Chelsea Transfers

[Hashishi 148]

31 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

It’s decisions like that that tends to lead to zero sympathy when it leads to managers getting sacked. 
 

Neither can play in the pivot thankfully 

Enter Drinkwater. 

[Special Juan 28,187]

Dont worry about striker alternatives to Haaland, we are going to get him with a huge bid, the club knows it's this window or nothing.

 

[Styl1994 188]

17 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Dont worry about striker alternatives to Haaland, we are going to get him with a huge bid, the club knows it's this window or nothing.

 

Source Special Juan confidents 

 

I will take it 

[Pizy 18,985]

1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

Dont worry about striker alternatives to Haaland, we are going to get him with a huge bid, the club knows it's this window or nothing.

 

Finding it less and less likely now. Dortmund would probably kill their chance at a CL spot if they sold he and Sancho both.

[Styl1994 188]

21 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Finding it less and less likely now. Dortmund would probably kill their chance at a CL spot if they sold he and Sancho both.

Dortmund were going to sell Sancho Chelsea knew this 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,091]

12 hours ago, Jas said:

Err, is it a good thing if the value goes up for an unwanted player? That would just mean less clubs can afford in signing him.

This sounds like a confusion of value with price. The scenario being discussed is of a player performing well on the international stage so that his value increases in the eyes of potential buyers. This may, or may not, lead to an increase in his price. It may simply mean that buyers who were not previously prepared to meet the demands of the player and of the selling club are now willing to do so.

An increased value can only help a player seeking to move and his club if they are seeking to sell.

Edited July 3, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

[Pizy 18,985]

58 minutes ago, Styl1994 said:

Dortmund were going to sell Sancho Chelsea knew this 

Yes, and because of that they probably know that Haaland ain’t happening now. Otherwise we’d probably hear about discussions with his agent or some sort of indication that things are moving. Reports a few days ago said that we weren’t even in contact with him.

If I had to bet the club is probably working on backup plans right now for a stopgap until next summer. Whether that’s a striker or a midfielder of some sort.

[Styl1994 188]

4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Yes, and because of that they probably know that Haaland ain’t happening now. Otherwise we’d probably hear about discussions with his agent or some sort of indication that things are moving. Reports a few days ago said that we weren’t even in contact with him.

If I had to bet the club is probably working on backup plans right now for a stopgap until next summer. Whether that’s a striker or a midfielder of some sort.

You just speculating nobody knows anything 

[Jase 43,479]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

This sounds like a confusion of value with price. The scenario being discussed is of a player performing well on the international stage so that his value increases in the eyes of potential buyers. This may, or may not, lead to an increase in his price. It may simply mean that buyers who were not previously prepared to meet the demands of the player and of the selling club are now willing to do so.

An increased value can only help a player seeking to move and his club if they are seeking to sell.

Hashishi's subsequent post then was referring to the price of the player.

And even if it's the performance of a player, there's this...

12 hours ago, Jas said:

I don't see how playing 1-2 games is gonna make a difference now. It's not as if the Italian clubs do not know him by this point.

 

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, Styl1994 said:

You just speculating

Isn't that what everyone seems to be doing every day here, even when there's been nothing?

What seems clear is that Dortmund have made it clear that they won't sell Haaland this summer. Unless we throw some crazy money in to try and convince them, highly doubt they will move away from their stance. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,091]

19 minutes ago, Jas said:

Hashishi's subsequent post then was referring to the price of the player.

And even if it's the performance of a player, there's this...

 

Your comment about one or two games not making a difference is 100% correct. Your comment that a player's value being increased can damage the chances of his being transferred is not however. It is to that comment which I replied.

Edited July 3, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Your comment that a player's value being increased can damage the chances of his being transferred is not however.

In general, it's not.

But in our case, it could be because we want to sell the deadwoods and say if their price goes up, then it's less likely that clubs will be able to afford them, especially during this pandemic. 

[OhForAGreavsie 6,091]

22 minutes ago, Jas said:

In general, it's not.

But in our case, it could be because we want to sell the deadwoods and say if their price goes up, then it's less likely that clubs will be able to afford them, especially during this pandemic. 

You need to think harder about this. You have it completely wrong. Focus on the difference between a price and a value. Any seller can place any price on any item. That item's value is not determined by its price however. Rather it is determined by what buyers are prepared to pay for it. When an item's value increases in the eyes of the buyer that is ALWAYS a good thing for the seller(s).

Chelsea want to sell Emerson's registration for a transfer fee while the player wants to sell his services for a salary. If at least one club is prepared to pay more today to Chelsea, to Emerson or to both, than they were willing to pay yesterday, then that is only a good thing for the sellers.

Edited July 3, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

[avrobsws 29]

Are we serious ? We are considering this Lewis as an alternative to Haland ? Tuchel has gone nuts if this is true or gambling big time and putting his ass on the line.

 

 

[Jase 43,479]

24 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

You need to think harder about this. You have it completely wrong. Focus on the difference between a price and a value. Any seller can place any price on any item. That item's value is not determined by its price however. Rather it is determined by what buyers are prepared to pay for it. When an item's value increases in the eyes of the buyer that is ALWAYS a good thing for the seller(s).

Chelsea want to sell Emerson's registration for a transfer fee while the player wants to sell his services for a salary. If at least one club is prepared to pay more today to Chelsea, to Emerson or to both, than they were willing to pay yesterday, then that is only a good thing for the sellers.

But my point is an increase in price on a deadwood is not good in the current circumstances. If a club want to suddenly fork out say 30 million for Emerson, then great! But in reality, we know that's not going to happen because we're in a pandemic, a lot of clubs are trying to save money. At the end of the day, it comes to down whether clubs can match the asking price of the club for the player. If not, they'll just move onto the next target.

[Pizy 18,985]

I have a sneaking suspicion that we will be linked with and sign a striker out of the blue that nobody was really thinking or speculating about. Who that is I have no clue.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,091]

17 minutes ago, Jas said:

But my point is an increase in price on a deadwood is not good in the current circumstances. If a club want to suddenly fork out say 30 million for Emerson, then great! But in reality, we know that's not going to happen because we're in a pandemic, a lot of clubs are trying to save money. At the end of the day, it comes to down whether clubs can match the asking price of the club for the player. If not, they'll just move onto the next target.

You are talking about two entirely different things here. You and I are in complete agreement that Emerson's value is not going to increase as a result of one or two appearances at the Euros. I expect that everyone here agrees with us about that reality. When we are considering the theoretical possibility that his value TO POTENTIAL BUYERS increases however, that only helps Chelsea. There is no scenario under which this situation would be bad for Chelsea or the player. Remember it is the situation where Emerson's value,  VALUE not price, increases that we have been discussing.

Chelsea can name any price they want but a deal can only be reached when Chelsea and a potential buyer agree on a fee. Under all circumstances if the buyer is prepared to pay more today than they were prepared to pay yesterday that makes it easier for Chelsea to find such an agreement. THE INCREASED VALUE HELPS Chelsea IT NEVER HURTS THEM.

Edited July 3, 2021 by OhForAGreavsie

[Vesper 30,270]

24 minutes ago, avrobsws said:

Are we serious ? We are considering this Lewis as an alternative to Haland ? Tuchel has gone nuts if this is true or gambling big time and putting his ass on the line.

 

 

DCL is a great option, IF he comes at a fair price, which is doubtful (btw, it is Lewin, not Lewis)

[avrobsws 29]

7 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I have a sneaking suspicion that we will be linked with and sign a striker out of the blue that nobody was really thinking or speculating about. Who that is I have no clue.

Kylian Mbappe 

[avrobsws 29]

3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

DCL is a great option, IF he comes at a fair price, which is doubtful (btw, it is Lewin, not Lewis)

Lewin, thanks to Google keyboard 😆 He is now where near to to Haaland.

Edited July 3, 2021 by avrobsws