Chelsea 0-2 Brentford

[HEREIAM 83]

We can lose every game as far as I’m concerned EXCEPT 1, next Tuesday away to Arsenal, if Lampard can’t get the players up for that then he should resign straight after 

[Gundalf 806]

1 minute ago, manpe said:

Lol why does the thread title say "Chelsea 1 - 2 Brentford"?

Wishful thinking

[ZAPHOD2319 4,822]

21 minutes ago, manpe said:

Lol why does the thread title say "Chelsea 1 - 2 Brentford"?

Results of depression can often be creating an alternate reality!! 😂

[cosmicway 1,333]

Those players we have are all sticks of wood dressed in football shirts.
They cannot move the ball into the opponent's area and if you cannot move the ball into the opponent's area then with or without a proper striker you won't score a goal.

The only exception yesterday was Kante who was given an attacking role.
You could see how he differed from the others and he also had a good effort at goal.
Unfortunately he is awful at passing the ball (always so) and could be of no more help.
The rest are sticks of wood.

Edited April 27, 2023 by cosmicway

[YorkshireBlue 3,285]

10 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Those players we have are all sticks of wood dressed in football shirts.
They cannot move the ball into the opponent's area and if you cannot move the ball into the opponent's area then with or without a proper striker you won't score a goal.

The only exception yesterday was Kante who was given an attacking role.
You could see how he differed from the others and he also had a good effort at goal.
Unfortunately he is awful at passing the ball (always so) and could be of no more help.
The rest are sticks of wood.

People need to get this idea that a number 9 will solve our problems out of Thier heads because I garentee you it won't, man city managed without a proper 9 for a number of years and won pretty much everything. A number 9 will help but it isn't the cure.

Edited April 27, 2023 by YorkshireBlue

[LAM09 7,067]

9 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

People need to get this idea that a number 9 will solve our problems out of Thier heads because I garentee you it won't, man city managed without a proper 9 for a number of years and won pretty much everything. A number 9 will help but it isn't the cure.

A number 9 might not solve the problem per se, but RELIABLE goal scorers will help drastically. 

Edited April 27, 2023 by LAM09

[cosmicway 1,333]

5 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

A number 9 might not solve the problem per se, but RELIABLE goal scorers will help drastically. 

Both statements are true.
If we had Diego of 2017 now and the rest as they are, things would be better.
But the absence of mobility is the bigger problem and with a free flowing team, I d' settle for Ba or Remy.

[LAM09 7,067]

3 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Both statements are true.
If we had Diego of 2017 now and the rest as they are, things would be better.
But the absence of mobility is the bigger problem and with a free flowing team, I d' settle for Ba or Remy.

Costa benefited massively from Cesc being in the team. If Costa was part of our current team, who would be able to find him?

Our transfer business has been more than questionable for years now. We keep looking years down the line rather than addressing the spine of our side.

[YorkshireBlue 3,285]

11 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Costa benefited massively from Cesc being in the team. If Costa was part of our current team, who would be able to find him?

Our transfer business has been more than questionable for years now. We keep looking years down the line rather than addressing the spine of our side.

I think it will help massively if we get a proper DM and move Enzo forward, your right a goal scorer will make things easier, but ATM our build up play is that bad even haaland would struggle. This has been in the making for years, all these defence minded managers we have had, has slowly taken all our attacking identity away. The last proper attack minded manager we had was sarri and it was like teaching donkeys how to walk on 2 legs.

Edited April 27, 2023 by YorkshireBlue

[LAM09 7,067]

2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

I think it will help massively if we get a proper DM and move Enzo forward, your right a goal scorer will make things easier, but ATM our build up play is that bad even haaland would struggle. This has been in the making for years, all these defence minded managers we have had, has slowly taken all our attacking identity away.

I'm not sure moving Enzo higher up the field would necessarily be the right call, as I have reservations about his passing ability; however, I concur with the rest. I had hoped Mount could have filled that AMF/creative role, but he just doesn't have that killer instinct.

The fact that Ziyech is the most creative attacker (passing-wise) we have is saying something. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,285]

10 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I'm not sure moving Enzo higher up the field would necessarily be the right call, as I have reservations about his passing ability; however, I concur with the rest. I had hoped Mount could have filled that AMF/creative role, but he just doesn't have that killer instinct.

The fact that Ziyech is the most creative attacker (passing-wise) we have is saying something. 

From what I have seen of Enzo so far his passing is brilliant, his problem ATM is there is 0 movement Infront of him, every time we get in the final 3rd it's like the lads are playing musical statues and the fucking musics stopped 🤣

Edited April 27, 2023 by YorkshireBlue

[Seymop 90]

Agree with many previous comments — a true striker would help but that’s no good unless you get the ball to him in the right place,at the right time !! We have a dismal record with — Lukaku,Morata,Werner,Torres,Auba etc etc. Whatever we think of them — we totally failed to utilise their strengths   We need to get the supply chain right and then get a striker and stick with him

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, DDA said:

You've made me feel alot better about  the situation... but  still fuck me this is ridiculous.. I'm feeling anxious.

What is concerning is I believe we have the worst record in the whole league across the last 14-15 games. Lose the last 6 or only pick up a point or two and that stretches to beyond a whole half season of form being the very worst in the league. This isn't just a bad run of form, it's a rot that has set in and needs the season to end to draw a line under it.

However, it is absolutely imperative that we start well next season because having experienced this season, I wouldn't be confident if we got caught in a similar position again of actually being able to fight our way out of it.

The funny thing is with a settled squad, a better manager, getting this squad really fit in the summer, no european football and we can add a goalscorer in the summer, I'll actually be disappointed if we couldn't make top 4 next season. 

[cosmicway 1,333]

28 minutes ago, Seymop said:

Agree with many previous comments — a true striker would help but that’s no good unless you get the ball to him in the right place,at the right time !! We have a dismal record with — Lukaku,Morata,Werner,Torres,Auba etc etc. Whatever we think of them — we totally failed to utilise their strengths   We need to get the supply chain right and then get a striker and stick with him

Wiith Torres, Morata we were doing well. Remember 6-0 against Arsenal inside 20 minutes ?
Things got progressively bad, then desperate after Hazard left and also after Willian, Giroud left.

[Superblue 6,372]

8 hours ago, DDA said:

You've made me feel alot better about  the situation... but  still fuck me this is ridiculous.. I'm feeling anxious.

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  9 hours ago, DDA said:

People acting asif we are 100% safe... we fucking ain't safe... we could actually go down.... one of those bottom 3 clubs go on a miracle run and we are fu ked.

If you're tracking this, results went well tonight.

With Southampton losing they can only match our points tally now at most with a 25 goal differential to make up so that is as good as one down. They also still play Forest so if they were to win all 5 games, it means Forest must drop 3 points and they themselves need 10 from 15.

Everton's loss means they also now need 12 points from a possible 15 to go above us as their goal difference is equally poor like Southampton. Note that they still have to play City, and they also have Leicester away next. Leicester themselves need 10 points from a possible 15 to go level with us so a draw in that could near enough be that.

Leeds also need 10 from 15 to overtake us and still have City and Newcastle to play in their next 3 games.

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40 minutes ago, Superblue said:

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  9 hours ago, DDA said:

People acting asif we are 100% safe... we fucking ain't safe... we could actually go down.... one of those bottom 3 clubs go on a miracle run and we are fu ked.

If you're tracking this, results went well tonight.

With Southampton losing they can only match our points tally now at most with a 25 goal differential to make up so that is as good as one down. They also still play Forest so if they were to win all 5 games, it means Forest must drop 3 points and they themselves need 10 from 15.

Everton's loss means they also now need 12 points from a possible 15 to go above us as their goal difference is equally poor like Southampton. Note that they still have to play City, and they also have Leicester away next. Leicester themselves need 10 points from a possible 15 to go level with us so a draw in that could near enough be that.

Leeds also need 10 from 15 to overtake us and still have City and Newcastle to play in their next 3 games.

So Leicester are the only team to worry about really! They genuinely have the players to pull of a shock.

[Superblue 6,372]

10 minutes ago, DDA said:

So Leicester are the only team to worry about really! They genuinely have the players to pull of a shock.

Leicester still have Liverpool and Newcastle themselves but I would agree they are probably the 'most' likely out of the lot to pull off a chain of results.

I think Forest's run in is the easiest though, although as mentioned earlier we play them at home and that is really our game to shut all of this talk off.

Without wanting to jinx things, I think Leeds and Everton will both struggle getting near our current points total.

[Reddish-Blue 2,513]

19 hours ago, LAM09 said:

I'm not sure moving Enzo higher up the field would necessarily be the right call, as I have reservations about his passing ability; however, I concur with the rest. I had hoped Mount could have filled that AMF/creative role, but he just doesn't have that killer instinct.

The fact that Ziyech is the most creative attacker (passing-wise) we have is saying something. 

If Ziyech is the most creative attacker, then serious questions need to be asked as to why the club thought it was a good idea to spend 35+ million on Sterling, 30+ on Madueke and 70+ million on Mudryk....then there was the 15+ million on 5 months of Felix who hasn't been able to create more than 1-2 goals in his time here. 

You don't just sign players for the sake of it, this was the chance to build a squad but now we're stuck with players no-one else wants and we're likely getting a manager who will have to work with what he's got as there is every chance FFP comes to bite us without UCL money next season. 

Compare us to Newcastle and they are absolutely flying....Bruno G was a class signing and their big name signing is actually looking the goods up front (Isak). 

[Special Juan 28,156]

Ziyech is probably the most limited footballer I have seen in the last 10 years

[cosmicway 1,333]

Another thing that perplexes me is this:
Let's accept as a fact that we 're no longer capable of taking on Real Madrid-City-Bayern, possibly PSG and some others.
Because those have found the cream of the planet and we did n't and it's difficult to match them.
But Fulham, Brighton and Brentford ???