Chelsea Transfers

[ulvhedin 526]

BTW what happened to Maxence Lacroix, for a moment there were quite a hype around him (and the fact we want him) but then all died 

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1 minute ago, Artandur said:

Why the fuck does he want to stay

abused wife syndrome?

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Just now, ulvhedin said:

BTW what happened to Maxence Lacroix, for a moment there were quite a hype around him (and the fact we want him) but then all died 

he had a bit of a regression, as did all of Wolfsburg, but I just mentioned him as a cut-rate price/high upside option 

[Special Juan 28,186]

Ornstein saying we are going full out for De Jong and cover his deferred salary

[Superblue 6,372]

48 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Wonder if we ever went all in on Dembele?

It doesn’t seem we were proactive at all when it comes to upgrading our attack. We randomly made a bid for Raphina when he agreed to terms with Barca for a while. Both Lukaku and Werner forced their way out, I think both of them could still be here if they didn’t make a fuss. 

 

Given the size of the bid, I don't think the Raphinha bid was random or not much thought had been put into it.

The problem was the sanctions left us in limbo to be able to put any work into a deal for the months leading up to the transfer window. In that time Barca had put a proposal to him.

I think the club played the deal right and in the only way possible really, even at risk of being burnt. We went in and agreed a deal with Leeds which put a lot of pressure on Barca to put up or shut up and I think we were probably confident Barca couldn't get a deal done which would leave us free to get him.

Disappointed because I think he's a player that would have done very well for us and the combination of him and Sterling would have been a very good upgrade in the attacking positions. I think from a proactive standpoint the issue is there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of quality currently on the market in attacking positions and even younger players you could perhaps take a bit of a calculated gamble on would cost huge transfer fees.

[Pizy 18,994]

Barca really are a disgracefully run club. To go balls to the wall signing 10 players when their wage situation is catastrophic is insane.

Hopefully we can swoop in and take advantage with De Jong and perhaps one of their strikers.

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1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

One thousand times.

You're misunderstanding what I think the 'silliness' is. 🙂

I think the continuing narrative that every evil under the sun is Marina's fault is what's silly. Now, the actual problem, I agree that has happened many, many times. 🙁

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10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Barca really are a disgracefully run club. To go balls to the wall signing 10 players when their wage situation is catastrophic is insane.

Hopefully we can swoop in and take advantage with De Jong and perhaps one of their strikers.

Barca board

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Barca payroll department entrance

[Pizy 18,994]

Like I said last night, if we genuinely want De Jong I feel like we have to move very quickly now. United were embarrassed yesterday and are in scrape the bottom of the barrel desperation mode in the market looking at names like Arnautovic and Rabiot. They’ll be at the point soon where they’ll be on their knees offering De Jong to write his own contract terms.

If they don’t sort their midfield out this week they could be looking at an Arsenal of last season start where they go 0 points from their first 9 available.

So if we want him it needs to be within the next couple of days.

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25 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Barca really are a disgracefully run club. To go balls to the wall signing 10 players when their wage situation is catastrophic is insane.

Hopefully we can swoop in and take advantage with De Jong and perhaps one of their strikers.

It looks like De Jong still has no more interest in leaving than Dembele did. Indeed, it's not unreasonable to suspect that he's in sympathy with Barcelona's plight and is willing to help them in every way, short of giving up the money he is owed or leaving the club. At the very least he seems ready to wait while Barca find and pull every lever they can think of.

Edited August 8, 2022 by OhForAGreavsie

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[cosmicway 1,333]

6 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

You're misunderstanding what I think the 'silliness' is. 🙂

I think the continuing narrative that every evil under the sun is Marina's fault is what's silly. Now, the actual problem, I agree that has happened many, many times. 🙁

Ooooh what a mess !
What Marina ?
I was talking about City's method of baiting him.

[Amad_diallo 17]

Aubameyang, deepay or zaha all three of those names I wouldn't mind at this stage,  We saw the everton game it was pretty much sterling being the focal point in attack. 

It wont work in the long run we need more attacking options the season is long and we compete on 4 fronts.  Players such as timo, odoi leaving shame it didn't work out but its problably for the best. And pulisic i'm a fan of his I think he has world class potential   but can he stay injury-free ? and havertz there's a lot of questions marks when I look at our current attackers.

 Ziyech he was a superb  in ajax, but he's been way too inconsistent here in Chelsea maybe he will prove me wrong down the line if he stays who knows only god knows.
But right now we need to strengthen people brush you off when say names like Aubameyang, deepay or zaha.

Have peolpe forgot what Aubameyang did in arsenal golden boot, being compared to henry, depay rebuilding his career going to lyon staring well for barcelona before injuries, and zaha when having a good day and motivated his unstoppable.

 

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10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Like I said last night, if we genuinely want De Jong I feel like we have to move very quickly now. United we’re embarrassed yesterday and are in scrape the bottom of the barrel desperation mode in the market looking at names like Arnautovic and Rabiot. They’ll be at the point soon where they’ll be on their knees offering De Jong to write his own contract terms.

If they don’t sort their midfield out this week they could be looking at an Arsenal of last season start where they go 0 points from their first 9 available.

So if we want him it needs to be within the next couple of days.

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14 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

It looks like De Jong still has no more interest in leaving than Dembele did. Indeed, it's not unreasonable to suspect that he's in sympathy with Barcelona's plight and is willing to help them in every way, short of giving up the money he is owed or leaving the club. At the very least he seems ready to wait while Barca find and pull every lever they can think of.

Yeah, I think this is a pretty good read on the situation. He seems pretty desperate to stay.

Unless Barca themselves tell him straight up that he HAS to go I think he will pull a Dembele in the end and reduce his salary.

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bye bye 👋

 

 

 

[Superblue 6,372]

Sky Sports reporting United have agreed a deal for Rabiot so I would assume they're moving on from De Jong now.

I think De Jong would be an outstanding signing if we could get him and really answers a lot of question marks over the makeup of our midfield from next season onwards with Jorginho's and Kante's contracts expiring.

However I don't think it's a position we should force a move. There may be some excellent options come up on the market next summer, namely Bellingham and Rice who we could look to position ourselves to try and buy. 

So for me this summer it's De Jong or no one in midfield, and as a result we're in a position really where we can wait it out and see whether Barca try to force him out or not.

[Pizy 18,994]

Getting Werner, Lukaku, Barkley, Kepa, and CHO out in one summer would be crazy. Ziyech and RLC links have died, unfortunately. And I wish they were all permanent instead of mostly loans. I’d upgrade Pulisic if given the chance as well but that’s probably too much turnover at once.