Chelsea Transfers

[Sevillista 17]

hace 1 minuto, Mário César dijo:

 

 

Today the sports director of Sevilla Monchi just spoke. I tell you what he has told about the Kounde case:

1. Throughout the summer many offers came to the club to sign Kounde. Most of them (like that of Tottenham) rejected by the player himself who wanted to play in a Champions team.

2. At the beginning of August the player's representative told Monchi that he had an offer from Chelsea and that he would contact the club to send an offer.

3. On August 15, Chelsea had not yet sent an official offer to Sevilla F.C. to sign the player and Monchi spoke with the agent to tell him that if he did not arrive before the 20th they would not be able to attend to her because he would not have time to react and sign other players.

4. Chelsea's first and only offer arrived on Wednesday, August 25 at 6pm for a value of 50M € provided they managed to sell Zouma earlier.

5. Although it was already the 25th, Sevilla rejected the offer and sent a counter offer to Chelsea (about 65M €). I remind you that the resignation clause is 80M €.

6. Since that day Chelsea has not contacted Sevilla again. Not to reject that counter offer or for anything at all.

These are the actual steps events that occurred with Kounde. You have been deceived from minute one. I understand that you may think that paying 65M  € is not worth it for Kounde. That is the law of supply and demand. Chelsea offered 50M € and Sevilla wanted 65M €.

I wish you the best for this year.

Greetings

 

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

6 minutes ago, Sevillista said:

Today the sports director of Sevilla Monchi just spoke. I tell you what he has told about the Kounde case:

1. Throughout the summer many offers came to the club to sign Kounde. Most of them (like that of Tottenham) rejected by the player himself who wanted to play in a Champions team.

2. At the beginning of August the player's representative told Monchi that he had an offer from Chelsea and that he would contact the club to send an offer.

3. On August 15, Chelsea had not yet sent an official offer to Sevilla F.C. to sign the player and Monchi spoke with the agent to tell him that if he did not arrive before the 20th they would not be able to attend to her because he would not have time to react and sign other players.

4. Chelsea's first and only offer arrived on Wednesday, August 25 at 6pm for a value of 50M € provided they managed to sell Zouma earlier.

5. Although it was already the 25th, Sevilla rejected the offer and sent a counter offer to Chelsea (about 65M €). I remind you that the resignation clause is 80M €.

6. Since that day Chelsea has not contacted Sevilla again. Not to reject that counter offer or for anything at all.

These are the actual steps events that occurred with Kounde. You have been deceived from minute one. I understand that you may think that paying 65M  € is not worth it for Kounde. That is the law of supply and demand. Chelsea offered 50M € and Sevilla wanted 65M €.

I wish you the best for this year.

Greetings

 

What if we activate his buyout clause last minute.

[Pizy 18,368]

We’ve sold off basically all of our best youngsters over the last few windows and also multiple first teamers who could’ve contributed all based on the idea that we’d reinvest in upgrades to help us challenge for everything immediately.

As awesome as our club have been in recent years for the most part this is one of the strangest summers ever. Trying to make up a massive points gap on City with only 1 signing. That’s…bold. 

[Mário César 975]

If we just signed Lukaku, its a pathetic transfer window 

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

We’ve sold off basically all of our best youngsters over the last few windows and also multiple first teamers who could’ve contributed all based on the idea that we’d reinvest in upgrades to help us challenge for everything immediately.

As awesome as our club have been in recent years for the most part this is one of the strangest summers ever. Trying to make up a massive points gap on City with only 1 signing. That’s…bold. 

My guess to try answer that is it was seen we only needed a CF to challenge, only thing I can think off? 

[Sevillista 17]

hace 2 minutos, BluesMadLad dijo:

What if we activate his buyout clause last minute.

We can not do anything. The player would go to Chelsea as happened with Kepa.

[Superblue 6,370]

I'm glad the club aren't being held to ransom over deals. If we manage to negotiate a deal with Sevilla for Kounde which is acceptable to both parties (maybe a few million extra in bonus payments) then fine, but in no way should we hit the panic button and pay the release.

In the same way with Saul, if we aren't fully sold on him then we don't agree to an obligation to buy. £40m will eat into budgets next season and he'll be a high earner so if he doesn't work out we'll be left with another player we can't get rid of.

It's not ideal as we are thin in midfield, especially given Kante's recent injury history but we've got the base of a really top team now that has been built well in the last couple of years. I would prefer to wait for top targets than make do with alternatives. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[DDA 9,690]

Fuck these clubs and their 'deadlines' who the fuck do they think they are?? The deadline is today... this dramatised bullshit is out of hand. They can all go fuck themselves.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Superblue 6,370]

5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

We’ve sold off basically all of our best youngsters over the last few windows and also multiple first teamers who could’ve contributed all based on the idea that we’d reinvest in upgrades to help us challenge for everything immediately.

As awesome as our club have been in recent years for the most part this is one of the strangest summers ever. Trying to make up a massive points gap on City with only 1 signing. That’s…bold. 

Our best youngsters have made the squad.

The ones sold or loaned out either aren't good enough yet or won't be good enough to make the grade. 

People do have to realise that we invested a fortune last summer in the middle of the pandemic and then have had another full year after this playing in empty stadiums, etc. There isn't just an endless pit of cash available, no matter what people might think. We've done really well to raise money through players that are surplus to requirements here to cover the Lukaku signing which is a serious investment and a potentially key cog into the team for this season. A lot of clubs across Europe have done far less business or spent a lot less money than us this summer. 

I'm sure if the opportunity was there we may have done more business this summer, but it'll be done on our terms which I think is the correct way.

[Pizy 18,368]

9 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

My guess to try answer that is it was seen we only needed a CF to challenge, only thing I can think off? 

But the manager who delivered us the CL trophy has said himself that we need a couple more signings. Multiple times he has said so in interviews.

I won’t slam the club until the window closes tonight but they will 100% have let him down if we sign nobody else.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Sule and Lacroix are available for €30m - €35m........

Edited August 31, 2021 by Blues Forever

[Jype 6,398]

44 minutes ago, Pizy said:

RLC made zero impact at Palace and zero impact at Fulham. But apparently he’s good enough for us? Chance after chance he’s had to show he’s Chelsea quality, here and elsewhere, and he has failed to show he is.

Should've just kept Billy or even Gallagher around.

Zero impact at Palace is simply not true. He was good enough that season to be called up to the England team for the 2018 World Cup and impressed enough for Sarri to keep him around even though Palace wanted him back.

Hodgson said: “It was no secret we wanted him back, because he’d done so well and we didn’t want to lose any of that team which had done so well. Ruben made an enormous impression, played extremely well, and was a decisive figure towards the end of the season when we started to really climb up the league from around March onwards."

People forget how good he was in 2018/19 for us once he really got a chance to play consistently. He ended the season with 10 goals and 5 assists despite only starting 17 games across all competitions. The achilles injury wrecked him badly but to say he was not good enough in 2017-2019 is just revisionism at its best.

After his injury he's not been good enough but I don't think it's a total disaster if he gets a chance as the 4th choice midfielder. Gilmour and Gallagher both wanted to go on loan for consistent playing time and Tuchel confirmed that during a press conference in pre-season. Especially for Gilmour it's vital for his development that he's at a club where he can play every game and he won't improve by playing a cup game here and there. If RLC doesn't perform, the window opens again in only four months and in the meanwhile Kante, Jorginho and Kovacic will play 90% of games anyway.

I definitely wanted Saul to come in because he's got enough quality to even challenge Kovacic for the 3rd midfielder spot and become a regular starter but for the next 3-4 months it's not a disaster if he doesn't sign and we can get back to it in the January window if needed.

Edited August 31, 2021 by Jype

[Clockwork 1,794]

14 minutes ago, Pizy said:

We’ve sold off basically all of our best youngsters over the last few windows and also multiple first teamers who could’ve contributed all based on the idea that we’d reinvest in upgrades to help us challenge for everything immediately.

As awesome as our club have been in recent years for the most part this is one of the strangest summers ever. Trying to make up a massive points gap on City with only 1 signing. That’s…bold. 

Let’s be real Kounde and a 4th choice midfielder will not change our PL chances. It will come down to our attack, and that is position we are not reinforcing.

[Sevillista 17]

hace 8 minutos, DDA dijo:

Fuck these clubs and their 'deadlines' who the fuck do they think they are?? The deadline is today... this dramatised bullshit is out of hand. They can all go fuck themselves.

If you want to sign one of the best players in my club, in addition to the conditions of sale being set by us, we need time to buy a replacement. Would you like a club to come today and sign an important player and you couldn't replace him with another? Your offer, besides being ridiculous, arrived on Wednesday the 25th. My club sent you a counter offer of 65 and you didn't answer anything. What is the fault of Sevilla? 50 was insufficient and your club knew it.

[chelsea_4_eva 1,157]

If they're not going to buy Kounde might aswell raise the loan fee for Saul to entice them and hopefully help with the option to buy and not obligation

[DDA 9,690]

15 minutes ago, Sevillista said:

If you want to sign one of the best players in my club, in addition to the conditions of sale being set by us, we need time to buy a replacement. Would you like a club to come today and sign an important player and you couldn't replace him with another? Your offer, besides being ridiculous, arrived on Wednesday the 25th. My club sent you a counter offer of 65 and you didn't answer anything. What is the fault of Sevilla? 50 was insufficient and your club knew it.

Honestly pal, I couldn't care less if we don't get Kounde... as a popular memeber on this forum has said .. he's a dwarf anyway.