LAM09 7,085 Posted March 14, 2024 Share Posted March 14, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, ulvhedin said: Maybe Santos is simply not so good? For a side fighting relegation in France? I'm sure that isn't the case. More like another stupid transfer decision. 5 hours ago, TheHulk said: Yet they aren't even getting the best youngsters around, these guys are clueless. Screams "feeder club". If that's his intention, sell us and stick to Strasbourg. Edited March 14, 2024 by LAM09 bigbluewillie and Laylabelle 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted March 14, 2024 Share Posted March 14, 2024 im tired of this board wake me from this nightmare Vesper and Strike 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 13 hours ago, LAM09 said: For a side fighting relegation in France? I'm sure that isn't the case. More like another stupid transfer decision. So far he failed in 2 of 2 loans, of course you can try to turn it around as much as you want but if he was so good he would surely get a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,430 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 He showed more than enough in preseason to be kept around even after signing Lavia. Ugo should have been sent out on loan and Santos kept with our injuries and poor play in midfield he definitely could have played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 Lesly has 2 full seasons of Ligue 1. Why would we send him on loan over Santos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 43 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Lesly has 2 full seasons of Ligue 1. Why would we send him on loan over Santos? Because he sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 On 14/03/2024 at 10:02, TheHulk said: Where is Antonio Silva you fucking clowns. I have seen almost nothing on the other guys, but Ousame Diomande would be another lackluster signing. mkh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,430 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said: Lesly has 2 full seasons of Ligue 1. Why would we send him on loan over Santos? At the time we hadn't seen anything from him because he was brought in late and Santos showed more that we good tangibly see in preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Lesly has 2 full seasons of Ligue 1. Why would we send him on loan over Santos? People expect player who played 6 games in top flight Brazilian league to walk into Chelsea team. And then they are cursing at owners for playing only inexeperienced kid. Ugochukwu isn't great signing also, but decision to keep him and loan Santos out was reasonable at that time. NikkiCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 37 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said: At the time we hadn't seen anything from him because he was brought in late and Santos showed more that we good tangibly see in preseason. Barkley also was great in preseasons, it doesn't mean much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,942 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 bigbluewillie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Clockwork said: I have seen almost nothing on the other guys, but Ousame Diomande would be another lackluster signing. He is, was getting destroyed by Atalanta. We need Silva not this fraud. Edited March 15, 2024 by TheHulk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 2 hours ago, lucio said: Because he sucks You and I both haven't seen nearly enough of him to make that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, ulvhedin said: So far he failed in 2 of 2 loans, of course you can try to turn it around as much as you want but if he was so good he would surely get a chance. He joined Forrest when they were in dire need of midfielders, and within weeks of him joining, they brought several other midfielders with much more experience than him. A relegation candidate isn't going to throw a youngster in with no benefit to their own cause. Just look at Fofana's two loan spells this season; he started one league game in Germany while he's already started five games for Burnley in a much harder league. Is he suddenly "good enough" now, or has he just been given a chance to show what he can offer? I really don't know how Santos' career will unfold over the next few years; however, the reasoning you've provided for his lack of game time doesn't suffice. If he had gone to Portugal in the summer, he would have certainly been in a better position than he is now. Edited March 15, 2024 by LAM09 bluesman2610 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 5 hours ago, Clockwork said: I have seen almost nothing on the other guys, but Ousame Diomande would be another lackluster signing. These are the highest valuation (every one who is over €10m) 20yo and under CBs on the planet atm: # Player Age Nat. Club Market value 1 António Silva Centre-Back 20 €45.00m 2 Giorgio Scalvini Centre-Back 20 €45.00m 3 Ousmane Diomande Centre-Back 20 €40.00m 4 Leny Yoro Centre-Back 18 €25.00m 5 Jorrel Hato Centre-Back 18 €22.00m 6 Lucas Beraldo Centre-Back 20 €15.00m 7 Callum Doyle Centre-Back 20 €15.00m 8 El Chadaille Bitshiabu Centre-Back 18 €15.00m 9 Zeno Debast Centre-Back 20 €13.00m 10 Ismaël Doukouré Centre-Back 20 €12.00m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 I think we should be looking hard at a superb young (turns 22yo in May), under the radar, Italian CB Riccardo Calafiori €25m Date of birth/Age: May 19, 2002 (21) Place of birth: Roma (Roma, Lazio) Height:1,88 m Citizenship: Italy Position:Defender - Centre-Back Foot:left Player agent:World Soccer Agency Current club:Bologna FC 1909 Joined:Aug 31, 2023 Contract expires:Jun 30, 2027 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, LAM09 said: Just look at Fofana's two loan spells this season; he started one league game in Germany while he's already started five games for Burnley in a much harder league. Is he suddenly "good enough" now, or has he just been given a chance to show what he can offer? That's not true - he started 7 games in Bundesliga. And it's still a long way for him to say he is worthy playing for top club (like we want Chelsea to be). As to Santos - if player fails one loan, it may be accident, if he is failing his second it starts to look like he is not good enough. Edited March 15, 2024 by ulvhedin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,085 Posted March 15, 2024 Share Posted March 15, 2024 37 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: That's not true - he started 7 games in Bundesliga. And it's still a long way for him to say he is worthy playing for top club (like we want Chelsea to be). As to Santos - if player fails one loan, it may be accident, if he is failing his second it starts to look like he is not good enough. I wrote one thing while thinking of another, so thanks for the correction. What I meant to say was that he's started that many games at Burnley and played for the entirety of the match. That aside, we need to come to terms that "top club" and Chelsea don't go together at this moment in time; just look at half of the players that are regulars. If he manages to hit double figures during his brief spell, there should be no question he deserves a chance, provided we don't spend big on Osimhen, etc. Once again, how can you fail if you're never given a proper chance? Strasbourg are fighting for their lives, yet he's seemingly not good enough, in your opinion. If a player in their mid teens plays 49 games in just over a year and then is called up to the SENIOR Brazilian NT, I'd like to think there's something about him that these two clubs haven't noticed other than his lack of ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,475 Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 someone can give us the full post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,037 Posted March 16, 2024 Share Posted March 16, 2024 4 hours ago, Mário César said: someone can give us the full post? Interest in Osimhen is strong but there’s no ‘race’ for him - yet Guys, there's nothing new on Victor Osimhen so far despite reports that Arsenal are ahead of Chelsea in the race to sign him. There is no ‘moving ahead’ because it's not a proper race. There's no negotiation with Napoli as there's a release clause, so it's about paying that money and reaching an agreement with Osimhen. At the moment no club is close to that. Interest from various clubs has been there for months, but at the moment we're not any further along in the story. Mário César 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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