The Next Manager?

[Special Juan 28,124]

Matters little who comes in if the board don't back him, and I mean properly with proper funds. Player identification should be happening now.

[*Z4YN 69]

I sincerely hope that Simeone is on his way to the Bridge after this season.

If we get Allegri, we'll be searching for a new manager next season again. I don't rate him.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

At the moment for me :

1. Diego Simeone.

2. Jorge Sampaoli.

3. Antonio Conte.

4. Massimiliano Allegri.

Would like to think about someone like Roger Schmidt (Bayer Leverkusen) or Leonardo Jardim (Monaco) but that's surely no go.

But every one mentioned above has my fear. With no one I have 100% trust, not even Simeone. With everyone I can imagine failing, well only Simeone give me hope about sure top 4.

There's no clear target and with managers playing very different style linked with Chelsea you can be sure that club still has their options wide open.

If only Jose wasn't so damn stubborn ...

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Won't last more than a season, he'll be like a fish out of water.

Happy to be proven wrong.

[Laylabelle 9,534]

10 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Matters little who comes in if the board don't back him, and I mean properly with proper funds. Player identification should be happening now.

You'd hope so..Though with our record of late get halfway through summer and start signing randoms.Hope they don't expect miracles from the new manager.whoever he may be

[Fernando 6,585]

55 minutes ago, MefiX19 said:

Why people hate Allegri so much? He is brilliant manager who was one step from  winning the FUCKING TREBLE with team worth 130 million euros. This season Juve had slow start, but he just broke clubs record with 10+ win in a row.

Because Avram grant also come close to winning much, or RDM won the doble.

That doesn't impress me much, it was the work done with the club. Conte took a team from 7th spot and made them relevant. Allegri just came in a fill in like Avram.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

35 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yeah but didn't Conte build the current team?

Allegri is like a Avram, just took over a good squad and got farther in the CL then previous manager.

No:

4 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Apart from the CBs and Buffon, Allegri has basically had to rebuild the entire team since Conte left, especially this year after the departure of Pirlo, Tevez and Vidal.

He's also altered a lot in Juve's system. 

Don't get me wrong, what Conte did was incredible, nearly miraculous. He built a team with a small budget that won the Serie A unbeaten against all odds and went on to dominate. But that team is now, for the large part, history, so is Conte's 3-5-2 by his own admission. 

 

Won't even respond to the comparison with Grant, tbh... 

[Fernando 6,585]

1 minute ago, CHOULO19 said:

No:

Don't get me wrong, what Conte did was incredible, nearly miraculous. He built a team with a small budget that won the Serie A unbeaten against all odds and went on to dominate. But that team is now, for the large part, history, so is Conte's 3-5-2 by his own admission. 

 

Won't even respond to the comparison with Grant, tbh... 

Yeah but you also forget about mentality.

Juventus was like Liverpool. Conte brought that mentality and Juventus to relevance.

Current manager did not had part in that, just took over a well run team.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

3 hours ago, Pizy said:

To be honest, not that impressive to dominate Serie A when you have by far the most expensive team with by far the best players.

Factually incorrect. Conte's original team that won the league unbeaten was basically assembled from scraps. But even since then, Juve have been outspent in the market by Roma, Napoli and even Inter. From the XI that played Barcelona in the CL final last season, iirc only one player had cost more than 10 million Euros.

Best players, probably yes, but certainly not by far. Roma's squad, for example, is full of stars and many saw them as favorites for the title last season.

[the wes 7,212]

1 hour ago, MefiX19 said:

Why people hate Allegri so much? He is brilliant manager who was one step from  winning the FUCKING TREBLE with team worth 130 million euros. This season Juve had slow start, but he just broke clubs record with 10+ win in a row.

The reason I don't want Allegri getting the job cause he plays the 3-5-2 formation it does not work in the PL Rodgers try it at Liverpool and failed Lvg try it at utd and it didn't work for him as well 

[Cosmin 2,484]

Have people forgotten that Massimiliano Allegri won the Seria A with AC Milan too? Maybe it was Conte who built that team aswell. 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

3 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Yeah but you also forget about mentality.

Juventus was like Liverpool. Conte brought that mentality and Juventus to relevance.

Current manager did not had part in that, just took over a well run team.

Juve never lost the winning mentality even when they didn't win a title for 5 seasons. That's because the team still had a lot of the core players from pre 2006 such as Buffon, Chiellini, Del Pierro and even Nedved on the board.

The atmosphere around the club was probably worse when Allegri came in than when Conte took over. There were a lot of 'political' inside the club and the board was being accused of not spending enough and not getting Conte the players he wanted. There were also issues inside the squad. Issues that Conte himself had contributed quite a lot to, if I might add. 

Worse than all of that, though, was that almost everyone predicted and wanted Allegri to fail and he had HUGE pressure on him and he went out in his first season and nearly won the treble. Conte, in contrast, had very little pressure on him in his first season because Juve were not supposed to win the title, they weren't even favorites to make top 3! 

[CHOULO19 24,332]

29 minutes ago, the wes said:

The reason I don't want Allegri getting the job cause he plays the 3-5-2 formation it does not work in the PL Rodgers try it at Liverpool and failed Lvg try it at utd and it didn't work for him as well 

Conte was actually the one who installed the 3-5-2 formation in Juve and his was indeed similar to the one Rodgers tried at Liverpool

Juve's current system though, is different than those two 3-5-2s. It's a lot more dynamic and fluid and can turn into 4-4-2 instantly with Evra dropping back to make a back four and either Assamoah or Pogba can play left midfield. And it's always a 4-4-2 in defense. 

Plus, for large parts of last season and on a few occasions this season, Allegri has played 4-4-2.

I'm actually very excited to get either of Conte or Allegri because I'd really like to see us play with 2* up top again. I think it's prime time to go back to that.

Edited February 4, 2016 by CHOULO19
Corrected typing mistake

[nyikolajevics 2,690]

Conte's Juventus sucked ass in the Champions League. Allegri took charge and they got into the final.

Also, when Conte won the Serie A titles there wasn't other good teams in the league. Now Napoli, Fio, Inter are starting to get better, back then Juve was like PSG in France.

 

I would be glad if we appointed Allegri.

[Kieran. 6,317]

8 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Conte was actually the one who installed the 3-5-2 formation in Juve and his was indeed similar to the one Rodgers tried at Liverpool

Juve's current system though, is different than those two 3-5-2s. It's a lot more dynamic and fluid and can turn into 4-4-2 instantly with Evra dropping back to make a back four and either Assamoah or Pogba can play left midfield. And it's always a 4-4-2 in defense. 

Plus, for large parts of last season and on a few occasions this season, Allegri has played 4-4-2.

I'm actually very excited to get either of Conte or Allegri because I'd really like to see us play with up top again. I think it's prime time to go back to that.

You mean 2 up top correct? Cause I absolutely agree with you and this whole post.