Chelsea Transfers

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6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Resigning Mount would be far from it. I mean surely most can see Poch might actually utilise someone like Mase, no?

He fits the profile of these kind of players he has improved at Southamtpon and Spurs - granted MM has been pish this season in terms of his consistency and outputs but he has that aggression and energy to get around the pitch and make a telling contribution in a high pressing team as well as some individual qualities which we all know he can show - just needs to start doing it again and really fine tune that part of his game. 

Even Gallagher, I think Poch may even find a place for him in the squad - although I hope not as firstly I think he isn’t cut out for the level we want to be going towards and secondly, we need to cut some players to make the squad smaller (Ruben also has to go 100%).

I’ve always believed if the club takes the contract down from 7 years to 3/4, Mason would resign regardless. So we will see.

That's going to be the biggest problem for Mason, wherever he goes.    He needs to add consistent goals/assists to his game to take that next step. 

As for the contract length, I'd be surprised if it's more than 3 years in length as Mason would be better off proving himself in the next 2 years and then negotiate a better deal or hit the open market and get a move elsewhere (whereas Reece will have his fair share of injuries due to the body build...so the 6+1 deal makes perfect sense for his future). 

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I rate Kovacic but wouldn't mind if he left. We need a proper DM/6 to play alongside Enzo and Kovacic is not that.

Fact of the matter is some of our current midfielders have to leave to get to an optimal squad size and Enzo is the only one who's future at the club is 100% certain. Out of Kante, Kovacic, Mount, RLC, Gallagher, Zakaria it would be preferable to keep just two or at the very most three players and the rest should be gone. 

Chukwuemeka would probably benefit from a loan spell.

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10 minutes ago, Jype said:

Chukwuemeka would probably benefit from a loan spell.

I'd rather we tried to find someone that would allow a profit.

I'm really not seeing anything in this guy that screams Chelsea level player, eventual or otherwise.

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Along with the usual suspects, we need to offload some of the academy boys next window. RLC, Chalobah and one of Mount or Gallagher for me.

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58 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I'd rather we tried to find someone that would allow a profit.

I'm really not seeing anything in this guy that screams Chelsea level player, eventual or otherwise.

Yep he was a weird signing.

English, young, handful of PL experience - seemed like an odd Abramovich era signing if I am honest. Just didn’t make sense. Probably should of stayed at Villa. 

Edited April 26, 2023 by OneMoSalah

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GK: Kepa, Mendy, Bettinelli, Slonina

LB: Chilwell, Cucurella, Maatsen

RB: James, Gusto, Azpilicueta

CB: Silva, Fofana, Badiashile, Colwill, Chalobah, Koulibaly, Sarr, Ampadu

DM/CM: Enzo, Kante, Kovacic, RLC, Mount, Zakaria, Gallagher, Chukwuemeka, Hall, Santos

LW/RW: Mudryk, Ziyech, Pulisic, Felix, Sterling, Madueke, CHO

FW: Havertz, Nkunku, D. Fofana, Aubameyang, Broja, Lukaku

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That makes it 41 players when counting all of our current squad, returning loanees and the arrivals of Nkunku and Gusto in the summer. We'll almost certainly be adding another striker as well as a new DM which would take the list up to a ridiculous 43 players.

Now that it's confirmed we won't be having European football for next season I would say the optimal squad size for a season of only EPL + domestic cups is around 23-24 first team players so as things stand there's around 19-20 players too many.

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Here's my list of players who we should be looking to get rid:

• Slonina (loan out)
• Cucurella / Maatsen, keep one sell one
• Koulibaly / Chalobah, keep one sell one
• Sarr
• Ampadu
• Azpi
• Kovacic / RLC, keep one sell one
• Mount / Gallagher, keep one sell one
• Zakaria (loan expiring)
• Hall (loan out)
• Santos (loan out)
• Chukwuemeka (loan out)
• Ziyech
• Pulisic
• CHO
• Aubameyang
• Felix (loan expiring)
• D. Fofana (loan out)
• Broja (loan out)
• Lukaku

That's 20 players. Probably won't be successful in offloading everyone from the list but at least 16-17 departures should be a realistic target, considering many on the list are promising youngsters who we'd be loaning out to lesser clubs for their development on the cheap.

Of the 'multiple choice' options I'd ideally look to keep Maatsen, Chalobah, Kovacic and Mount but I'll take anything as long as at least one of each category leaves. Lukaku, Aubameyang, Ziyech, Pulisic and sadly Azpilicueta are the ones who absolutely have to go.

Going to be a very busy summer at the club office. 😂

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42 minutes ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Along with the usual suspects, we need to offload some of the academy boys next window. RLC, Chalobah and one of Mount or Gallagher for me.

Gallagher....

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[Clockwork 1,794]

Am i the only one who thinks there is not much talent difference between Pedri and Wirtz?

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9 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Am i the only one who thinks there is not much talent difference between Pedri and Wirtz?

Are we linked to Pedri? Thought it was Gavi? Or just in general.

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5 hours ago, HEREIAM said:

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/arsenal-transfer-stories-have-signed-ngolo-kante-on-shock-two-year-deal-report-Chelsea-signings-rumours-gossip-paper-talk-afc

God forbid.

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55 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Are we linked to Pedri? Thought it was Gavi? Or just in general.

Gavi, i don’t think any of those players are realistic. I also don’t think Gavi is that good, but he is only 18. I think it is too early. 

I would like us to go after Wirtz if Mount goes.

Edited April 26, 2023 by Clockwork

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17 hours ago, Jype said:

GK: Kepa, Mendy, Bettinelli, Slonina

LB: Chilwell, Cucurella, Maatsen

RB: James, Gusto, Azpilicueta

CB: Silva, Fofana, Badiashile, Colwill, Chalobah, Koulibaly, Sarr, Ampadu

DM/CM: Enzo, Kante, Kovacic, RLC, Mount, Zakaria, Gallagher, Chukwuemeka, Hall, Santos

LW/RW: Mudryk, Ziyech, Pulisic, Felix, Sterling, Madueke, CHO

FW: Havertz, Nkunku, D. Fofana, Aubameyang, Broja, Lukaku

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That makes it 41 players when counting all of our current squad, returning loanees and the arrivals of Nkunku and Gusto in the summer. We'll almost certainly be adding another striker as well as a new DM which would take the list up to a ridiculous 43 players.

Now that it's confirmed we won't be having European football for next season I would say the optimal squad size for a season of only EPL + domestic cups is around 23-24 first team players so as things stand there's around 19-20 players too many.

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Here's my list of players who we should be looking to get rid:

• Slonina (loan out)
• Cucurella / Maatsen, keep one sell one
• Koulibaly / Chalobah, keep one sell one
• Sarr
• Ampadu
• Azpi
• Kovacic / RLC, keep one sell one
• Mount / Gallagher, keep one sell one
• Zakaria (loan expiring)
• Hall (loan out)
• Santos (loan out)
• Chukwuemeka (loan out)
• Ziyech
• Pulisic
• CHO
• Aubameyang
• Felix (loan expiring)
• D. Fofana (loan out)
• Broja (loan out)
• Lukaku

That's 20 players. Probably won't be successful in offloading everyone from the list but at least 16-17 departures should be a realistic target, considering many on the list are promising youngsters who we'd be loaning out to lesser clubs for their development on the cheap.

Of the 'multiple choice' options I'd ideally look to keep Maatsen, Chalobah, Kovacic and Mount but I'll take anything as long as at least one of each category leaves. Lukaku, Aubameyang, Ziyech, Pulisic and sadly Azpilicueta are the ones who absolutely have to go.

Going to be a very busy summer at the club office. 😂

There are 41 on the books? 😬There is a lot of work in the summer.

I agree with most of the 20 picked to sell. Would keep Broja around in a Nketiah-type 2nd option role. And find a way to replace one of Mendy/Kepa with an upgrade keeper.

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19 hours ago, Jype said:

GK: Kepa, Mendy, Bettinelli, Slonina

LB: Chilwell, Cucurella, Maatsen

RB: James, Gusto, Azpilicueta

CB: Silva, Fofana, Badiashile, Colwill, Chalobah, Koulibaly, Sarr, Ampadu

DM/CM: Enzo, Kante, Kovacic, RLC, Mount, Zakaria, Gallagher, Chukwuemeka, Hall, Santos

LW/RW: Mudryk, Ziyech, Pulisic, Felix, Sterling, Madueke, CHO

FW: Havertz, Nkunku, D. Fofana, Aubameyang, Broja, Lukaku

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You forgot about Bakayoko, Baba Rahman and Dujon Sterling.

Also there are Bashir Humphreys, Omari Hutchinson and Harvey Vale who all made debut for senor team.

Also you have to do something with higher rated youngsters like Charlie Webster, Burstow, and Cesare Casadei.

Edited April 27, 2023 by ulvhedin

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3 hours ago, Strike said:

There are 41 on the books? 😬There is a lot of work in the summer.

I agree with most of the 20 picked to sell. Would keep Broja around in a Nketiah-type 2nd option role. And find a way to replace one of Mendy/Kepa with an upgrade keeper.

Broja is a tricky one. After 6-9 months out with an ACL injury he needs regular games to get back to his best, and at this point it's still a question mark if even his best is good enough.

That's why I would loan him out for the season and then look at his situation again in 2024. If he has a good season out on loan we can either bring him back for 24/25 or sell him once his value has recovered a bit from the drop off caused by the bad injury. And if his loan season is bad then he's not going to be good enough for us anyway. I'm pretty sure I read a few days ago that Sporting Lisbon would like Broja on loan, something like that would be good IMO.

As for the goalkeepers yeah I agree something could be done there but for me it's way down on the list of priorities for the summer. If there's sufficient interest in one or both of Kepa/Mendy then we should sell and look for another option but I don't think it would be a disaster to postpone any GK decisions into next year.

Edited April 27, 2023 by Jype

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Broja wont be playing at this club anytime soon, not just with the injury but we will for sure be hunting down a new number 9 in the summer. 

The three in question for me are Osimhen, Ivan Toney and Rasmus Hojlund

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On 26/04/2023 at 17:04, OneMoSalah said:

Are we linked to Pedri? Thought it was Gavi? Or just in general.

Gavi

who is a cunt hair below Pedri atm, but both are crazy high level WC players at stunningly young ages

there are less than 10 WC CMFs  who are under 30yo (so no Kroos, Modric, Verratti)

I am not counting SMS, as he is more of an AMF IMHO
 

Jude Bellingham 
Pedri 
Federico Valverde    
Gavi 
Nicolò Barella 

drop

Frenkie de Jong    
Eduardo Camavinga

drop

Sergej Milinković-Savić
Leon Goretzka  

then the close but not there yet (or never will be WC) or have fallen off

Vitinha
Mikel Merino 
Matheus Nunes 
Alexis Mac Allister  
Rodrigo de Paul 
Mateo Kovacic 
Marcos Llorente    
Manu Koné 
Maxence Caqueret  
Carlos Soler
Seko Fofana  
Warren Zaïre-Emery     
Jacob Ramsey 
Piotr Zielinski
Ryan Gravenberch 
Orkun Kökcü 
Youri Tielemans
Eljif Elmas 
Youssouf Fofana

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CIES Football Observatory

n°419

World ranking of the 200 most promising youngsters

https://www.football-observatory.com/IMG/sites/b5wp/2022/wp419/en/

Issue 419 of the CIES Football Observatory Weekly Post lists the 200 U20 players in 75 leagues around the world (20 in each of the ten positions considered) who have accumulated the most official game experience during last year. The highest score overall was recorded for Barcelona’s prodigy Gavi, whose relative experience capital is 4.37 times higher than the average measured for players of the same age and position.

The top players by position are Plamen Andreev (Levski Sofia, goalkeeper), António Silva (Benfica, centre back), Alejandro Balde (Barcelona, left back), Rico Lewis (Manchester City, right back), Arthur Vermeeren (Royal Antwerp, defensive midfielder), Pablo Gavi (Barcelona, central midfielder), Bilal El Khannouss (KRC Genk, attacking midfielder), Matheus Martins (Watford, left winger), Ângelo Gabriel (Santos, right winger) and Marcos Leonardo (Santos, centre-forward)

The ranking was established according to the experience capital method, taking into account the minutes played in official games during the last 365 days, the sporting level of the matches and the results. Furthermore, the experience capital was related to the average measured for players of the same age and position, which allows us to present a relative score as mentioned above.

Relative experience capital, last 365 days

Experience related to the average measured for players of the same age and position. Date: 26/04/2023.

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