Chelsea Transfers

[YorkshireBlue 3,268]

From what I read we won’t have delap for the CWC something about englands u21s? 
 

and also just seen the last time he played under maresca he scored 23 goals in 20 games 

Edited May 29 by YorkshireBlue

[MoroccanBlue 5,379]

11 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said:

From what I read we won’t have delap for the CWC something about englands u21s? 
 

and also just seen the last time he played under maresca he scored 23 goals in 20 games 

Can’t the club veto him going to international duty? 

[YorkshireBlue 3,268]

10 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Can’t the club veto him going to international duty? 

Probably, not sure, suppose it depends where he wants to play, England u21s or Chelsea for the CWC, although he wouldn’t start I don’t imagine anyways 

[King Kante 1,643]

51 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

I too was thinking about that 'sideways/backwards' comment from Palmer. At the time I wondered if he had referred to his own decision making, but he clearly is talking about the team and it's tactics. Whether Maresca explicitly tells players to not be more direct and not use their inventiveness, is a separate matter.

Maresca is a Pep acolyte so I imagine he does micromanage the players. There was a clear divide in our season where we played with some semblance of pattern but where still playing aspects of counter attack like Poch's team (Aug-Oct) and full Maresca ball (Nov-onwards.) 

Additionally, be a acolyte I imagine he essentially copies his mentor and Pep is known to explicitly dictate what players do unless their name is Messi. 

Say you say, Palmer's quote was indeed loaded. I can imagine he isn't happy at finding himself under another manager who is the knock off version of the one that sold him for £40m because he is too much of a maverick/off the cuff player. 

42 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

30M is a bargain in this day and age, he has time to grow and develop which we know the club are looking for, we can't get away from that, he's the perfect age for what the club want and if he hits the ground running it's a complete win win situation. I just like his raw bullish ways that we have seen this season, his off the ball movement is really good and he's a fucking nightmare to mark as proven when he ragged our backline about at Portman Road.

Absolutely agree. Like you, we need to: 

a) be realistic about what type of players we are going to sign. 

b) like players who have a bullishness.

c) recognise Delap is a project but appreciate he showed a lot considering the side he was playing in last season. 

d) Is a Bargain.

What is interesting is that we were completely split on Lukaku coming back. Me being probably the most against on here, and you being pretty pro. Shows how people can see different things in football but equally agree on other things within the game. 

29 minutes ago, Pizy said:

What do you guys think of going for Mbuemo? Much like Delapmhes got that perfect combo of pace and power and is a total bitch to play against as we’ve seen firsthand several times. He’s most effective on the right hand side as well so can easily play together with Delap/Jackson and with Palmer feeding him.

I’d take him in a heartbeat. Goals, creativity, pace, power, PL proven, and available for a decent price. 

For me he is a Grealish/Zaha in that he is one of those players that is great for a smaller team but gets a bit lost in a bigger team to pin down his exact role. 

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36 minutes ago, Pizy said:

What do you guys think of going for Mbuemo? Much like Delapmhes got that perfect combo of pace and power and is a total bitch to play against as we’ve seen firsthand several times. He’s most effective on the right hand side as well so can easily play together with Delap/Jackson and with Palmer feeding him.

I’d take him in a heartbeat. Goals, creativity, pace, power, PL proven, and available for a decent price. 

I think Mbeumo at the price mentioned 50m is a great pickup. But we need someone for the left side first since Palmer Madueke and Estevao all play on the right 

Morgan Rogers would be great 

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9 minutes ago, King Kante said:

 

For me he is a Grealish/Zaha in that he is one of those players that is great for a smaller team but gets a bit lost in a bigger team to pin down his exact role. 

I disagree. I think Mbeumo is gonna come off for a big team too. His finishing and numbers were better than most wide forwards except Salah this season. Liverpool Arsenal and City don’t seem to be interested in going for a winger so the competition is Man United and Newcastle. This is a good pickup if we offload Madueke 

[Pizy 18,877]

12 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Maresca is a Pep acolyte so I imagine he does micromanage the players. There was a clear divide in our season where we played with some semblance of pattern but where still playing aspects of counter attack like Poch's team (Aug-Oct) and full Maresca ball (Nov-onwards.) 

Additionally, be a acolyte I imagine he essentially copies his mentor and Pep is known to explicitly dictate what players do unless their name is Messi. 

Say you say, Palmer's quote was indeed loaded. I can imagine he isn't happy at finding himself under another manager who is the knock off version of the one that sold him for £40m because he is too much of a maverick/off the cuff player. 

Absolutely agree. Like you, we need to: 

a) be realistic about what type of players we are going to sign. 

b) like players who have a bullishness.

c) recognise Delap is a project but appreciate he showed a lot considering the side he was playing in last season. 

d) Is a Bargain.

What is interesting is that we were completely split on Lukaku coming back. Me being probably the most against on here, and you being pretty pro. Shows how people can see different things in football but equally agree on other things within the game. 

For me he is a Grealish/Zaha in that he is one of those players that is great for a smaller team but gets a bit lost in a bigger team to pin down his exact role. 

I think Grealish and Zaha both moved to the wrong teams at the wrong time. I still maintain that both could’ve been big successes in different situations. Mbuemo is 25 now so I think he’d transition well to a bigger club. He’s not a kid anymore who would have the weight and expectation of having to be a superstar like those players were.

[Vytis33 1,264]

 

[Pizy 18,877]

Sesko looks extremely talented and could become great at Arse but I’d actually be pretty relieved if they sign him instead of Gyokeres. Sesko looks to me to be more of a risk whereas Gyokeres feels like he’d seamlessly slot in to a Arse/Chelsea/Liverpool and hit the ground running.

If Arse do indeed go for Sesko though I wonder where that leaves Gyokeres in terms of options. The usual big boys Madrid, Barca, and Bayern don’t need a #9. The big Italian sides are usually broke. City have Haaland.

Suppose there’s an outside chance United pull a Casemiro/Di Maria/Varane and massively shell out for a superstar when nobody expected it. But that’s exactly what got them into the mess they’re in now. Handing players monster wages.

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Where does that leave Gyokeres I wonder? No word on him. Decent fee too 

[Vesper 30,120]

6 hours ago, Fernando said:

Need now the new World Cup of clubs, which looks very nice. 

And the newly revived FIFA Intercontinental Cup.

The only major post WWII European-wide club trophies we cannot get are the old defunct Intertoto Cup and the old defunct Inter-Cities Fairs Cup.

If you really want to get into the weeds in terms of 'global club champions' then there were 3 other tournaments contested post WWII. All 3 are the subjects of much controversy, especial in Brasil, but also (in terms of the Small World Cup) with Real Madrid, Barca, and the Colombian side Millonarios (all 3, plus the Brasilian winners claim world clup titles).

1. Copa Rio (held twice, 1951 and 1952, with Palmeiras in 1951 and Fluminense in 1952 winning it)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Rio_(international_tournament)

2. Torneio Octogonal Rivadavia Correa Meyer (held once, 1953, won by Vasco da Gama)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torneio_Octogonal_Rivadavia_Correa_Meyer

3. The Small World Cup

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Club_World_Cup

The Small World Cup (Spanish: Pequeña Copa del Mundo) was a football tournament held in Venezuela between 1952 and 1975 (with some journalists considering 1952–57 the period of greatest relevance, and the second period that took place between 1963 and 1975 as of minor relevance).

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There were 2 even more obscure post WWII attempts at a world club championship:

1. The (mainly 1953 and 1954 are of import, but there were 4 other later editions: 1969, 1970, 1971, and 1978) Montevideo Cup

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Montevideo

And finally....

2. The Taça Charles Miller, held in 1955 in Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo

https://www.rsssf.org/tablesc/charlesmiller55.html

 

 

 

[Vesper 30,120]

7 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Wydad Casablanca 

I only saw the Esperance links to him

Btw, I  REALLY wanted Raja Casablanca to beat Bayern in the 2013 FIFA World Club Cup final!

Would have helped remove the disgrace of our shameful 2012 FWCC final defeat to Corinthians, grrrrr.

Edited May 29 by Vesper

[TheHulk 2,424]

Fuck Joao Pedro.

[mkh 575]

Chelsea were working on both Delap and Ekitike, as first revealed here. 

Delap is now done but Ekitike won’t be done this week barring a major shock.

@MaxLondonsFirst

 

Edited May 29 by mkh

[Mário César 1,249]

if we spend 84M pounds on ekitike jesus christ

why not spend that money trying to buy gyo? I cant understand