarding Tuchel or a similarly combustible personality is hopefully the presence of Cech would now ease such relations having a potential 'sounding board' with the powers above.

I think the club, whilst not prepared to tolerate the outbursts from the likes of Jose and Conte, have looked to address such issues with structural changes to the hierarchy. That may help someone like a Tuchel work in a Chelsea environment.

[killer1257 3,282]

You have been spreading that shit on a regular basis. Care to provide us with some proof?

https://m.sportbild.bild.de/fussball/international/fussball-international/psg-kylian-mbappe-thomas-tuchel-frust-auswechslung-68867012.sportMobile.html

 

Tuchel got asked about his relationship with Neymar and Mbappe in almost every press conference.

 

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[Superblue 6,372]

6 minutes ago, ZaynChelsea said:

If we focus on managers who are in charge of a club atm, there is no better option than HASENHÜTTL. Amazing style of play, proven youth developer, could get our Germans firing, turned around one of the biggest lows of PL history, overachieving massively with his team and PL proven. What more do you want from a manager?

I like Hassenhuttl and I've been very impressed with the football Southampton play under him given the resources and (lack of) talent at his disposal.

My biggest concern with him would be the step up to managing a club the size of Chelsea and the pressures that brings. 

[killer1257 3,282]

I like Hassenhuttl and I've been very impressed with the football Southampton play under him given the resources and (lack of) talent at his disposal.
My biggest concern with him would be the step up to managing a club the size of Chelsea and the pressures that brings. 

Same can be said about Nagelsmann.

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[DDA 9,924]

13 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I like Hassenhuttl and I've been very impressed with the football Southampton play under him given the resources and (lack of) talent at his disposal.

My biggest concern with him would be the step up to managing a club the size of Chelsea and the pressures that brings. 

I think he would probably follow a similar path to Potch. It's clear to see when a manager has something about them and Hassenhuttl does.

[Superblue 6,372]

19 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

Same can be said about Nagelsmann.

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I agree, on an earlier post today I mentioned the same about Nagelsman. 

I would view the likes of Hassenhuttl and Nagelsman as riskier appointments than Tuchel and Allegri but I think the potential reward and upside is greater.

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, killer1257 said:

Not every club gets a Klopp. Conte and Mou are good coaches, but both are not good with youth, especially Mou.

Allgri is bad too. Tuchel might be ok, because he is a former youth coach, just like Brendan.

But most are like Sarri, who just think short term rather then long term

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Off the top of my head, I don't remember Klopp really utilizing Liverpool's youth players apart from in cup games in past seasons and until their injury crisis this season. TAA is the only one who has broken through and cemented his spot in the starting XI.

Agree with the notion there but one could argue that at least Lampard has opened the pathway for the youth players to the first team and has integrated several of those youth players in the first team already. They are now actual options for if/when the new manager comes in to consider for use, unlike in the past. And because of that work Lampard has done, would also like to think that the board would place greater emphasis on using the academy players on future managers. 

[Jase 43,479]

33 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

My biggest concern with him would be the step up to managing a club the size of Chelsea and the pressures that brings. 

Christ, are you gonna say that for every young manager out there?  

[lucio 5,418]

In recent years, big clubs have seen the benefit in investing in the youth academy and actually playing the players. Not only in the PL , top european clubs have done the same,