Chelsea Transfers

[Pizy 18,958]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

I don't want Gabriel. 

For Lukaku going we will see who we can get to replace him, but not Gabriel at that price. 

Who then? I’d rather just go the City/Liverpool route of the last few years and play with a load of midfielders than take a chance on some random striker.

 

[Fernando 6,585]

19 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Who then? I’d rather just go the City/Liverpool route of the last few years and play with a load of midfielders than take a chance on some random striker.

 

If we can't find one then just do that for now. 

Because that was the mistake in buying lukaku when the other options was not available. 

Just buy winger and midfielders for now. As well CB.

[Vesper 30,233]

On 15/06/2022 at 18:02, Clockwork said:

I would not want any of Inter player

 

you ae slating off WC or really good players because  Lukaku was a donkey?

smdh

Milan Skriniar  
Alessandro Bastoni   (many would bold him, I am off his train, Uwill come back on if he improves over the next season, as he has regressed a lot atm)
Stefan de Vrij  (if he was on a free (he is not), I would snap him up, as he has 3 good years left and would make a good stopgap filler) 
Federico Dimarco   
Marcelo Brozovic   
Nicolò Barella  
Denzel Dumfries    
Robin Gosens  
Lautaro Martínez  

[Vesper 30,233]

8 hours ago, Pizy said:

It’s really hard for me to think this is all about us being unable to offload players. We have already done so! Two staring CB’s have gone.

£70-80m or so worth of players and we got NOTHING!!!!!!!

but, sure, Marina is a genius

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

City - Alvarez, Haaland, Cucurella pending

Liverpool - Nunez, Carvalho, Ramsey, Bellingham pending next summer

Spurs - Perisic, Bissouma, Spence, Richarlson pending

Arsenal - Jesus, Vieria, Hickey, Tielemans pending

Chelsea - Billy Gilmour Extension. 

[Vesper 30,233]

6 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

City have a higher FFP ceiling and more money in any case. They also have a manager who, probably more than any other, top players are eager to play for. On top of all that they have a reputation for a playing a style that potential recruits find appealing which is certainly not the case with us. Footballers simply find City a more attractive destination so, along with the money, it is far easier for them to land their targets. They aren't working any harder than we are. Quite the opposite probably.

the only things we have over Citeh atm are that we have won multiple CL's (they have none) and a world club championship, we have a better academy, and we are in London (as opposed to the shithole Manchester)

[Pizy 18,958]

9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

£70-80m or so worth of players and we got NOTHING!!!!!!!

but, sure, Marina is a genius

Rüdiger alone would’ve cost that much if we were buying him now. AC would probably cost 40-50m. And we lost them for zilch at the same time.

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

Sad day when Arsenal are rebuilding quicker and more effectively than we are. 

I'll say one thing though, if Havertz, Pulisic, or any attacker doesn't hit the ground running, fuck them off. No more excuses. 

[LAM09 7,063]

4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Rüdiger alone would’ve cost that much if we were buying him now. AC would probably cost 40-50m. And we lost them for zilch at the same time.

 

The former would have probably stayed had the club actually valued him when negotiations began. Seems like wages are all over the place, which has to be problematic (Werner on £225k~).

[Vesper 30,233]

3 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Rüdiger alone would’ve cost that much if we were buying him now. AC would probably cost 40-50m. And we lost them for zilch at the same time.

 

Rudiger turns 30 this coming winter, no way would a cub pay 70m to 80m quid for him

highest ever fees paid for CB's (look at the ages as well)

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

4 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

The former would have probably stayed had the club actually valued him when negotiations began. Seems like wages are all over the place, which has to be problematic (Werner on £225k~).

Doubt it. 

Per Matt Law Rudiger was offered 230kpw as the final offer in December and he turned it down. Think he and his agent knew well in advance the kind of money Real would pay. 

[LAM09 7,063]

9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Doubt it. 

Per Matt Law Rudiger was offered 230kpw as the final offer in December and he turned it down. Think he and his agent knew well in advance the kind of money Real would pay. 

"Final offer". What was the club's opening offer?

[Vesper 30,233]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

"Final offer". What was the club's opening offer?

some shady £140, 160K PW shit

[ZAPHOD2319 4,820]

 

[LAM09 7,063]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

some shady £140, 160K PW shit

Thought as much. No one should have a gall to question Rudiger's intentions when the club dug their own grave where he's concerned.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

6 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Thought as much. No one should have a gall to question Rudiger's intentions when the club dug their own grave where he's concerned.

Surely, the ppl in charge were insanely incompetent but nonetheless when Madrid came through the door with those crazy wages the ship had sailed. If Rüdiger really would have wanted to stay the final offer was still good enough. But he wanted that extra 100 pw which is legitimate albeit disappointing. He chose money over becoming a legend. Given how early Madrid went in for him and how long Rüdiger kept his options open, I doubt he would have signed any earlier extension anyway. as soon as TT took over Rüdiger's stock rose so rapidly, his brother and agent Sahr Senesi saw the opportunity to monetise the situation

The issue is not Rüdiger anyway but our overall contract strategy. Not extending Christensen and Rüdiger earlier, even under Lampard was stupid. The club should make an assessment somewhat independent of what the current manager thinks of players. You jsut can not afford to lose proven players for zilch. Even if Lampard had stayed as coach we could have easily prolonged those contracts and sold them at the next opportunity for more than with shorter contracts.

In the current market environment when players try to run down contracts when their stock is high you just can not afford to just sit there and let it happen. The board has to anticipate the squat situation in 1, 2 years and plan their contract management accordingly, not lose 2 players for one position during their best years for free.

 

[Superblue 6,372]

6 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Surely, the ppl in charge were insanely incompetent but nonetheless when Madrid came through the door with those crazy wages the ship had sailed. If Rüdiger really would have wanted to stay the final offer was still good enough. But he wanted that extra 100 pw which is legitimate albeit disappointing. He chose money over becoming a legend. Given how early Madrid went in for him and how long Rüdiger kept his options open, I doubt he would have signed any earlier extension anyway. as soon as TT took over Rüdiger's stock rose so rapidly, his brother and agent Sahr Senesi saw the opportunity to monetise the situation

The issue is not Rüdiger anyway but our overall contract strategy. Not extending Christensen and Rüdiger earlier, even under Lampard was stupid. The club should make an assessment somewhat independent of what the current manager thinks of players. You jsut can not afford to lose proven players for zilch. Even if Lampard had stayed as coach we could have easily prolonged those contracts and sold them at the next opportunity for more than with shorter contracts.

In the current market environment when players try to run down contracts when their stock is high you just can not afford to just sit there and let it happen. The board has to anticipate the squat situation in 1, 2 years and plan their contract management accordingly, not lose 2 players for one position during their best years for free.

 

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Boehly was pretty dismayed and surprised how many of the squad only have a year or two left on their contracts so I assume this is something that they want to address moving forward.

We really need to make a decision on a number of the players with 2 years left on their contracts this summer and see if they will extend otherwise consider selling. This includes Mount, Pulisic, Hudson Odoi.

[Vesper 30,233]

8 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Liverpool also now have their foot in to bringing Bellingham in next summer. 

Liverpool are completing this summer and next summer's transfers before we even complete one. 😂

I can lay out a  'Chels truly in the mud by the start of the 2023/24 season' scenario

we have a shit window now:

no swap deal with Inter, just a straight Donkeykaku loan (which, IF it also includes NO obligation to buy, is a disasterclass move)

lose out on Dembele to PSG

fail on all of these (now or next summer): Nkunku, Raphinha, Lewa, Gnabry, Sterling, Jesus, de Ligt, Škriniar, Barella, Gavi, Lautaro, Bernardo Silva, Bremer, Demiral, Frenkie de Jong, Youri Tielemans, Carlos Soler, Koulibaly

We ram through the now injured for months and months dwarf buy (and who then is a bust when he finally recovers)

(and do little to fuckall in January)

 

next summer

we lose Reece to Real Madrid,

plus Thiago leaves (bound to happen)

we miss out on Rice, Bellingham, Gvardiol, Chiesa, Osimhen, Florian Wirtz,  Bowen, Rafael Leão, Theo Hernández, Hakimi, Ndidi

 

 

 

[DDA 9,946]

The glass is truly half empty in here at the moment 

[Pizy 18,958]

9 minutes ago, DDA said:

The glass is truly half empty in here at the moment 

Fully justified until the new ownership proves to us that they’re more than just talk. We’re currently still standing still on the starting grid whilst many of our competitors are halfway around the circuit.