Chelsea Transfers

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58 minutes ago, Pizy said:

We could potentially luck out in that United just renewed Cavani as sort of a short term mentor for Greenwood who they view as the eventual #9

If United are serious about challenging City for the title, then I'm not sure how realistic is it for them to rely on a 34-year-old and 19-year-old to spearhead that challenge. Given Kane's age, he might serve as perfect foil for those two and could be there long enough for Greenwood to gain experience and eventually take the #9 role. 

[chippy 342]

Fingers and toes crossed this Lukaku rumour is BS. 

We are not winning the title with that llump of a flat track bully leading the llne. Seriously, can you imagine the likes of City or Liverpool having that kind of player in their team? Not a chance in hell!

He's alright in shit leagues like Seri A and clubs like Everton. Not for Chelsea!!!

[King Kante 1,643]

2 hours ago, Mário César said:

Break the bank for Lukaku. We have no choice. Besides, Inter has financial problems.

 

Remember this game?

Chelsea was having problems with WBA defense. We're strulling and a equalize is written but look what happened. This is what top strikes can do. Win games from nowhere.

This is a prime example of why in the PL you need some big physical men playing in the forward positions. Out problem is that we are a complete bunch of lightweights these days. Absolute minimum we need is a physical CM and a physical CF (who can run, Giroud can't unfortunately.)

2 hours ago, Mário César said:

If i gives 4 good years is a bad business?

Have you forgotten Lukaku's first touch? It is still dire, it is just that he is playing in a slow ass league these days that he gets away with it. If he came here Tommy Boy would have a stroke with him playing up front. 

As for Kane, not going to happen boys and girls, even if Levy agrees to sell, he doesn't fit our age profile and he has a dodgy ankle. There is no guarantee you would get more than three years out of him in the PL, especially with how we get reffed. 

[R2D2 368]

You know were truly desperate when people start saying break the bank for Lukacow.

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Just now, King Kante said:

This is a prime example of why in the PL you need some big physical men playing in the forward positions. Out problem is that we are a complete bunch of lightweights these days. Absolute minimum we need is a physical CM and a physical CF (who can run, Giroud can't unfortunately.)

I agree that we need to be physically stronger in the forward areas but do we really need big physical men? Liverpool and Man City have shown that it's not compulsory at all. Sometimes I feel like we're still stuck with this old mindset that we need a big physical striker upfront to thrive, to play in a style that revolves around strikers like that. It's little wonder why the only strikers to have succeeded for us in the last 15 years or so are basically strikers in that mould - Drogba and Costa.

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38 minutes ago, Jas said:

Ivan Toney? Is this a serious suggestion or a sign of desperation?

I don't think the price tag is the problem with Werner and Havertz. Don't recall anyone using their price tag to beat them with, even though Havertz is our most expensive signing. We just need to improve them and get more consistency out of them. 

Serious suggestion. Going into next season with no recognisable ST is going to end in disaster. I for one am not willing to take the chance on Havertz and Werner regaining form when neither of which have showed any signs they can handle the physicality and pace of the league consistently. 

We aren't getting Kane or Haaland. I think we need to come back to earth and make that abundantly clear. Lukaku is a disaster waiting to happen. We all know it.  Then there are Bundelisga fans are warning us to avoid Andre Silva. We may as well go for someone with relatively low risk who could potentially have some resale value. 

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2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Serious suggestion. Going into next season with no recognisable ST is going to end in disaster. I for one am not willing to take the chance on Havertz and Werner regaining form when neither of which have showed any signs they can handle the physicality and pace of the league consistently. 

We aren't getting Kane or Haaland. I think we need to come back to earth and make that abundantly clear. Lukaku is a disaster waiting to happen. We all know it.  Then there are Bundelisga fans are warning us to avoid Andre Silva. We may as well go for someone with relatively low risk who could potentially have some resale value. 

I get the part about needing a recognized striker but Ivan Toney? Low cost or not, what makes you believe/think that he can make the step up from League One or Championship to the top end of the Premier League? This season is only his first season in the Championship and before this, he was playing at the lower level. 

[chippy 342]

Yes, it would be a disaster waiting to happen and another very expensive panic buy on the Kepa scale. 

Utd fans couldn't wait to see the back of him. Tells you everything that fans of a very ordinary Utd team didn't think he was good enough for them.

[chippy 342]

If we can't sign a high quality striker then we should until we can get one and spend the money on other positions in the team instead. Pointless blowing tens of million on an average striker just because we need another striker.

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[Pizy 18,877]

There really isn’t even anyone to potentially panic buy at striker. The options are so thin that if we strike out on Haaland or Kane the drop off to anyone else is colossal. We’d then probably have to look at past it old guys from lesser leagues as a 1 season rental. An Edin Dzeko or something.

Or I guess we could go the no striker route and get some goal scoring midfielder as a last resort. 

[King Kante 1,643]

1 hour ago, Jas said:

I agree that we need to be physically stronger in the forward areas but do we really need big physical men? Liverpool and Man City have shown that it's not compulsory at all. Sometimes I feel like we're still stuck with this old mindset that we need a big physical striker upfront to thrive, to play in a style that revolves around strikers like that. It's little wonder why the only strikers to have succeeded for us in the last 15 years or so are basically strikers in that mould - Drogba and Costa.

But the Dippers and City have players like: Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Rodri, Fernandinho, KDB (ok athletically he isn't the greatest) Kun (small but physical, even if a bit old/slow now). I mean we do not have many players in any of the CM/AM/CF areas that can match any of those players physically/athletically. Giroud can strength wise, but athletically he is done, Kante athletically matches them or beats them, but his strength/height is disadvantaged. 

Edited May 17, 2021 by King Kante

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

48 minutes ago, chippy said:

If we can't sign a high quality striker then we should until we can get one and spend the money on other positions in the team instead. Pointless blowing tens of million on an average striker just because we need another striker.

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41 minutes ago, Pizy said:

There really isn’t even anyone to potentially panic buy at striker. The options are so thin that if we strike out on Haaland or Kane the drop off to anyone else is colossal. We’d then probably have to look at past it old guys from lesser leagues as a 1 season rental. An Edin Dzeko or something.

Or I guess we could go the no striker route and get some goal scoring midfielder as a last resort. 

I am leaning towards the same. Better buy no one than panic buy someone too expensive. Replacing Ziyech with a winger who scores goals like Sancho instead might be a smarter move.

Anyway, I think we do need to buy a backup striker if we can not get a proper no.9 for the first XI.

a) We can either take a punt with someone young ike Vlahovic or Patson Daka (insanely pacey freak athlete and averages a goal every 72 mins)

or

b) go for someone more experienced and reasonably priced like Gerard Moreno who is a deadly finisher with decent all round game.

Edited May 17, 2021 by Magic Lamps

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8 minutes ago, King Kante said:

But the Dippers and City have players like: Henderson, Fabinho, Wijnaldum, Rodri, Fernandinho, KDB (ok athletically he isn't the greatest) Kun (small but physical, even if a bit old/slow now). I mean we do not have many players in any of the CM/AM/CF areas that can match any of those players physically/athletically. Giroud can strength wise, but athletically he is done, Kante athletically matches them or beats them, but his strength/height is disadvantaged. 

I don't disagree with that notion but are we talking in the context of getting goals or what? Because you first mentioned the attacking areas and you now listed a bunch of midfielders.

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34 minutes ago, Pizy said:

There really isn’t even anyone to potentially panic buy at striker. The options are so thin that if we strike out on Haaland or Kane the drop off to anyone else is colossal. We’d then probably have to look at past it old guys from lesser leagues as a 1 season rental. An Edin Dzeko or something.

Or I guess we could go the no striker route and get some goal scoring midfielder as a last resort. 

Even then, going into the season with just TWO strikers is so risky, especially when you consider both of them will likely start a lot - and likely together - as well as form, potential injuries, suspensions etc. 

[Pizy 18,877]

33 minutes ago, Jas said:

Even then, going into the season with just TWO strikers is so risky, especially when you consider both of them will likely start a lot - and likely together - as well as form, potential injuries, suspensions etc. 

Only thing that makes me slightly at ease is that TT has made it abundantly clear with his team selections that he wants a striker. So surely the club will get him someone. Otherwise I’d be very worried about us having another mediocre season like this current one.