NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Henrique said: Why do you guys dont like Zaha? The dude is pretty good. It looks like many people don't like him. Like I said I think it's Sancho or Zaha. So obviously I would prefer Jadon but if we can't sign him I'm OK with Zaha. For me Zaha it's top 5 wingers in the league with Salah, Mane, Son and Sterling. Only difference he plays for much weaker team. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Thinking with a sensible head on... much as I'd like Werner i think he will join Bayern in the summer. Just a hunch Could see Sancho arriving in the summer with us, though And I really dont think Gabigol is coming here, i reckon West Ham, Palace, Watford kinda club is getting him. Ian McGarry is the ultimate bullshitter, knows nothing. Think we will end the window with Dembele, and Ake, perhaps Zaha, too. Werner, Sancho, Koulibaly., O. Dembele, and that kinda calibre player do not move in January. Any stories about them can be filed under "gossip and nonsense" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy 342 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Atomiswave said: Bang fucking average man, we can surely do better at those fees, someone younger and with more potential. If we shit down 70-80m on him then we have learnt jack shit. Anything above 40m and its criminal imo, The clubs alarming financial figures for the last year has put into serious question just what level player we can afford to buy now. Losing nearly £100 million and revenue almost flatlining might well mean we're shopping at Aldi rather than Harrods in the coming transfer windows. Fernando, Vesper and Atomiswave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, chippy said: The clubs alarming financial figures for the last year has put into serious question just what level player we can afford to buy now. Losing nearly £100 million and revenue almost flatlining might well mean we're shopping at Aldi rather than Harrods in the coming transfer windows. I don't think I'd be too concerned with last year's figures. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken but those results will take into account us buying Jorginho, Kepa and Pulisic last season, whilst there was only one sizeable player sale I believe in Courtois. Also we didn't have Champions League football last season. Despite winning the Europa League, I think we've already over doubled our european money this season compared to last or something nearly as ridiculous. Having sold Hazard in the summer, Morata this coming summer and likely some other player sales, I think a good amount of money will be spent across the next 2 transfer windows. To be fair the times we feel we've shopped at Harrods, we've come away feeling we haven't got value for money so maybe that's not the best idea anyway. Vesper, Muzchap and Atomiswave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Zaha on one side, Pulisic on the other. Two crazy good, aggressive dribblers with fantastic pace. Or Zaha + Willian. Or Zaha + CHO. He's a player that requires opposing coaches to plan specifically for similar to how Hazard was for us. He's a massive pain in the ass to deal with as a defender, hence why he's amongst the most fouled players in Europe. That's the sort of weapon I want in the side. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Muzchap said: He's bang fucking average too That bang fucking average player u speak of rips defenses to bits and wins more points for palace then the remaining 10 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 57 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I don't think I'd be too concerned with last year's figures. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken but those results will take into account us buying Jorginho, Kepa and Pulisic last season, whilst there was only one sizeable player sale I believe in Courtois. Also we didn't have Champions League football last season. Despite winning the Europa League, I think we've already over doubled our european money this season compared to last or something nearly as ridiculous. Having sold Hazard in the summer, Morata this coming summer and likely some other player sales, I think a good amount of money will be spent across the next 2 transfer windows. To be fair the times we feel we've shopped at Harrods, we've come away feeling we haven't got value for money so maybe that's not the best idea anyway. correct. They are up until June 2019 and take into account no CL , plus Kepa, Jorginho etc. We are sitting on a tonne of money right now from TV and CL money to this date, plus summer sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulsterchelsea 3,221 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, ChelseaFanUK said: Thinking with a sensible head on... much as I'd like Werner i think he will join Bayern in the summer. Just a hunch Could see Sancho arriving in the summer with us, though And I really dont think Gabigol is coming here, i reckon West Ham, Palace, Watford kinda club is getting him. Ian McGarry is the ultimate bullshitter, knows nothing. Think we will end the window with Dembele, and Ake, perhaps Zaha, too. Werner, Sancho, Koulibaly., O. Dembele, and that kinda calibre player do not move in January. Any stories about them can be filed under "gossip and nonsense" The gabigol guy screams of serri to me. Remember the fella we 'really wanted' that went to Fulham it somewhere and could be dead for all we know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I say this is BS but... Fernando, killer1257 and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I say this is BS but... Why then even post BS like that? hahaGesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk Vesper and Muzchap 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jason said: I say this is BS but... We all love to gossip and panic, don't we? Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, BluesMadLad said: That bang fucking average player u speak of rips defenses to bits and wins more points for palace then the remaining 10 players. When did he last do that then? He is fucking bang average and offers little more than CHO. Where's his beast mode performances - all in the past...? Plus playing for a weaker time is sometimes an advantage as other teams won't park the bus and sit deep, leaving him room to run in behind. Maybe you missed the match against us where a very green James had him in his pocket for the entire game? 🤔 You are of course entitled to your opinion, but this guy is a colossal waste of money at the prices quoted. 👍 Vesper, Atomiswave, 0007 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Muzchap said: When did he last do that then? He is fucking bang average and offers little more than CHO. Where's his beast mode performances - all in the past...? Plus playing for a weaker time is sometimes an advantage as other teams won't park the bus and sit deep, leaving him room to run in behind. Maybe you missed the match against us where a very green James had him in his pocket for the entire game? 🤔 You are of course entitled to your opinion, but this guy is a colossal waste of money at the prices quoted. 👍 Coming a little naturally demotivated at Palace because he's done what he can there and now wants the step up (partly his own fault for signing a new deal). Similar happened to VVD before he left Saints. And no, I'm not saying he will come here and have a similar ascendency, just that you're being very harsh writing him off based on his first bit of bad form for quite a while. Muzchap and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tomo said: Coming a little naturally demotivated at Palace because he's done what he can there and now wants the step up (partly his own fault for signing a new deal). Similar happened to VVD before he left Saints. And no, I'm not saying he will come here and have a similar ascendency, just that you're being very harsh writing him off based on his first bit of bad form for quite a while. Hes done what he could there aka the odd fluke goal every 10 games? If we get him, the board is a disgrace simple as that. Atomiswave, Vesper, 0007 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Nicco said: Hes done what he could there aka the odd fluke goal every 10 games? If we get him, the board is a disgrace. If we're going to base things on goal stats, his record is similar to Damien Duff's before we got him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,051 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 If we're going to base things on goal stats, his record is similar to Damien Duff's before we got him.You have to take the magnitude of the potential transfer into consideration with such comments. Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicco 927 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tomo said: If we're going to base things on goal stats, his record is similar to Damien Duff's before we got him. Doesn't mean it will turn out the same. I repeat every single poster on this board who has watched him in the past season can tell he is an absolute dud. One of the most overrated player I've ever fucking seen, If we get him I sincerely hope he delivers because if not I will quote his entire player thread with posts from the last few pages where people ACTUALLY say he rips defenses to bits, sort of weapon I want in my team so they can point me to this mythical player which isn't Zaha. Muzchap and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Jason said: I say this is BS but... Agree extremely unlikely. Having said that as the report states, he only has 18 months on his contract and he has been at Bayern now for 10 years. If he wants to try a new league with a big club then really it has to be soon unless he leaves on a free transfer in 18 months time when he'll be just turning 29. If there is any chance of getting him for somewhere around the price in that report then he has to be our first choice. Even at 27 I think we would get 3 - 3.5 years of him at the top level and he has experience of playing centrally too which he could possibly do as he gets a little older. Atomiswave, Vesper and Muzchap 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Vesper 30,175 Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said: It looks like many people don't like him. Like I said I think it's Sancho or Zaha. So obviously I would prefer Jadon but if we can't sign him I'm OK with Zaha. For me Zaha it's top 5 wingers in the league with Salah, Mane, Son and Sterling. Only difference he plays for much weaker team. Bernardo Silva (25yo) is streets ahead of Zaha (and is left-footed so a perfect RWer for us, and can play AMF too) you also forget a healthy Sane (24yo in a week) Martial (24yo) too (and he can play CF as well) Richarlison (22yo) too (another one who can play CF) is another (being 5 years younger than Zaha as well is a big positive difference as well) I rate Zaha 9th after those 8 (your 4 plus my 4) My issues are age and price and a career-long lack of production (plenty of players produce decent numbers on shit teams) plus his wage demands will be super high, we all know this, so a potential changing-room point of trouble with some of our lads in the middle of contractual negotiations I think all in all he is worth around £50m or so, especially due to age, as we only get 2 full sub 30yo seasons out of him, and as I have tirelessly documented dozens of times, there are so few over 30yo wingers n the EPL (and globally so few who are decent), and almost all in the EPL are shit) There are NO EPL LWers over 27yo except for one, the just turned 30yo dregs that is Junior Stanislas. Let that sink in. At RW, there are only 4 over 30yo (we have 2 and one is soon gone) Aaron Lennon, Pedro (soon gone) Willian and Robert Snodgrass (not a pure winger either), plus two 30yo olds, Theo Walcott and the just turned 30 Andrii Yarmolenko (who plays MF as well). £80m plus around £52m in salary (£200K PW for 5 years, £41.6m if a 4 year contract) is madness for a 28yo at 3 months into next season Zaha. His production at top flight is weak 38 goals in 219 games for top flight teams basically a goal every 6 games so 6 or 7 a year is that worth £132m? especially as he will be basically worthless at the end of his contract £3.5m PER GOAL based on his cumulative top-flight career production (granted he should score a bit more with us but still you get the point) Atomiswave, 0007, Nicco and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Sunday papers are the worst lol. Jesus christ, the Express also saying West Ham linked with 70m Koulibaly. Utter nonsense Always suspected first week or so of window would be slow... quick succession of games ;and discussions ongoing. Muzchap, NikkiCFC and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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