Chelsea Transfers

[Fernando 6,602]

Yup I mentioned that if any hype for a WC player would be him if you can get him for cheap. 

Generally WC stars are a hit and miss. But for his age and if you can get for a good price then worth a shot. 

[Strike 7,533]

Anyone has a read on how good is Moukoko? I saw Germany got him on at the WC and he plays centrally

[Vesper 30,300]

40 minutes ago, Strike said:

Anyone has a read on how good is Moukoko? I saw Germany got him on at the WC and he plays centrally

was a superstar at youth levels, but has struggled a bit in top flight

big plus is he is a left footer

[MoroccanBlue 5,384]

This is reminding me of 2012 again. Buying so much young talent whilst failing to improve the squad immediately. 

[Superblue 6,372]

54 minutes ago, Vesper said:

was a superstar at youth levels, but has struggled a bit in top flight

big plus is he is a left footer

To be fair though he's literally turned 18 less than a month ago, I think he's held his own reasonably well given his age. Certainly if he's available on a free transfer in the summer or a discounted fee in January, he'd be definitely someone I'd be intrigued in taking because the potential with him could be huge.

 

14 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

This is reminding me of 2012 again. Buying so much young talent whilst failing to improve the squad immediately. 

But in hindsight just look at the players we bought around this period and the careers most of them have gone on to have - Mata, Oscar, Hazard, Azpi, De Bruyne, Salah, Lukaku. We were shopping in the right place, we just didn't have the patience and foresight to see it through.

I've got no problem focusing on younger talent, just so long as we don't clear out all of our experienced players in one swoop.

[Artandur 939]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Anyone has a read on how good is Moukoko? I saw Germany got him on at the WC and he plays centrally

Nowhere near being a serious first team alternative. If he's supposed to fill the Broja void, it'd be a stupid decision.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

The closest thing you could compare Moukoko to is probably Batshuayi but with slightly better technique. Overall a decent package of athleticism and finishing, doing most of the basics right but struggling with some elementary things like holding up balls and reading of the game.IIf you dropped him into PL right now he would ultimately fail but he would also score  quite few goals. He has done so at any level and unrelated to overall performance, one of the few natural finishers at this age.

Overall, I think he has been hyped too much and ppl including him started believing it. The very reason we might get him is that he is actually not that crazy good yet but he has age on his side so if we take care in developing him he might become an above average striker but I do not see him as an  some MBappe level wonder kid or becoming absolute world class anytime soon - at least not at this club.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,092]

20 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

The closest thing you could compare Moukoko to is probably Batshuayi but with slightly better technique. Overall a decent package of athleticism and finishing, doing most of the basics right but struggling with some elementary things like holding up balls and reading of the game.IIf you dropped him into PL right now he would ultimately fail but he would also score  quite few goals. He has done so at any level and unrelated to overall performance, one of the few natural finishers at this age.

Overall, I think he has been hyped too much and ppl including him started believing it. The very reason we might get him is that he is actually not that crazy good yet but he has age on his side so if we take care in developing him he might become an above average striker but I do not see him as an  some MBappe level wonder kid or becoming absolute world class anytime soon - at least not at this club.

@Artandur

Interesting thank you ML. How would you say he [Moukoko] shapes up against Adeyemi now that they have both had time to settle? I ask because I really liked Adeyemi's technical level ahead of his move.

Edited December 12, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

38 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

@Artandur

Interesting thank you ML. How would you say he [Moukoko] shapes up against Adeyemi now that they have both had time to settle? I ask because I really liked Adeyemi's technical level ahead of his move.

That's a tough one to give a fair verdict, cos Adeyemi only has 400mins in Bundesliga so far. For me Adeyemi he is not an out and out striker, rather an inside forward (being left footed). He is very fast in a light and elegant way, which makes him way more pleasing to look at than Moukoko. Technically Adeyemi is definitely more polished. Does a lot for the game, running off the ball, linking up with teammates well. But then he is also 34 months older. While Adeyemi's finishing is by no means bad he is streaky and misses a lot of chances game after game sometimes like Timo Werner, while with Moukoko you just know he is gonna score sooner or later even after a few terrible games. Being roughly the same height and slender frame, both have issues with the physical side of the game but for Moukoko it is less of a long term one due to his age. In short, while I think Adeyemi is and will always be the better, more technical, more well-rounded and versatile footballer, Moukoko will be the better pure striker.

[Artandur 939]

1 hour ago, Magic Lamps said:

That's a tough one to give a fair verdict, cos Adeyemi only has 400mins in Bundesliga so far. For me Adeyemi he is not an out and out striker, rather an inside forward (being left footed). He is very fast in a light and elegant way, which makes him way more pleasing to look at than Moukoko. Technically Adeyemi is definitely more polished. Does a lot for the game, running off the ball, linking up with teammates well. But then he is also 34 months older. While Adeyemi's finishing is by no means bad he is streaky and misses a lot of chances game after game sometimes like Timo Werner, while with Moukoko you just know he is gonna score sooner or later even after a few terrible games. Being roughly the same height and slender frame, both have issues with the physical side of the game but for Moukoko it is less of a long term one due to his age. In short, while I think Adeyemi is and will always be the better, more technical, more well-rounded and versatile footballer, Moukoko will be the better pure striker.

agreed. but moukoko is simply not far enough to solve any problems for us right now, or even next season

[Vesper 30,300]

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,384]

Liverpool linked with both Enzo and Bellingham. Together. Not one or the other. 
 

 

[Strike 7,533]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Liverpool linked with both Enzo and Bellingham. Together. Not one or the other.

Smart if they are planning a complete midfield overhaul. After this year, we should have low expectations about signing the top young players.

[DDA 9,985]

I would love to see Enzo Fernández here and will absolutely fucking hate to see him at Liverpool. 

Bad news. Very bad news.

[Reddish-Blue 2,517]

8 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Liverpool linked with both Enzo and Bellingham. Together. Not one or the other. 
 

 

Because they don't mess around in the transfer market. 

They needed a defender, they got VVD, they needed a goalkeeper, they got Alisson.  They needed reinforcements in midfield, went out and got Fabinho & Thiago. 

They wanted young talents as squad depth, they got Carvalho & Elliot. 

Compare to that us, and it's truly shocking how much money Chelsea has blown on players that didn't really improve the squad (Pulisic, Ziyech, Havertz, Cucurella)

[nyikolajevics 2,711]

2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Because they don't mess around in the transfer market. 

They needed a defender, they got VVD, they needed a goalkeeper, they got Alisson.  They needed reinforcements in midfield, went out and got Fabinho & Thiago. 

They wanted young talents as squad depth, they got Carvalho & Elliot. 

Compare to that us, and it's truly shocking how much money Chelsea has blown on players that didn't really improve the squad (Pulisic, Ziyech, Havertz, Cucurella)

 

Liverpool has the same coach for 7 years. Their system is solid so they know which kind of players they need.

 

Players you mentioned were signed by the time of 3 different coaches(Sarri, Lampard, Tuchel) and now the 4th is in charge. No wonder we have many players who look like deadwood, despite their talent and skills.

 

 

[Vesper 30,300]

3 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Because they don't mess around in the transfer market. 

They needed a defender, they got VVD, they needed a goalkeeper, they got Alisson.  They needed reinforcements in midfield, went out and got Fabinho & Thiago. 

They wanted young talents as squad depth, they got Carvalho & Elliot. 

Compare to that us, and it's truly shocking how much money Chelsea has blown on players that didn't really improve the squad (Pulisic, Ziyech, Havertz, Cucurella)

and they need wingers they got Jota and Diaz

only expensive sort of bust was MFer Naby Keïta, and he was nowhere near Saul or Bakayoko level bad

plus he will walk with these trophies

Premier League: 2019–20
FA Cup: 2021–22
EFL Cup: 2021–22
FA Community Shield: 2022
UEFA Champions League: 2018–19
FIFA Club World Cup: 2019

[Vesper 30,300]

12 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Liverpool linked with both Enzo and Bellingham. Together. Not one or the other. 
 

 

I do not see them dumping over £200m (in theory could be close to £250m on the high end) on just two players

[Vesper 30,300]

Chelsea ready to make most of Jorge Mendes influence to land Benfica sensation

Chelsea are looking to continue their trend of targeting Europe's most exciting you talent in the January transfer window by aiming to sign Benfica's Diego Moreira

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Chelsea-transfer-news-benfica-mendes-28714049

Chelsea are keen on Benfica’s teenage starlet Diego Moreira.

Blues co-owner Todd Boehly is continuing to try to harvest some of Europe’s best youngsters to build for the future. The Stamford Bridge club splashed out this summer to secure teenagers Carney Chukwuemeka, Cesare Casadei and Omari Hutchinson.

Chelsea were also recently chasing Brazilian starlet Endrick, from Palmeiras, but he is due to go to Real Madrid now. Blues, coached by Graham Potter, have now re-adjusted their sights to Moreira who is a left-footed winger who has been compared to Nani and Leroy Sane.

The Benfica ace and Portugal U19 international has already made a substitute appearance this term in the Champions League after making his debut last season. Moreira is under contract at Benfica until 2024 and the Portuguese league leaders are trying to extend his contract.

But Benfica are struggling to tie down the youngster, who is represented by Jorge Mendes’ agency, and may be forced to cash in on him in 2023.

Teenager Hutchinson joined from Arsenal in the summer and has already scored five goals for Chelsea's under-21 side in Premier League 2 before the World Cup break and made the bench for three first-team games without making it onto the pitch.

After travelling with the senior side for their midseason camp in Abu Dhabi, though, the youngster once compared to Eden Hazard has had a chance to impress the boss in a 1-0 friendly defeat to Aston Villa.

Potter said: "He was really good, dangerous and asked a question all the time. Throughout the game, he showed his quality but he wasn’t the only one. It was a spirited performance with a lot of young players so it was good."

Before adding: "It was a good game, [a] good performance from a young team playing against a really experienced Premier League side, so we've had a fantastic week, actually.

"[It is] Good to work with the boys that are here. Lads that have been injured have had a bit more time training and they've stepped their rehab on, so that's good. They're getting closer and it's been really, really positive to work in these conditions and we're happy with the week."

Edited December 13, 2022 by Vesper

[Strike 7,533]

 

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