Chelsea Transfers

[Marvin123 541]

7 hours ago, Thor said:

Agree with this. 

No one wanted Samu - he has balled out. 

No one wanted Raphina - Balon D'or candidate. 

Not many knew Cole - our best player. 

Anthony Gordon was lauged at - has been great for Newcastle. 

 

Given the hate for Gittens I am expecting back to back Balon D'ors and leading England to the WC final. 

Yep fully agree, I got slated for saying grab gordon for that left flank.

I had no clue about Samu though. But what a player there is there.

[milka 3,407]

48 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Hope we get this level of winger play again some day:

 

When we was elite club with Don Roman that type talents we got , not today's talents that we take that no one has heard of with  one season with 5 goals  .

[iceboy 1,048]

Advancing for Joao Pedro.

[Reddish-Blue 2,683]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

Hope we get this level of winger play again some day:

 

Maybe the Brazilian wonderkid could be that type, if he develops to the levels expected? 

[Vesper 31,112]

13 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said:

Maybe the Brazilian wonderkid could be that type, if he develops to the levels expected? 

time will tell

I just hope Maresca does not fuck him up

[Fernando 6,733]

I'm okay with gittens and joa Pedro just as long we get rid of nkunku, and Madueke. 

 

[Mário César 1,483]

6 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I'm okay with gittens and joa Pedro just as long we get rid of nkunku, and Madueke. 

 

nkunku will be sold but about madueke Im not sure 

[Mário César 1,483]

without penaltys, joao pedro had only 6 goals last season in the premierleague

its a very poor record

[Strike 7,807]

Currently have 9 players in the AM and ST roles for 3 or 4 spots in the XI - Neto Madueke Estevao Palmer Gittens George Jackson Delap Guiu + not even including Mudryk Carney Sterling Nkunku Felix DDFofana Broja Deivid Kellyman 

Wonder if they didn't spend on some of the kids or had the sense to stay clear of Sancho and Felix, we would have the funds to go for one serious player instead of signing Gittens + Pedro for 100+ million?

 

[Mhsc 1,146]

I've just been ignoring the whole Gittens thing because I don't know much about him and wasn't worth looking much in case the deal doesn't happen as so many of them don't. Guess it is time to check him out.

Usually I try to watch the "player vs team" youtube videos because you see every involvement (good and bad) they had in the game, but even then you still can't see so much (what runs they make, whether they are switched off in moments they should be switched on etc).

In the stats he looks very Madueke-esque with slightly better defensive output.

[Mário César 1,483]

14 minutes ago, Strike said:

Currently have 9 players in the AM and ST roles for 3 or 4 spots in the XI - Neto Madueke Estevao Palmer Gittens George Jackson Delap Guiu + not even including Mudryk Carney Sterling Nkunku Felix DDFofana Broja Deivid Kellyman 

Wonder if they didn't spend on some of the kids or had the sense to stay clear of Sancho and Felix, we would have the funds to go for one serious player instead of signing Gittens + Pedro for 100+ million?

 

felix and nkunku will be sold

guiu will be loan 

brojam fofana and sterling wont be in the club next season

[Stats 7,228]

28 minutes ago, Mário César said:

without penaltys, joao pedro had only 6 goals last season in the premierleague

its a very poor record

That is the thing, I like him. He is a jack of all trades and is very good at linking up with players, but for the money being touted, it baffles me. He does not blow me away. Good player. Top class? No. And we have similar players to him already. He is often good when he is playing of a target man, such as Delap which may be in the thought process too and he has more pace than likes of Nkunku, Felix, Palmer so probably makes us more fluid but think anything above £50m is way too much.

[Mário César 1,483]

4 minutes ago, Stats said:

That is the thing, I like him. He is a jack of all trades and is very good at linking up with players, but for the money being touted, it baffles me. He does not blow me away. Good player. Top class? No. And we have similar players to him already. He is often good when he is playing of a target man, such as Delap which may be in the thought process too and he has more pace than likes of Nkunku, Felix, Palmer so probably makes us more fluid but think anything above £50m is way too much.

thats my point also

he will be nkunku replacement

[Pizy 19,288]

The number of question marks around João Pedro and what he means for the team make it difficult to form a definitive opinion as of now. If he’s being bought as a pure striker then I don’t know how we can have all 3 of Delap, Jackson, and João Pedro in the squad and keep them all happy. Jackson would have to be sold. If we’re 

Feels like we need to hear directly from Maresca if this move happens to judge whether he’s a decent buy or not. 

[Mhsc 1,146]

Gittens looks like more squad filler tbh, albeit decently well suited to Maresca's system

Pretty underwhelming especially for £55m but lets see what he does for us.

Who are supposed to be the stars at squad filler FC? Cole Palmer good player but may never be that guy doing insane numbers again, so then who is? Are we supposed to have faith that Delap does big big numbers on the first try? Or there just isn't even ambition to score the huge number of goals it takes to win PL?

We still look massively short in terms of attacking threat imo. Upgrading our squad filler is good but it is more of a stabilisation job to get us back into being regularly top 5.

Doing well in CWC papering over the situation a bit imo, will get found out in PL again during the season if we don't do something better than this before the end of summer.

[Mário César 1,483]

5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

The number of question marks around João Pedro and what he means for the team make it difficult to form a definitive opinion as of now. If he’s being bought as a pure striker then I don’t know how we can have all 3 of Delap, Jackson, and João Pedro in the squad and keep them all happy. Jackson would have to be sold. If we’re 

Feels like we need to hear directly from Maresca if this move happens to judge whether he’s a decent buy or not. 

joao pedro will play in what position?

[ZAPHOD2319 4,954]

1 minute ago, Mário César said:

joao pedro will play in what position?

He has played mostly LW at Brighton and as Striker and AM. He does have quite a bit of versatility and always looking for goal. I think he would put both Gittens and Noni on the bench.

[Pizy 19,288]

8 minutes ago, Mário César said:

joao pedro will play in what position?

That’s what I’m asking. We won’t know until we either hear from Maresca after we’ve signed him or once he actually plays. 

Is he being seen as a left forward? If so, £60m seems insane when we’re also buying Gittens for the left at £55m. Is he being seen as a striker? We’ve got Delap and Jackson so when does he play? 

The only spot that makes some sense is in behind Delap or Jackson in a 2 striker system. But then how to you fit Palmer, Gittens, and Neto in at the same time? You don’t. 

[Mhsc 1,146]

One table that shows Gittens very favourably: xG and xA from dribbling situations.

[Pizy 19,288]

8 minutes ago, Mhsc said:

One table that shows Gittens very favourably: xG and xA from dribbling situations.

Yeah, all the data and statistics I see posted all over Twitter with Gittens says he’s one of the best around for his age even if the eye test is polarizing. And we’ve heard many times that the people on our board are very data driven.

So when you combine their love of data and their love of former City academy players, Gittens was a no brainer for them.