Graham Potter Thread

[Hashishi 148]

The problem is I don't like the options out there. I don't want Poch or Enrique and Tuchel is never coming back. I think the owners would love a Mou 3.0 as it would provide the perfect shithousery and bending of the rules that Todd loves so much.

[Vegetable 830]

26 minutes ago, Hashishi said:

The problem is I don't like the options out there. I don't want Poch or Enrique and Tuchel is never coming back. I think the owners would love a Mou 3.0 as it would provide the perfect shithousery and bending of the rules that Todd loves so much.

Imagine Mou going with "that's life" when asked if we were shafted with a pen 😅

Anyway, as much as I'd love to think his motivational skill could do wonders with our current squad, the reasonability tells me his train is gone as well as TT's. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Vegetable

[Vesper 30,083]

Chelsea board firmly behind Potter

https://theathletic.com/4187294/2023/02/13/united-sale-qatar-var-potter/

Chelsea’s draw at West Ham United on Saturday means Graham Potter’s side have won just two of their last 13 Premier League matches, leaving them ninth in the table and 10 points off the top four.

The run of results, especially with so much money spent in the summer and January transfer windows, has led to some unrest among supporters. The Champions League is the last chance the club have for silverware this season.

But though some fans are questioning whether Potter is the right man to lead the club in the post-Roman Abramovich era, the club’s owners have no such concerns, reports David Ornstein, whose column returns next week.

 

Potter has struggled but is under no pressure (Photo: Julian Finney/Getty Images)

The feeling within the Chelsea hierarchy is that the former Brighton coach should be judged in years not months and they are confident they have one of the best managers in the game. They have a lot of changes still to make at the club and decided early on not to judge him on whether they qualify for the Champions League this season.

The leadership team feel Potter coming in mid-season with a squad that needed such a big overhaul meant success was always very unlikely in the short term and that there is still a lot of change to come to what is now a youthful team. It’s felt he has been very unlucky with injuries too.

The success of Mikel Arteta at Arsenal with a young squad after a mixed start is also seen as reassuring and the board feel that it will take some time for all the new faces to gel and understand Potter’s tactics and methods.

[lucio 5,418]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

are confident they have one of the best managers in the game. 

[Vytis33 1,261]

2 wins from 13 in the league.  With more time maybe we can win 3 or 4 in the future 
 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

Would not be so fast to judge. 

People may argue he is here 4, 5 months but with some context he just started like a week ago imo. 

Last season we were title contender and mid table after James and Chilwell injuries. He just got them back. Plus if you add others we have double digits in terms of injuries last couple of months. January transfer window was phenomenal and new players just started and all look very good. For years we are struggling in attack and there are positive signs Mudryk, Felix will change that. Whatever success we had like winning CL for example was mostly because of defense and we lost most important player in Rudiger. Again, Badiashile looks proper so we may fix that as well. 1 goal conceded in 4 games with him. We were crying for MF overhaul and Enzo just arrived. His 3 most likely partners are still all out. Patience guys. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by NikkiCFC

[Fernando 6,585]

I figured they using the Arteta example, which is the one I always used. 

Makes sense, hence why I been saying that this season is a free pass for him. 

So I don't bother much with results in this season as many here. 

Just as long we are not in relegation, but I do hope that by the end of the season there's some positives to take. 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Fernando

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

9 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I figured they using the Arteta example, which is the one I always used. 

Makes sense, hence why I been saying that this season is a free pass for him. 

So I don't bother much with results in this season as many here. 

Just as long we are not in relegation, but I do hope that by the end of the season there's some positives to take. 

I don't get the sentiment that this season is a free pass. There's still real possibility of getting top 4. Consider this, we're 10 point behind Newcastle right now. If we'd have won our last 2 games, and we played against opposition that should be beatable, then we'd be 6 points away with them coming to the Bridge. The gap isn't that large if you think about it. We had two golden opportunities to close that gap and we blew it. It seems like we're allergic to even think about getting top 4. I don't get it at all. We gave up in the middle of the season even though the gap isn't unsurmountable and we splashed 300m+ yet there's no urgency, no pressure, no nothing. Aren't the shirt sponsorship up at the end of the season ? I've read before that playing Champions League and not playing Champions League has significant bearing when it comes to size of the shirt sponsorship deal we can get. The whole situation doesn't make sense to me unless money really is no issue for the new owners.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

Can we stop using Arteta as a an example of why we should give a midtable manager more time? Arteta has worked with Guardiola and plenty of silverware as assistant manager under his belt plus a respectable playing career. However, as an Arsenal coach he has won just the Anthony Taylor FA cup so far and looks on course to squander an 8 point lead. If they are still top after their second City game, then fair game but till then questions marks remain. If the board have some valuable insight in why GP is one of the best then we have no other choice than trusting them but the rationalisations we get from journalists supposedly itk are flimsy at best.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Magic Lamps

[Vegetable 830]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

Would not be so fast to judge. 

"Fast" is really unfortunate word here. Anyway, I don't really buy into this logic. The good leader and manager shows quality when in pickle and shows how he can handle injuries and regions where team lacks quality and does with what he has. Sarri never made any excuses and didn't even actually care who is available and who is coming - he did his best with what he had got. 

With fully fit first team and yet another round of transfers beyond current 600 million, either You or me could go there and get results. Still, GP doesn't somehow.

The sheer amount of excuses that need to be made to defend him show how unfit for the job he is. 

[Fernando 6,585]

Two of Chelsea's January arrivals - Mykhaylo Mudryk and Noni Madueke - were influential going forward, but struggled to track back and Rice cited that as an area where West Ham were able to enjoy some success.

He said: "With the team they put out they started really sharply, really quickly. They had some really, really good players on show. It took us a little while to get going and adapt to their system.

"But once we found out their weakness, getting the ball down the sides of them and realised their wingers weren’t really tracking back. We managed to get the goal from that and exploit that. The last 20 minutes was there for us and we could have nicked it."

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/declan-rice-comments-joao-felix-29195651

Interesting comments by Rice...

[Hashishi 148]

40 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Can we stop using Arteta as a an example of why we should give a midtable manager more time? Arteta has worked with Guardiola and plenty of silverware as assistant manager under his belt plus a respectable playing career. However, as an Arsenal coach he has won just the Anthony Taylor FA cup so far and looks on course to squander an 8 point lead. If they are still top after their second City game, then fair game but till then questions marks remain. If the board have some valuable insight in why GP is one of the best then we have no other choice than trusting them but the rationalisations we get from journalists supposedly itk are flimsy at best.

Arteta trained under Wenger as well who went toe to toe with ferguson for a decade with less resources. If he wins the league this year, then arteta is going to be the hottest new property on the block.

I don't get the comparison, Potter has done nothing notable in his playing career or his managing career, apart from his stint in the Swedish league.