Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 20 hours ago, TheHulk said: Imagine believing Mendy is innocent or Greenwood for that matter are innocent just because they escaped jail. cannot recco this enough!!!! thank you Mhsc and Fulham Broadway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,256 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 We’ve been “weighing up,” “considering,” and “talking directly with Brighton” for weeks now. These journalists may as well not even say these things if nothing has changed. They’re just repeating themselves a hundred times. I saw someone remark how strange it was that we went crazy buying loads of players that we may not have needed the last couple of windows and had no issue putting up the huge fees. Now there’s a player that we desperately need and we’ve been haggling for ages. That’s what’s most frustrating about the Caicedo saga. If the club wants to haggle and play stubborn hardball for targets in positions we’re steady in that’s all fine and good. But our midfield has 1 top class player + a bunch of literal teenagers currently. So why are we dragging our feet on the most important position in the team? Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) deep misogyny here from some of these posts I do NOT want to hijack this thread with a long dissertation on this but ffs it disturbs me to no end to see violence against women attempted to be gaslit away and claimed it never happened (as if, for example, Greenwood's partner beat the shit out of herself) OR simply being found not guilty in a court of law means the crime did not happen and was not committed by the accused (see OJ, see a thousand mob cases, etc, or, back in yank Jim Crow days (and sometimes even now), white juries finding clear murderers, etc of us black folk by white folk to be 'not guilty') technicalities leading to a not guilty decision and/or jury nullifications (or outright jury fraud via tampering, etc) happen every day woman recant things against their partners all the time for a myriad number of illegitimate reasons, including battered wife syndrome I have had multiple straight female friends of mine (and even 2 lesbian friends in regards to their violent female partners) stick with a violent male partner and have too often heard the excuses of 'oh, he did not really mean it' or ' he will change' or 'well he is under a lot of stress financially/socially/family-wise' etc Edited July 21, 2023 by Vesper Blue Armour, enzoforever, Hashishi and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 19 hours ago, lucio said: Shame for his career if he’s truly innocent. He was a great player in my book he was never that great, as look at Citeh constantly trying for other LBs long before his legal woes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: he was never that great, as look at Citeh constantly trying for other LBs long before his legal woes I meant greenwood , he had really nice shooting. Dumb thug though, should be punished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 19 hours ago, DDA said: This thread has gone awol. I apologise if I have contributed to that but I will not abide open misogyny I personally have a thick skin (try growing up a mixed race black lesbian, lol) but some of the things said here are archetypical toxic lad culture adjacent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, lucio said: I meant greenwood , he had really nice shooting. Dumb thug though, should be punished ahh, I totally misread that, so sorry lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 I wonder if Brighton would like Gallagher ?? Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Vesper said: ahh, I totally misread that, so sorry No problem Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, lucio said: I wonder if Brighton would like Gallagher ?? THAT would be a win win for everyone (IMHO) lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 18 hours ago, Gundalf said: Villa with a solid transfer window. This years competition will be as tough as never great signing by Villa NEVER would have guessed over the past 3 years or so he would end up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 28 minutes ago, Vesper said: he beat the shit out of her but she has battered wife syndrome and retracted Yep. Whether Greenwood was actually convicted for his crimes or not there should be zero doubt to the fact he's a piece of shit who beats women. The photo and audio evidence was clear as day and I don't think I've ever even seen him try to deny it. The whole thing smelled really bad from the start with even the father of the girl coming out in defense of Greenwood, which probably had more to do with the fact Mason Greenwood is a multi-millionaire rather than him being genuinely concerned about the well-being of his own daughter. The Benjamin Mendy case seems a bit more vague though. The fact there were so many women accusing him would lean me to think there was something in the allegations but having read some media reports of the court case leaves some doubts too. An article on the Guardian quoted one of the accusers texting one of her friends the day after supposedly being raped at one of Mendy's sex parties as 'the best day of her life' and seemed to take pride in having shagged some celebrity footballers. Even if some of the Mendy charges had actual merit, things like that are what probably brought the whole thing down like a house of cards. To convict him the jury would have needed to believe beyond any doubt he had indeed committed the horrible acts and having some bogus allegations in the mix probably provided the reasonable doubt Mendy needed for the not guilty verdict. Whether Benjamin Mendy is a rapist or not is unclear but at the very least he's a repulsive sex addict who in court bragged about sleeping with 10000 women in his life. Tomo and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) we are so lucky to be in the EPL we are the ONLY league that can truly compete against the Saudi billions simply due to players wanting to play against the best players sure, Barca, Real, and Bayern can do so individually on reputation and results alone but even AC Milan, Juve, Inter, Atletico Madrid, Napoli, Dortmund, and yes PSG, (to lesser extent as they can also pay huge wages, even if not Saudi level) PLUS all the rest of the smaller teams in La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, and the Bundesliga are FUCKED and will only become more so as all those leagues become more and more drained by the Saudis and their filthy lucre Edited July 21, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 42 minutes ago, Vesper said: but ffs it disturbs me to no end to see violence against women attempted to be gaslit away and claimed it never happened (as if, for example, Greenwood's partner beat the shit out of herself) I actually agree with alot of your points, but I also stand by the fact, just because a women said it happened doesn't mean it did, the reason there is so much gaslighting is because there is so much false accusations from men and women, unfortunately the two come hand in hand, more recently you have underage boys and girls now going out in to clubs pubs what ever at the age of 14 with fake ID and they look 21, sleeping with adults males or females and shit just hits the fan. manpe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 20 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said: He was a good young player, shame a drunken conversation was even recorded in the first place, if every one recorded convos of Thiers partners saying stuff when they are drunk the courts would be absolutely rammed everyday a shame? yes, but NOT the way you mean Mhsc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Vesper said: a shame? yes, but NOT the way you mean If she doesn't give enough of a shit to not get back with him, why should I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: If she doesn't give enough of a shit to not get back with him, why should I? her stupidly going back to him has nothing to do with lessening the brutish, criminal, violent beatings/treatment he inflicted and certainly does not erase or even marginally ameliorate Greenwood's horrid moral character as a human being Edited July 21, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,341 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, Vesper said: her stupidly going back to him has nothing to do with the brutish, criminal, violent beatings/treatment he inflicted and certainly does not erase or even marginally ameliorate Greenwood's horrid moral character as a human being Clearly it does, she got back with him and bringing up a child around this violent horrible human being who's apparently bashed her head in a several occasions, if this is all true the only person I feel sorry for is then child. whats happening and manpe 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 18 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: They were top6 last season. If you look table last half season only City won more points. Top4 in last 25 games of 38. Basically with Emery they are there. Pau Torres, Tielemans and Diaby. They strengthen every line with 3 great players for just around 70-75m pounds. my West Brom Baggie-loving m8 is just utterly despondent, lolol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,048 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Clearly it does, she got back with him and bringing up a child around this violent horrible human being who's apparently bashed her head in a several occasions, if this is all true the only person I feel sorry for is then child. you are confusing/conflating poor ex post facto life choices (ie going back to him after the abuse) with legal/moral clearance of horrific actions Edited July 21, 2023 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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