Pizy 19,254 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, DH1988 said: So surprised on Ugarte, really don’t see him as a quality addition to us, better than what we have? Sure, stats wise, in another league. Rather we look elsewhere to be frank. If he was the centerpiece of our midfield I’d agree he’d be slightly underwhelming. But we already have an absolute gem in there with Enzo. What we need now are midfielders who compliment him and do all the dirty work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,207 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 43 minutes ago, Superblue said: I believe the fee was £56m + £7m in add ons and would assume none of those add ons have been activated yet. So his remaining transfer fee from an accounting/amortisation perspective should be around £47m. I know it's far from ideal, but he'll have around £9m amortisation again next season if he stayed, so if we were able to move him on for anywhere around £40m I do think it should be considered. However it'll come down to Poch and what he thinks he can do with which players. He's not Chelsea level.. I hope Potch doesn't start seeing players who may have seemed fit to wear a Spurs shirt the same calibre of player Chelsea are settling for. Hopefully he aims higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Would do very, very well to get those sums in. But I think if we could get somewhere within the £200-250m bracket would be a very solid achievement. I don't think that list is particularly controversial - could easily see most, if not all of the above players being moved on this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,666 Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Superblue said: Would do very, very well to get those sums in. But I think if we could get somewhere within the £200-250m bracket would be a very solid achievement. I don't think that list is particularly controversial - could easily see most, if not all of the above players being moved on this summer. I would agree with that...anything north of 200 million for the players listed would be a good achievement. It would help reduce the wage bill as well. Not sure about the fees for RLC & Mendy though as Italian clubs love their cheap 1 season loan deals, I have doubts that they would pay 25 million for those players. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,763 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 hours ago, Pizy said: If he was the centerpiece of our midfield I’d agree he’d be slightly underwhelming. But we already have an absolute gem in there with Enzo. What we need now are midfielders who compliment him and do all the dirty work. Fabrizio yesterday saying Caicedo is still in Chelsea’s list and he expects a big revolution in midfield. If Kante and Kova both go I can see Ugarte and Caicedo being signed as the replacements. Fernando and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 9 hours ago, Superblue said: No way we will get 35m for Kovacic. 25m for Mendy, 5m for Azpilicueta and 25m for RLC are very doubtful also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,730 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Some saying this morning that the salary we have offered Ugarte is half of that of PSG- so it will be salary V PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lluubbeenn 188 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 It will be very long month and a half or two, if we follow the news and tweets. We have sooo many players for the media to speculate on. There will be a sh*t ton of made up stories. I know following the news is addictive, but it is a lot healthier to stay away from all of it. lucio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHulk 2,636 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 He probably will earn more if we make CL next season. kexik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,477 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 United also will try ugarte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheHulk said: He probably will earn more if we make CL next season. I don't mind this. It's something the club should have got a hold on years ago. There will always be a transition period with something like this but by the end of this summer, given the number of new signings, players agreeing new deals, we might find there aren't too many players left on 'old' contracts. It's hardly like we're going to be poor payers, but I think having much greater incentivised contracts is healthier for the long term. Like you suggested, his contract probably isn't too dissimilar to the one PSG are offering if targets are met. DH1988 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mário César said: United also will try ugarte They’ve already got one of the best DM’s in the world in Casemiro. Would be a nonsensical signing for them. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 hours ago, ulvhedin said: No way we will get 35m for Kovacic. 25m for Mendy, 5m for Azpilicueta and 25m for RLC are very doubtful also. Yes some of them would be very ambitious, hence why I said instead of the £280m posted, if we got anywhere within the £200-250m range I think we'd have done well, assuming that list is correct for players to move on. As an example, there's rumours this morning that an agreement for RLC might be close for around £15m + bonuses. A few of those suggestions could easily have £5 - 10m shaved off their prices, especially if the players move abroad. If we can find buyers for some players in England, a few of those prices might not be too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,666 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Pizy said: They’ve already got one of the best DM’s in the world in Casemiro. Would be a nonsensical signing for them. Their other options are Fred and McTom in the midfield, I can see why they'd be interested in another midfielder, whether its Ugarte or Caicedo, adding steel to your midfield is never a bad thing (something we've lacked since Essien left us and then Kante started picking up all those injuries). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 16 minutes ago, Reddish-Blue said: Their other options are Fred and McTom in the midfield, I can see why they'd be interested in another midfielder, whether its Ugarte or Caicedo, adding steel to your midfield is never a bad thing (something we've lacked since Essien left us and then Kante started picking up all those injuries). Feels like Ugarte is the exact opposite sort of profile they need in midfield. They’re like the opposite of us. We have the world class playmaker/ball player in Enzo but lack the hard man DM/destroyer. They have the DM but lack the playmaker deeper in midfield. Which is why they’ve wanted De Jong so badly. Bruno and Eriksen are more advanced players and aren’t best suited further away from goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,763 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 4 hours ago, TheHulk said: He probably will earn more if we make CL next season. Reports that the gap in salary is 2.6m per year. PSG have also said they will pay the transfer fee in fewer installments than Chelsea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Before 1st July we can still sign players on 7, 8, 9 years contracts. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,207 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 8 minutes ago, Strike said: Reports that the gap in salary is 2.6m per year. PSG have also said they will pay the transfer fee in fewer installments than Chelsea We won't get him then. It's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,254 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Are we going to become cheap bastards wage wise under Boehly? If we are indeed going to target players like a Ugarte, Osimhen, Caicedo etc who are highly sought after by a handful of other top clubs then surely our hierarchy can’t expect to convince these guys to choose Chelsea when we’re offering half the wages of the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,730 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Interesting to see if this collapses being the first big target of the summer and the fact that Poch has apparently spoken to him. Could be the first kick in the teeth for Poch and the first failed target and the board failing at the first fence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now