Pizy 19,280 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 It’s certainly a pretty massive overpay for a player in his position but when you consider his age, his potential to improve even further, and our current poor position in the league it was always going to take an offer that’s sky high. I’d say he’s probably a £65-80m player under normal circumstances after the start he’s had at Benfica and the World Cup. What’s most important is that he’s the type of midfielder that can be what we’ve been crying out for for years. Someone who is hard as nails, super mobile, while not sacrificing technical ability and incredible passing. He’s essentially the perfect CM if he settled in the PL. He’s the sort of midfielder that supporters or Chelsea, United, City, Liverpool, and Arse have been desperate to sign for ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: That makes sense because any money spent on Youth Development isn't included. However, I still don't believe the Youth Development definitions mean player purchases, rather building on the youth infrastructure. Wouldn't be surprised if transfer fees are included also, but cannot see it extending through to 21 year olds. It'll be interesting though at what stage something like that would stop. Would it be anything under 18. It does make you wonder how some of our purchases of younger players in the summer were accounted for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: If Kante extends and puts his injuries behind, get back to his top form would be interesting to see him with Enzo. Caicedo would be perfect alongside Enzo with Nkunku at CAM. Edited December 30, 2022 by MoroccanBlue Vesper and DDA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Think about a midfield partnership of Kova + Enzo. How are you getting the ball off them? Or if we’re playing 4-3-3 and having Kova, Enzo, and Jorginho on the pitch all at once. Just total control of midfield. kexik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,241 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 If we get Enzo. Forget any other cm's coming in. We will be looking to bring Andre Santos and Casedi through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Pizy said: Think about a midfield partnership of Kova + Enzo. How are you getting the ball off them? Or if we’re playing 4-3-3 and having Kova, Enzo, and Jorginho on the pitch all at once. Just total control of midfield. Enzo, Kovacic, and Mount will probably be utilised the most on European nights. Are we thinking Nkunku at CF? Strike and kexik 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 10,241 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, Pizy said: Think about a midfield partnership of Kova + Enzo. How are you getting the ball off them? Or if we’re playing 4-3-3 and having Kova, Enzo, and Jorginho on the pitch all at once. Just total control of midfield. Very similar to what we saw at the WC final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 If anything happens with Jorginho’s or Kante’s supposed new contract offers and they decide to leave we should absolutely go in for Mac Allister to reunite him with Potter and (hopefully) Enzo. He and Mount as the most advanced of a 3 man midfield would be incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,516 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Pizy said: Think about a midfield partnership of Kova + Enzo. How are you getting the ball off them? Or if we’re playing 4-3-3 and having Kova, Enzo, and Jorginho on the pitch all at once. Just total control of midfield. And you want to destroy all of that with Rice 😀 Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: And you want to destroy all of that with Rice 😀 If we fail with Enzo & Bellingham I’d still absolutely “settle” for Rice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,835 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Tomo said: I'm guessing Benfica sorted the deal out before our new ownership got their feet under the table. Also the "10m to 100m plus" narrative is a bit misleading, Benfica got him so cheap because the Argentine peso is totally fucked, Palmeiras got 70m for Endrick and Brazil don't exactly have a strong economy, under normal circumstances Enzo would have cost around that to even get from River. Interesting point. But Enzo had been so highly rated and hyped before? About Endrick, I have known for years, it was breaking news everywhere when he signed for Real. About Enzo, I only heard this autumn when he made some breakthrough performances for Benfica in CL. But of course it’s maybe me only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashishi 148 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/577b7f7c-8846-11ed-bb21-8f4d97ec7b02?shareToken=06fa7c685d8d3797eb7710f7c14830a7 We could move for MacAllister if we don't sign Enzo. Personally I hope we sign both... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,666 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: We need to send some scouts to Argentina because something is in the water there currently... i would be really worried if we dont have a scout working in argentina for 10+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,835 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, whats happening said: i would be really worried if we dont have a scout working in argentina for 10+ years. That’s how we got Franco Di Santo!! 😄 whats happening 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I remember one of the big concerns about Potter being manager was whether we would have sufficient pulling power. Well so far Nkunku and Enzo have been convinced to join (even if we fail to agree with Benfica he wants to come) and Gvardiol considering and that's with our UCL position next season in doubt. Think it's fair to say that worry is over. Strike and Vesper 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,407 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) Edited December 30, 2022 by milka Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alabama 1,992 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tomo said: I remember one of the big concerns about Potter being manager was whether we would have sufficient pulling power. Well so far Nkunku and Enzo have been convinced to join (even if we fail to agree with Benfica he wants to come) and Gvardiol considering and that's with our UCL position next season in doubt. Think it's fair to say that worry is over. Add Benoit... Tomo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tomo said: I remember one of the big concerns about Potter being manager was whether we would have sufficient pulling power. Well so far Nkunku and Enzo have been convinced to join (even if we fail to agree with Benfica he wants to come) and Gvardiol considering and that's with our UCL position next season in doubt. Think it's fair to say that worry is over. Gvardiol is sadly completely off the table with Badiashile coming in. Both are basically the same age and profile, both left footed CB’s. And we also still have Colwill who fit that same description. So we must surely have been told behind the scenes that Gvardiol has his sights set elsewhere next summer. Hopefully that’s Real Madrid and not one of our rivals. Would really sting if we see him playing in the PL whilst we have the far inferior player. But on your overall point you’re right. Chelsea, much like United over the past few years when they’ve been down, can still attract top players regardless of position and manager. Strike and Tomo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon1991 233 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Tomo said: I remember one of the big concerns about Potter being manager was whether we would have sufficient pulling power. Well so far Nkunku and Enzo have been convinced to join (even if we fail to agree with Benfica he wants to come) and Gvardiol considering and that's with our UCL position next season in doubt. Think it's fair to say that worry is over. Yeah fair point. And I think the argument was weak to start with. Almost any player will want to come and play for Chelsea. We are still one of the best clubs in Europe and offer high wages. Why would any player not already in a top club not want to come and play here? IF you're not a striker that is. I can see why strikers would have doubts about a move when it's widely known it's though to make it here as an attacking player. Edited December 30, 2022 by Simon1991 Vesper, Strike and Tomo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: Gvardiol is sadly completely off the table with Badiashile coming in. Both are basically the same age and profile, both left footed CB’s. And we also still have Colwill who fit that same description. So we must surely have been told behind the scenes that Gvardiol has his sights set elsewhere next summer. Hopefully that’s Real Madrid and not one of our rivals. Would really sting if we see him playing in the PL whilst we have the far inferior player. But on your overall point you’re right. Chelsea, much like United over the past few years when they’ve been down, can still attract top players regardless of position and manager. Tbh i genuinely believe Colwill has Gvardiol level potential so i'm not too gutted about this one. If we somehow let Enzo slip through the net however, it would be up there with Moscow in my eyes, that's how much of a gamechanging signing i believe he'll be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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