JFKvsNixon 59 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 3 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Works both ways though. Lets be realistic, they know we are trying to offload Rom cause he’s on massive wages and doesn’t want to be here - hence why their lowballing us. They also know we need to start offloading players irrespective because of the squad size. I get the club put a clause in for Rom but barring a Conte melt down/ultimatum - which I get he is who he is but 7 weeks into his job, he’s not even that stupid - theres not too much we can do. I think we should be saying if they offer between £30-35m for Lukaku… even with no swap deal on the table, that we will look to accept it on the basis that they accept a £50-60m bid in a separate deal for Oshimen. Then do both deals at the same time but separately as we were doing with Gallagher and whats his face. And if they fuck about just pull the plug on the Lukaku deal and let him rot. I know its a bit of fucking about but if we really want Oshimen and they really want Lukaku - be hard with them. Still think offloading the likes of Kepa, Chalobah, Broja, Ugochuwku & various others on loan/permanents would also give us a better footing too to make this deal as the need and desperation to trim a bloated squad disappears. I mean if we really want VO and Napoli really want RL, then we have to try make that happen. Napoli paid over €60 million for Oshimen, they'll want to make a profit on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 The fact that Gallagher has been in Madrid for days and we still don’t have resolution makes me worried about the deal. 🫤 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,988 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 52 minutes ago, Tomo said: I disagree. He created one big chance his entire time here (for context Lewis Hall created more at Old Trafford alone) and in 15 of 20 games he registered 0.00 xA and < 0.5 xG. Then there's his off the ball workrate which is next to non existent and that is a huge problem in a system like Maresca's, especially when we already have to find a way to somewhat compensate for Nkunku and Palmer off the ball (who look like Kante and Essien workrate wise compared to Felix). I don't have any specific dislike for the guy, unless I've missed something he conducted himself perfectly fine while he was here and quite evidently grew to love the club but I don't think even the idea of him would mesh well with the current profiles we have, let alone the flattered to decieve version you get with him 9 times out of 10. 1 chance created? You dont actually believe that tripe do you? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 (edited) 59 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: The 1 big chance created are a joke right? Go look at his Chelsea highlights, the man literally drags 2 and 3 defenders and midfielders to him, the space he used to create for other players was an absolute joke, throw in he played for potters Chelsea the lowest scoring team in the last 3 years, having a front attack of Jackson Felix nkunku neto Or Guiu Felix Palmer. Nkunku/Neto Is an absolute joke of a forward line up, and has creativity skill and flair in abundance. I don't fully agree with @Tomo on Felix, but the lack of work rate in Felix's game is hardly debatable. And I was expecting Cole to be given a freer role with Neto joining. It's definitely an improvement from last season though. I was one of the most vocal about the quality of our wingers, both starters as well as options. I don't think Mudryk is even comparable to Felix in all honesty: one is an elite footballer (even if never fulfilling his original promise). Edited August 12, 2024 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,308 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 8 hours ago, Tomo said: That's the equivalent of being the most friendly salt water crocodile. Happy croc, happy João Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,109 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 39 minutes ago, JFKvsNixon said: Napoli paid over €60 million for Oshimen, they'll want to make a profit on him. We all want things we can't have! Unlucky for them. Quite a mess they've got themselves into there. €70m + €10m in add ons they paid and they are entirely at fault for the entire situation with no one to blame but themselves. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,823 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,889 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 2 hours ago, DDA said: Felix played well in his time here. What makes you so against him playing for us? He huffs and puffs a lot. Wee moments. Flashes of brilliance of what he could do but he doesn’t have anywhere near enough consistency, particularly for a supposed elite level attacking player aged 24. And which position would he play here and ahead of who? He isn’t really a proper left winger as such, lacking the athleticism and pace modern day wingers have and he isn’t a better option than Nkunku as a 10. He certainly isn’t a striker either. Seems like a proper luxury player. Will do the odd thing or two which you go wow but over 38 games and when it really matters, just going to be a passenger. 1 hour ago, Tomo said: He created one big chance his entire time here (for context Lewis Hall created more at Old Trafford alone) and in 15 of 20 games he registered 0.00 xA and < 0.5 xG. Then there's his off the ball workrate which is next to non existent and that is a huge problem in a system like Maresca's, especially when we already have to find a way to somewhat compensate for Nkunku and Palmer off the ball (who look like Kante and Essien workrate wise compared to Felix). Given Clearlake’s insistence on a data led approach it is surprising if those stats are what he put out. Genuinely think its this desperation to ensure we sell Gallagher so now we are open to taking anybody from Atletico who they don’t want to make sure the deal goes through… Like on a footballing point of view, makes no to little sense (although what does now with this mob running things?). You’re bang on about the off the ball stuff. I mean this is probably one of the biggest reasons as to why he was a none starter for Pochettino. Irrespective of this perceived ability. If Maresca wants a high press - his type of profile is out of the question. I mean why do people think he has struggled and fallen out with Simeone at Atletico also? Not to mention his actual position in a team, in the past 3 seasons he has been used as a 10, a wide left, a second striker, player up front… I guess people like the idea of him because he has shown little snippets of ability in certain moments but for someone aged 24, who is supposed to be someone who could an “elite level attacking player” should it not be a lot more clear and obvious what position he would play in a team? And what sort of player he actually is? Vegetable, Magic Lamps and OhForAGreavsie 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 I badly want to laugh hysterically at Liverpool for missing out on their top target mere days before the season starts but we have our own business that can fall through. 😅😅😅 But goddamn, people bitch and moan about our transfer dealings. Look at Liverpool! Don’t think they’ve signed a single player, have they? Their fans are in total meltdown. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkh 627 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 BREAKING: Juventus have proposed a one-year LOAN offer to Chelsea for Raheem Sterling #Juve #CFC (via @mirkocalemme🌕) OhForAGreavsie, Vesper, DH1988 and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,300 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 24 minutes ago, Pizy said: I badly want to laugh hysterically at Liverpool for missing out on their top target mere days before the season starts but we have our own business that can fall through. 😅😅😅 But goddamn, people bitch and moan about our transfer dealings. Look at Liverpool! Don’t think they’ve signed a single player, have they? Their fans are in total meltdown. They signed a youngster of us, I only know because the lad I work with is a pool fan and hasn't stfu about it 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 Wonder if Barca will let Vitor Roque (19) leave. Everton have shown interest apparently. He was looking slightly short of Endrik promise in Brazil until he had a bad ankle injury, and then moved to Barca before getting back to full form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,994 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 Really seems as if Felix was going to happen any moment after it all popped off last night. Yet nothing today at all. But more concerning is that there has been no Gallagher update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,510 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 Just now, Pizy said: Really seems as if Felix was going to happen any moment after it all popped off last night. Yet nothing today at all. But more concerning is that there has been no Gallagher update. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,878 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 51 minutes ago, mkh said: BREAKING: Juventus have proposed a one-year LOAN offer to Chelsea for Raheem Sterling #Juve #CFC (via @mirkocalemme🌕) Please yes mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mário César 1,342 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 We will offer 65meuros for felix loool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,745 Posted August 12, 2024 Share Posted August 12, 2024 Getting fleeced for an average player. Samu at least had massive potential. Strike, Nero and TheHulk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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