Chelsea Transfers

[cosmicway 1,333]

It's crazy money going around.
Do you realize Drinkwater costed us 30 million.
With 30 million I could buy the entire island I 'm in now plus the ships in the harbour.

I stopped and pondered about it for a while.
My frame of reference is the Greek market since I know the details.
In the early sixties the record transfer was 1,100,000 drachmas equal to 13,000 sterling as the rate of exchange was back then.
The player in question was Takis Loukanidis, a Franz Beckenbauer type of midfielder who made history.
With 1,100,000 drachmas my dad could buy 5 houses in a decent neighbourhood. Perhaps not in a neighbourhood like Belgravia but not in an underdeveloped-slum area either - a decent neighbourhood.
Nowadays 13,000 sterling is of course nothing in the football market.
5 million euros or more would be something to talk about with for Greece's football market.
But for the five houses I was talking about I think 300,000 is good enough - make it 500,000 if you like.
So the football money is crazy.

But it's not only for Greece this kind of comparison.
Three-four years ago I saw in the Daily Mail a former royal palace that was out for sale.
Impressive, with gardens etc.
The price ? A mere 7 million quid.


 

[Special Juan 28,187]

Nizaar Kinsella is reporting that Gallagher has bene told he is surplus to requirements and is going to be leaving.

WHU want him

[Mhsc 1,109]

38 minutes ago, Pizy said:

I’ve now watched 3-4 Chelsea fan channels’ reactions to the potential Olise signing and you would swear we are about to sign Mbappe or a Vini Jr. They’re all acting like Olise is world class. 

I just simply don’t see it. He’s a very nice player for a small club but I’m not convinced he’s a top player. I’d be very underwhelmed if we get him rather than Cherki or Kudus. Especially if Kudus ends up at Arse or Liverpool instead.

He is no where near the level of Vini Jr or Mbappe and I've not seen anyone talking like that, but I've made a couple of posts on here about why I am overall positive about the move. He is an assist machine and look at his defensive quality, which apparently no one cares about here but you just KNOW Poch does, he is also pretty rapid. I honestly think with his work ethic and his wizard left foot he would become fan favourite here. I also think he would be first choice set piece taker by quite a way, unless any of the new boys have talents I'm unaware of (possible). My only concern is his injury and whether now is the right moment. I wonder if Gallagher is on his way out if this is actually his replacement in the squad?

Edited July 24, 2023 by Mhsc

[Fernando 6,591]

6 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Nizaar Kinsella is reporting that Gallagher has bene told he is surplus to requirements and is going to be leaving.

WHU want him

Men I thought Poch would have liked to work with him.

Oh well. 

[Vesper 30,272]

13 hours ago, Pizy said:

go to a club that’s won 12 titles in a row

11, unless you are already assuming they win it again this year (which is very likely, lol)

[Special Juan 28,187]

12 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Men I thought Poch would have liked to work with him.

Oh well. 

Another load of good money in the account is how I see it

[Mhsc 1,109]

2 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Another load of good money in the account is how I see it

How much are we really going to get for him if we are broadcasting he is for sale? Maybe £40m? Still will be good in the FFP books, but I was expecting him to stay at this point - he has done alright in preseason, albeit filling a hole in CM that shouldn't exist. Have no doubt he will have a good PL career, was just never clear if he is at the calibre we need if we want to win titles again.

[Pizy 18,985]

Gallagher is not Chelsea quality so I’d be good seeing him go for a nice hefty fee. He’s not good enough from a technical standpoint and he’s got that Ross Barkley sort of football brain where his decision making is slow.

He’s someone who will always do well for traditionally midtable level sides but isn’t good enough for a massive club. 

[Vesper 30,272]

14 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

You mean the same Sterling who has been capped 80+ times by England?    

If Sterling was still in his prime (like when he was getting 15+ PL goals a season for City), he'd be a definite pick in the English squad.   Don't see Grealish competing with that. 

Sterling has only had 3 great seasons on his entire career, all in a row, from the age of 22/23 to 24/25yo (he was born December 8, 1994, so turns 30yo on the middle of next season)

he absolutely peaked at the age of 24/25, which is bizarre, as he had no bad bad injuries

it is almost like he is like 70 to 80% of NFL running backs, who peak early and then mostly tumble down due to the insane physical beating that they take (the average career span for an NFL running back is around 3 years)

Sterling of course does not have that excuse

he has now had 2 meh and 1 poor  (last season) seasons in a row since

 

[Tomo 21,751]

35 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I refuse to blame a 19/20yo kid for Putin's war crime thuggery.

I couldn't agree more but unfortunately as we saw with Zinchenko's interview there are people that see all Russians/Belarusians as accessories (how the fuck did he get away with such a sweeping generalisation on TV in 2023? Don't get me wrong I have nothing but the deepest sympathy for what he and his country are going through however Russian citizens have gone to prison protesting the war and some are effectively on the run because they disagree with the regime, I meet a few in Serbia who pretty much had to rebuild their life from nothing because if they stayed in Russia they'd have been called up and didn't want to do it).

[Special Juan 28,187]

8 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

How much are we really going to get for him if we are broadcasting he is for sale? Maybe £40m? Still will be good in the FFP books, but I was expecting him to stay at this point - he has done alright in preseason, albeit filling a hole in CM that shouldn't exist. Have no doubt he will have a good PL career, was just never clear if he is at the calibre we need if we want to win titles again.

35-40M, Santos is here now, we have Enzo, Caicedo probably will eventually arrive and I think we will get one more.

[NikkiCFC 8,369]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I couldn't agree more but unfortunately as we saw with Zinchenko's interview there are people that see all Russians/Belarusians as accessories (how the fuck did he get away with such a sweeping generalisation on TV in 2023? Don't get me wrong I have nothing but the deepest sympathy for what he and his country are going through however Russian citizens have gone to prison protesting the war and some are effectively on the run because they disagree with the regime, I meet a few in Serbia who pretty much had to rebuild their life from nothing because if they stayed in Russia they'd have been called up and didn't want to do it).

What were you doing in Serbia lol

[Mário César 1,327]

10 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

35-40M, Santos is here now, we have Enzo, Caicedo probably will eventually arrive and I think we will get one more.

if we get another player besides caicedo what will happen to casadei and chouko?

[Vesper 30,272]

20 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I couldn't agree more but unfortunately as we saw with Zinchenko's interview there are people that see all Russians/Belarusians as accessories (how the fuck did he get away with such a sweeping generalisation on TV in 2023? Don't get me wrong I have nothing but the deepest sympathy for what he and his country are going through however Russian citizens have gone to prison protesting the war and some are effectively on the run because they disagree with the regime, I meet a few in Serbia who pretty much had to rebuild their life from nothing because if they stayed in Russia they'd have been called up and didn't want to do it).

yes, but again, we were trying to buy him despite already having Mudryk, so we must have talked to him (Mudryk)

I doubt Mudryk would snap over an Armenian descent (100%) player joining us, a player whose family also fled a war (granted they fled to Russia, but that was pre Putin Russia, a Russia that was at the time being propped up partially by the US)

see this Time Magazine cover from July 15, 1996:

 

Hypocrisy of Russia-Did-It Stories Is Hard to Stomach (2016)

https://fair.org/home/hypocrisy-of-russia-did-it-stories-is-hard-to-stomach/

 

Hollywood even made a Jeff Goldblum movie about it

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0324619/

Edited July 24, 2023 by Vesper

[Jype 6,398]

I wouldn't mind Gallagher staying. Even if he's not starting quality I do think he'd be a good squad option to keep around. He's not on big wages, doesn't seem to have a big ego and demand a starting role, is an academy graduate to fill HG roles etc.

But at the same time I won't shed any tears if he does go, as long as the money is good. For Pochettino's 4-2-3-1 there's a bit of a probelm with Gallagher's position. Even though he can play both roles to some extent, he's not that well suited to playing in the pivot nor is he quite technical enough for the number 10 role compared to what someone like Nkunku offers.

As long as we use the Gallagher sale money on getting some tactically better suited players it might make sense to cash in but we shouldn't sell him just for the sake of selling if there's no clear plan to get a better alternative in.

[Strike 7,527]

 

 

[LAM09 7,069]

12 hours ago, Tomo said:

The only reason people even remember Shearer has the record is because he has a platform to remind us all the time.

As much as one trophy is 100x better than that 'honour'.

That might be the case, but it's still some achievement in what most view as the best league in the world. Being able to do both is surely Kane's priority.

[Vesper 30,272]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

 

 

£35m is too low

I am sure we can get between £40m and £50m for him (HG and a multiple capped Sr England player) who is only 23yo, so in the first year or two of his prime time (22/23 to 30yo or so)

£40-42.5m at a minimum

[LAM09 7,069]

Talent aside, I'm against signing Mbappe due to his attitude, but with our very impressive clear-out, would a move for him actually be feasible all things considered (FFP related)?

[Mhsc 1,109]

4 minutes ago, Vesper said:

£35m is too low

I am sure we can get between £40m and £50m for him (HG and a multiple capped Sr England player) who is only 23yo, so in the first year or two of his prime time (22/23 to 30yo or so)

£40-42.5m at a minimum

Maybe if our stance was that he is staying, if he is not being offered a new contract (2 years on his deal left) and we're shopping him around... Only way is if clubs get into a bidding war over him, I guess.