Popular Post! Mário César 1,483 Posted June 6, 2023 Popular Post! Share Posted June 6, 2023 Goodbye you will always be remember legend! lucio, Vegetable, Johnnyeye and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, Mário César said: caicedo is not good enough for example? My point isn't about specific names, but the expectations when we sign unproven players and that they will perform at the level we need them to. I don't know if Caicedo is going to be good enough -- there is always some risk involved in any signing esp from a smaller club. At least the league is same/strong, but the same could be said of Cucurella who looked pretty good at that level, and yet all that energy is only good enough if followed by enough skill/technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Kante has been one of my all time favorite footballers and in my top 3 favorite Chelsea players ever together with Drogba and Hazard. Be really sad to see him go but it’s the right move for both him and the club. Adios to one of the best midfielders of his generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,834 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Mário César said: Goodbye you will always be remember legend! 100 million Euro per year.. Man, this is depressing.. I have no complaint but work my ass off for years one daily salary.. Would be crazy not to accept.. Won everything already, he is over many injuries, can live in holy islamic place.. I wish him to accept and enjoy like crazy. Johnnyeye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 So that’ll be Kante, Kova, Mount, RLC, and for whatever it’s worth Zakaria all gone in one summer. Tbh, even 2 new midfielders may not be enough unless we are 100% going to give one of the 3 teenagers we’ve signed recently a real shot at first team footy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 9,104 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Mário César said: Goodbye you will always be remember legend! Stupidity by the club not fighting to keep him if I am honest. Can’t buy experience. Can’t buy anybody better than this fella either when he’s fit and firing too (think Poch could have maybe used him similarly to Jose with Maka in his last season here and if we had a competent medical team that could also of helped get him fitter)- seems a waste letting him go so easily. Losing Rudiger, Jorginho, Kante, probably Azpilicueta, Kovacic as well in this window all in the space of 2 years - big players who have brought a lot in different ways be it through leadership, experience or personality. Poch really has got a lot to do here to because the majority of this bunch have shown they are utterly feckless when it comes down to all three of those. I sincerely hope there are a few players with big personalities coming into this dressing room and soon. Can’t expect all of these young fellas to bring it all either, so whatever the strategies going to be recruiting wise, it better include some proven players with leadership and more importantly, personality. Edited June 6, 2023 by OneMoSalah Vegetable, Blue Armour, robsblubot and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Stupidity by the club not fighting to keep him if I am honest. Can’t buy experience. Can’t buy anybody better than this fella either when he’s fit and firing too (think Poch could have maybe used him similarly to Jose with Maka in his last season here and if we had a competent medical team that could also of helped get him fitter)- seems a waste letting him go so easily. Losing Rudiger, Jorginho, Kante, probably Azpilicueta, Kovacic as well in this window all in the space of 2 years - big players who have brought a lot in different ways be it through leadership, experience or personality. Poch really has got a lot to do here to because the majority of this bunch have shown they are utterly feckless when it comes down to all three of those. I sincerely hope there are a few players with big personalities coming into this dressing room and soon. Can’t expect all of these young fellas to bring it all either, so whatever the strategies going to be recruiting wise, it better include some proven players with leadership and more importantly, personality. You can't fight 100m a year in wages, it's impossible. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 So, dream of a big lot of people is becoming reality - Kante leaving the team, as do Azpi and earlier Jorgi, Silva on last drops of fuel before retirement, just one question comes to my mind: Who is the leader and true blue (and experienced footballer) in this dressing room now? Mudryk, Santos? We are struggling for character and leadership, so let's clear out anyone with any sign of those traits and replace them with most random bunch you can generate on football manager? Blue Armour 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Vegetable said: So, dream of a big lot of people is becoming reality - Kante leaving the team, as do Azpi and earlier Jorgi, Silva on last drops of fuel before retirement, just one question comes to my mind: Who is the leader and true blue (and experienced footballer) in this dressing room now? Mudryk, Santos? We are struggling for character and leadership, so let's clear out anyone with any sign of those traits and replace them with most random bunch you can generate on football manager? Kante earns 15m a year here, do you fancy topping up the extra 85m a year to keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, YorkshireBlue said: Kante earns 15m a year here, do you fancy topping up the extra 85m a year to keep him? All gossip for now, actually I believe Kante is one of a few players with moral backbone strong enough not to accept move only for financial reasons. There was a lot of talk that club didn't fancy to prolong his contract, so he could be pushed out of the door basically. If the salary was kept at current level, I'd take him on 2 year or 1+1 contract without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Gundalf said: Marca also said that Benzema will stay in Madrid. Romano claimed we are in for Nagelsmann and no talks with Poch happening. All those leaks are as good as useless this days I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,345 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Vegetable said: All gossip for now, actually I believe Kante is one of a few players with moral backbone strong enough not to accept move only for financial reasons. There was a lot of talk that club didn't fancy to prolong his contract, so he could be pushed out of the door basically. If the salary was kept at current level, I'd take him on 2 year or 1+1 contract without hesitation. Kante is at the end, we know it he knows it, morale backbone or not, if some one offer you 200m for 2 years playing football, your taking it regardless Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,091 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Vegetable said: So, dream of a big lot of people is becoming reality - Kante leaving the team, as do Azpi and earlier Jorgi, Silva on last drops of fuel before retirement, just one question comes to my mind: Who is the leader and true blue (and experienced footballer) in this dressing room now? Mudryk, Santos? We are struggling for character and leadership, so let's clear out anyone with any sign of those traits and replace them with most random bunch you can generate on football manager? We haven't had leaders or even positively vocal players in the squad since the old guard left. The sad thing is, our transfer direction is unlikely to solve that, which will continue to hurt us when the going gets tough (seemingly around Christmas time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reddish-Blue 2,674 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 26 minutes ago, LAM09 said: We haven't had leaders or even positively vocal players in the squad since the old guard left. The sad thing is, our transfer direction is unlikely to solve that, which will continue to hurt us when the going gets tough (seemingly around Christmas time). If we don't have leaders, then we should go into the transfer market and get leaders from other clubs. City got Dias, Rodri, Stones, De Bruyne, Gundogan as leaders to fill the Kompany void and they continue to dominate I don't think we've signed a leader in our team since Cahill/Thiago Silva joined...which is concerning. No wonder why we're at least 20-25 points away from the likes of City... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,950 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: Stupidity by the club not fighting to keep him if I am honest. Can’t buy experience. Can’t buy anybody better than this fella either when he’s fit and firing too (think Poch could have maybe used him similarly to Jose with Maka in his last season here and if we had a competent medical team that could also of helped get him fitter)- seems a waste letting him go so easily. Losing Rudiger, Jorginho, Kante, probably Azpilicueta, Kovacic as well in this window all in the space of 2 years - big players who have brought a lot in different ways be it through leadership, experience or personality. Poch really has got a lot to do here to because the majority of this bunch have shown they are utterly feckless when it comes down to all three of those. I sincerely hope there are a few players with big personalities coming into this dressing room and soon. Can’t expect all of these young fellas to bring it all either, so whatever the strategies going to be recruiting wise, it better include some proven players with leadership and more importantly, personality. Kante is by far my favorite player because of the man he is both on the pitch and away from it. The last two years have shown he is washed at this level. We can’t pay a player €290 a week because he is a good teammate. robsblubot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,091 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: If we don't have leaders, then we should go into the transfer market and get leaders from other clubs. City got Dias, Rodri, Stones, De Bruyne, Gundogan as leaders to fill the Kompany void and they continue to dominate I don't think we've signed a leader in our team since Cahill/Thiago Silva joined...which is concerning. No wonder why we're at least 20-25 points away from the likes of City... We're constantly linked with players under 25, and that seems to be the direction I mentioned previously. It might have a big upside down the line, but we'll pay the price in the meantime. City's leader is Pep, tbh. There's a reason they have a "leadership group" rather than an undisputed captain, which is certainly odd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 Absolutely love Kante, what a phenomenal servant he's been to this club. His performances in our Champions League win are comparable to that of Drogba in 2012. He just dominated and the rest of the team followed behind him. But you can't get away from his injury proneness now, and at 32 and on about £300k per week, sometimes that difficult decision has to be made. It's another experienced player that will be leaving but Kante has such a shy and reserved personality, I think his influence and experience is almost solely displayed out on the pitch rather than around the club and if he can't stay fit to be on the pitch, there's little purpose. I don't think it's the same as maybe an Azpi or Thiago Silva who I think would likely be much more influential not just on the pitch but around the training ground and the club in general. As I understand, the club offered him a couple of years with a contract that was heavily incentivised on him playing but if he did stay fit he'd be earning a significant amount. I think that was the right approach by the club to someone that has barely been able to stay fit over the past 4 years. With what he's been offered it's an absolute no brainer for him and good luck to him if he accepts it. Stats, robsblubot and Johnnyeye 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,105 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, ulsterchelsea said: who? very good, young (just turned 21 11 days ago) Spanish CMF/AMF 15 total goals produced (11 goals, 4 assists) in only 2/3rds of a season's minutes on a shit team that he carried when he played Edited June 6, 2023 by Vesper Superblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 6, 2023 Share Posted June 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Vesper said: very good, young (just turned 21 11 days ago) Spanish CMF/AMF 15 total goals produced (11 goals, 4 assists) in only 2/3rds of a season's minutes on a shit team that he carried when he played I would assume then he'd be on the list of targets should Mount and Havertz both leave, as it would leave a requirement for an alternative to Nkunku in that attacking midfield role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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