Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 28,795]

59 minutes ago, Vegetable said:

We can always sell him on cheap if there is a better option ACTUALLY IN PLACE.

LOL

good luck finding any takers for a 33+yo (turns 33 next season) oft-injured DMF on £340K PW (that's £17.7m per year in salary) until 2026

I am sure they will be queueing up like it was one of the Oasis gigs at Knebworth in 1996

Tickets went on sale at 9am on Saturday 11 May 1996 - the same day Manchester United beat Liverpool 1-0 in the FA Cup Final.

2.6 million people applied for tickets - which was 5% of the British population at the time. The band could have sold out the venue for two solid weeks.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Vesper

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

6 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Maybe we did not offer said amount to Benfica.

The point of contention here is that we told the player, Enzo, and his entourage that we would trigger the clause. Maybe something got lost in translation, but it apparently turned the players head., according to their club president. And there is some evidence here, given that Enzo basically failed to show up for training for few days.

Having a poor relationship with another club is one thing (and definitely not good), but screwing a top player doesn't send a good message when trying to convince other superstars. 

Anyway, damage if any, is already done. Time to move on.

😂

I would say that anything getting lost in translation would be highly unlikely. In fact it would be 100% unlikely. And that goes for dealing with any club across the world. I severely doubt this ever happens at top tier levels of European football.

There is no other way to put it barring the fact we told him and his agent one thing and did the complete opposite to what we told them. 

[Vegetable 830]

19 minutes ago, Vesper said:

good luck finding any takers for a 33+yo (turns 33 next season) oft-injured DMF

I can see 33 yo Kante killing it in Barcelona or Italy still, also the injuries may be less frequent in less demanding league. Let him go for like 2 mill and they will work the salary out. I can also see him just finishing the career when he will be actually unable to deliver, instead of taking a trip around the world.

I am far more concerned with where is TB going to eventually offload his transfer duds - maybe that's what buying satellite club is for as we didn't yet get rid of all the deadwood and already getting stuck in another Drinkwater situation x 5. Or we are going with hardcore Catenaccio with 10 defenders, who knows. 

Edited January 6, 2023 by Vegetable

[chelsea_4_eva 1,157]

Quite curious to see the terms of Kante's contract offer, given his history with injuries.

[Vesper 28,795]

It's just LUDICROUS that some here are still saying nothing out of the normal happened between us and Benfica.

That we did nothing except make one official offer of €85m, and that was it.

We agreed to terms with the lad, ffs. He was already halfway (or more) in his head in London.

We discussed instalment payments based off the release clause (where the hell do you think that overpay came from??? We floated that to see if Benfica would let us really break up the payments).

Why the hell would Benfica discuss instalment terms on a TOTAL offer that was €35m UNDER the release clause?

Come on!

Edited January 6, 2023 by Vesper

[ZAPHOD2319 4,477]

6 minutes ago, Vesper said:

 

With all the media manipulation, they still want to sell him. Always take the butt hurt tweets with a grain of salt.

[NikkiCFC 7,943]

If Zakaria level of last night continues that would be amazing. Kovacic is always good and CC impressed me! Kante will extend and hopefully be back at his best. Nkunku is already here. So we just need Enzo. 

Kovacic (Kante)     Enzo (Zakaria) 

                   Nkunku (CC) 

Keep Gallagher for squad depth because he can play multiple positions. Get rid of Jorginho, RLC and Mount. 

[Special Juan 27,424]

1 hour ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Quite curious to see the terms of Kante's contract offer, given his history with injuries.

I was surprised it wasn't ten years

[Vesper 28,795]

2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

With all the media manipulation, they still want to sell him. Always take the butt hurt tweets with a grain of salt.

There was no (or very little) media manipulation. The reporting on the instalments (for paying the full release clause) came because that is what we lead Benfica to believe we were going to do.

They have confirmed thsi at multiple levels.

We also agreed to terms with the player.

Benfica would never have held multiple meetings if we walked in and said from the beginning, well we think he is worth €85m, not €120m, so that is our offer.

Enzo would have never bothered talking terms with us if he knew we were going to make an official bid that was 100% guaranteed to be rejected.

It is not rocket science to see what happened.

 

[Pizy 18,368]

16 minutes ago, Vesper said:

It's just LUDICROUS that some here are still saying nothing out of the normal happened between us and Benfica.

That we did nothing except make one official offer of €85m, and that was it.

We agreed to terms with the lad, ffs. He was already halfway (or more) in his head in London.

We discussed instalment payments based off the release clause (where the hell do you think that overpay came from??? We floated that to see if Benfica would let us really break up the payments).

Why the hell would Benfica discuss instalment terms on a TOTAL offer that was €35m UNDER the release clause?

Come on!

This is why I pray we haven’t totally burned the bridge with Benfica and are still trying. Smooth things over and go back to the table with them. 

We have a top class player whose head has been so completely turned and has been so convinced to come to Chelsea that he has skipped training and will now miss a match. How often do we see a player that eager to come here? We HAVE to pay the money and get him, ffs. 

[Vesper 28,795]

Just now, Pizy said:

This is why I pray we haven’t totally burned the bridge with Benfica and are still trying. Smooth things over and go back to the table with them. 

We have a top class player whose head has been so completely turned and has been so convinced to come to Chelsea that he has skipped training and will now miss a match. How often do we see a player that eager to come here? We HAVE to pay the money and get him, ffs. 

yep, and meanwhile there is now revisionism going on that tries to gaslight and paint Boehly as an innocent party, that the bid all along was always portrayed to Benfica from the start as €85m, as if they would have given that the time of day, as if Enzo would have agreed to terms for an offer that was guaranteed to be rejected instantly

[ZAPHOD2319 4,477]

3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

yep, and meanwhile there is now revisionism going on that tries to gaslight and paint Boehly as an innocent party, that the bid all along was always portrayed to Benfica from the start as €85m, as if they would have given that the time of day, as if Enzo would have agreed to terms for an offer that was guaranteed to be rejected instantly

We really do not know how they were disusing numbers. It really does not make sense that they sat down for a week and never talked about an actual total overall price. I don't think our negotiators were upfront about 85M but I also do not think that the 127M was a number that came from our people. Somewhere in the middle is the truth. 

[Vesper 28,795]

2 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

We really do not know how they were disusing numbers. It really does not make sense that they sat down for a week and never talked about an actual total overall price. I don't think our negotiators were upfront about 85M but I also do not think that the 127M was a number that came from our people. Somewhere in the middle is the truth. 

the release clause was €120m, I am sure the extra €7m or whatever was floated to see that if we overpaid a wee bit, would that get them to accept a better (for us with FFP) instalment payment scheme

zero chance Benfica and Enzo would have went and continued if we had laid out €85m officially to start

[Vesper 28,795]

finally!

https://vasco.com.br/boasorteandreysantos/

Vasco da Gama agreed this Friday (01/06) the definitive transfer of the athlete Andrey Santos to European football. Born in the youth ranks of Gigante da Colina, the midfielder will defend the colors of Chelsea, from England, in the coming seasons.

The youngster will end his first spell at the club from São Januário at the age of 18 with 38 appearances and eight goals.

ANDREY SANTOS

In São Januário since 2011, Andrey Santos started his career in futsal and it didn't take long to become the main reference of the 2004 Generation. by the Hill Giant.

In 2021, after debuting in a Carioca Championship match, Andrey Santos became the youngest player to ever play for Vasco da Gama in the 21st Century, leaving behind names like Talles Magno, Paulinho and Philippe Coutinho. The definitive promotion of Andrey Santos to the professional, however, only happened last season, during the dispute of the Brazilian Championship.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,477]

2 minutes ago, Vesper said:

the release clause was €120m, I am sure the extra €7m or whatever was floated to see that if we overpaid a wee bit, would that get them to accept a better (for us with FFP) instalment payment scheme

zero chance Benfica and Enzo would have went and continued if we had laid out €85m officially to start

This is purely my speculation. It could be wildly wrong. I think we want the deal done for 100M. There is nobody else even remotely showing signs of bidding. Our team makes an 85M offer knowing it will be rejected out of hand and think they can come back and get it done for 100M.

[Vesper 28,795]

3 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

This is purely my speculation. It could be wildly wrong. I think we want the deal done for 100M. There is nobody else even remotely showing signs of bidding. Our team makes an 85M offer knowing it will be rejected out of hand and think they can come back and get it done for 100M.

100m euros or pounds?

I assume you mean euros, in which case Benfica will tell us to fuck off

likely even at £100m, even thsough that is only £5m short of the release clause of €120m (£105m)

the 85m offer we short armed was euros (£74m)

 

 

[Vesper 28,795]

Callum Hudson-Odoi: Chelsea winger on life in Germany, Bayer Leverkusen and Chelsea (video)

https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/63350452

Chelsea winger Callum Hudson-Odoi, on loan at Bayer Leverkusen, talks to BBC Sport's Alistair Magowan about playing in the Bundesliga and his club and international future.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Vesper

[NikkiCFC 7,943]

Spurs find Reece replacement for us. Watch us getting interested in a couple of days 😄