Clockwork 1,794 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 33 minutes ago, Mana said: How can Chelsea offer him anything while Conte is still here, not sacked? It's just unprofessional. When City did this with Pellegrini, many people thought it was disrespectful. I mean come on now, just sack Conte before doing these things. Huge difference here, City negotiated with Pep in January, while much of the season was going on. in our case, the season is over. Everything at this point is a formality, club is likely negotiating Conte buyout too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said: Any one got any idea's on why conte hasn't been sacked yet? Could he actually stay? Figures due to a mutual consent agreement on a pay off. When it comes out it won't read 'sacked' it will say mutual consent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,275 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, Special Juan said: Figures due to a mutual consent agreement on a pay off. When it comes out it won't read 'sacked' it will say mutual consent. So basically political bullshit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, BluesMadLad said: So basically political bullshit? Legalities etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Why did Napoli sack Sarri, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cosmin said: Why did Napoli sack Sarri, though? He wasn't committing to a new contract and the owner took matters into his own hands. oldportblue and Unionjack 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 The idea of Sarri not having won a trophy I personally think is a weak argument against him. Every manager starts somewhere. Klopp hadn't won anything before Dortmund took a chance on him, Conte hadn't won anything before Juventus, Mourinho before Porto, etc. These were all in a similar position to ourselves where they were in a period of difficulty in their respective leagues and turned to a manager that could change the whole culture and style of the club. The biggest job he has had by a country mile is Napoli and has improved them hugely, they've been a close second but they are up against a dominant Juventus side in Italy. There is no doubt that what he will bring is a completely different style to the club which we are in desperate need of. The days of Mourinho's first tenure at the club are long gone. We had the squad to play that ruthless, efficient way back then with huge characters and personality's. But as some have alluded to, time's have changed in football since then and there is a shift to a more aggressive, pressing, front foot style of football. We are way behind the times of this. With the exception of Ancelotti, all of our success has come off the back of more conservative, defensive managers and a brand of counter attacking football. It's becoming stale and the whole club needs re-energising. I'm not saying Sarri will be a guaranteed success. No one is, including other managerial options who have won trophies like Enrique or Blanc, or even keeping Conte. But he would be the best option available to radically change and transform our style of play and freshen up the approach. Fernando, kellzfresh, bluesman2610 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, BluesMadLad said: Any one got any idea's on why conte hasn't been sacked yet? Could he actually stay? He's on hhis hols so it'll be a Diego job by text! The difference being Conte isn't at some club begging and arse kissing trying to get a job. Sideshow Luiz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Pizy said: Many of the replies to this tweet are hilarious and also sadly true. We have several players who simply aren't good enough technically to play amazing, quick, one touch football. Cahill, Bakayoko, Alonso. Sarri is going to have some job on his hands working with many of them. Focusing too much on the negatives in my opinion. Most of the players in the squad are good enough to play Sarriball and the ones you've mentioned are some of the few that aren't. Frankly, regardless of who's the manager next season, our summer transfer business will have been an utter disaster if any of those three are in the starting lineup come August. Luckily we've got plenty of technical-minded and talented players on loan and in the academy, and I hope Sarri will live up to his reputation on developing existing players rather than engaging in a full-blown transfer spending spree. We only need 2 or 3 new signings in addition to returning loanees in order to to have a squad full of players that have all the qualities to play in Sarri's system. Superblue, Tomo and DDA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,275 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, !Hazard! said: Focusing too much on the negatives in my opinion. Most of the players in the squad are good enough to play Sarriball and the ones you've mentioned are some of the few that aren't. Frankly, regardless of who's the manager next season, our summer transfer business will have been an utter disaster if any of those three are in the starting lineup come August. Luckily we've got plenty of technical-minded and talented players on loan and in the academy, and I hope Sarri will live up to his reputation on developing existing players rather than engaging in a full-blown transfer spending spree. We only need 2 or 3 new signings in addition to returning loanees in order to to have a squad full of players that have all the qualities to play in Sarri's system. For me the jury is still out on baka. Hopefully a new manager can turn him into the player he was, not the player he has become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,937 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said: For me the jury is still out on baka. Hopefully a new manager can turn him into the player he was, not the player he has become. I think the jury is out on Bakayoko for 99% of the Chelsea fan base bar @bakayokofan xD 1905didierblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Bakayoko cannot get worse, the worrying thing is he can remain the same. xPetrCechx, bigbluewillie, Hamilton and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said: For me the jury is still out on baka. Hopefully a new manager can turn him into the player he was, not the player he has become. The expression the jury is still out implies there is some doubt and they can't make their mind up. That's not true in Bakayoko's case it's a unanimous decision he's fucking dreadful. bigbluewillie and Starman60 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akgw13 867 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 17 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Bakayoko cannot get worse, the worrying thing is he can remain the same. The only glimmer of hope I am holding on to is your point that he cannot get worse, He did play better in the last couple of games in the season. Get Sarri in and get Bakayoko working to understand his ideas. Short, quick passes with a triangle pattern always will help baka make the simple decisions to gather his confidence. Always being surrounded by more adept ball players should hopefully return him to the Monaco form not the dreadful form he has shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said: The idea of Sarri not having won a trophy I personally think is a weak argument against him. Every manager starts somewhere. Klopp hadn't won anything before Dortmund took a chance on him, Conte hadn't won anything before Juventus, Mourinho before Porto, etc. I'm not saying Sarri will be a guaranteed success. No one is, including other managerial options who have won trophies like Enrique or Blanc, or even keeping Conte. But he would be the best option available to radically change and transform our style of play and freshen up the approach. Agreed with the second part of the statement, but I beg to differ on the first one. All of the guys that you mentioned were young when those teams took a chance with them. Sarri is almost 60! The problem isn't that he won nothing, but that he had won nothing in 13 years of coaching. However, I would welcome him and wish him the best at Chelsea, but I am very skeptical about this. I'd like to point out that other clubs are doing business in the meantime, already buying players or negotiating for them. That's a wise thing to do, considering that a lot of prices will explode post-World Cup. All while Chelsea's board isn't able to announce the sacking of the manager already. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Pizy said: Many of the replies to this tweet are hilarious and also sadly true. We have several players who simply aren't good enough technically to play amazing, quick, one touch football. Cahill, Bakayoko, Alonso. Sarri is going to have some job on his hands working with many of them. The same was said about Koulibaly amongst others when he took over at Napoli. Yes there are some that are a complete wrong fit for Sarri and will need to be moved on (Baka), but others have at least the basic technique that could be worked with. If Jordan Henderson can be a regular starter for Klopp you can't tell me Drinkwater can't be a squad player for Sarri? Pizy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 32 minutes ago, Cosmin said: Agreed with the second part of the statement, but I beg to differ on the first one. All of the guys that you mentioned were young when those teams took a chance with them. Sarri is almost 60! The problem isn't that he won nothing, but that he had won nothing in 13 years of coaching. However, I would welcome him and wish him the best at Chelsea, but I am very skeptical about this. I'd like to point out that other clubs are doing business in the meantime, already buying players or negotiating for them. That's a wise thing to do, considering that a lot of prices will explode post-World Cup. All while Chelsea's board isn't able to announce the sacking of the manager already. Yeah but I do believe that there are special circumstances to his situation, being that he didn't become a professional coach until a few years ago. His two only proper managerial appointments have been over the past 6 years, first taking Empoli into Serie A and then respectably keeping them in the division on the smallest budget in the league whilst playing good football. And then he moved to Napoli which has obviously been his first real big job. We're not going to be appointing a coach for the next 10 years, it just won't happen. So Sarri being nearly 60 doesn't really make any difference. If he came in and did a good job and stayed for 3-4 years then job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,937 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, Tomo said: Drinkwater can't be a squad player for Sarri? Drinkwater isn't good enough to be playing at this level week in, week out. He isn't fit enough to lace Kante's boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Mana said: How can Chelsea offer him anything while Conte is still here, not sacked? It's just unprofessional. When City did this with Pellegrini, many people thought it was disrespectful. I mean come on now, just sack Conte before doing these things. That is almost what happens with every single sacking in football., The guy you want to replace the manager, is being spoken to well before the sacking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, DDA said: Drinkwater isn't good enough to be playing at this level week in, week out. He isn't fit enough to lace Kante's boots. He's not fit to lace Kante's boots but he's hardly much worse (if atall) than a player who could be the captain of the CL winners in just over 48 hours. The point i was trying to make is we have enough players who can be trained the "Sarri way" at least as squad players and like Henderson, Drinky has the workrate and an acceptable level of technique to play some part under Sarri, certainly before Baka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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