closed Zenit 3-3 Chelsea

[coolhead23 1,147]

What a crazy game ... right from the start wasnt comfortable that it would a smooth sailing despite being one up in the 2nd minute. Hope to not see something like this again. 

With injuries and a packed schedule, wasnt expecting an A side against them ... it was more of lets try to make this work kind of squad. And we were lucky to get away with a point. Werner and Kepa were godly yesterday, both justifying valuation for which they were brought  ... for once! 

Finishing second is not going to help us in the draw but I would want us to be drawn to Bayern. We r the champions and shouldnt worry about facing any team. If we lose then we concentrate on the PL and if we win then our chances of winning the CL goes up because beating the best in the competition would surely boast our confidence. 

 

[cosmicway 1,333]

7 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

Would be great if we get Ajax or Lille, i don't fancy our chance against Bayern and Madrid without a full healthy squad.

Ajax is not great at all.
Lille is the beatable one.
Since we cannot be drawn against City-Pool or Juve, it's 1/4 of a possibility strong opponent (Bayern), 1/4 medium strong (Ajax) and 2/4 theoretically easy (Lille, Atalanta or Villareal).
If we finished first it would be 1/7 possibility of strong opponent (PSG), 1/7,  medium strong (Inter) and 2/7 theoretically easy (Benfica etc).
Maybe I 'm doing injustice to Atletico and Atalanta if I call them theoretically easy but it's more or less like that.
So it's not the end of the world draw wise. 
The question is are we going to play football this time or not.

 

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by cosmicway

[Warning_Hazard 156]

12 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Surprise surprise results start going to shit and you start posting nonsense again.

We have already won a trophy this season.

Accept ive been posting the whole time and theres no way we win anything major on current form, Wind ya neck in!

[Superblue 6,372]

Not a great result and performance last night but somewhat expected with the team that was put out.

I think it was the right opportunity for Tuchel to try a couple of different options like James in midfield and Saul wing back because options are limited at the moment with the midfielders we have out injured and Saul clearly not working in there.

We'll have to see who we get in the draw but the idea of having to win the group I think is flawed, even more so in the current format where the league champions are seeded in the group and more likely therefore to lead to groups with two top teams within. 

For me the two teams I would really want to play that early in the Champions League is Bayern and PSG and either 1st or 2nd place finish would give us a chance of drawing one of them. 

Real Madrid aren't the team they once were and are very much beatable and Ajax and Lille we'd be strong favourites.

[cosmicway 1,333]

4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Not a great result and performance last night but somewhat expected with the team that was put out.

I think it was the right opportunity for Tuchel to try a couple of different options like James in midfield and Saul wing back because options are limited at the moment with the midfielders we have out injured and Saul clearly not working in there.

We'll have to see who we get in the draw but the idea of having to win the group I think is flawed, even more so in the current format where the league champions are seeded in the group and more likely therefore to lead to groups with two top teams within. 

For me the two teams I would really want to play that early in the Champions League is Bayern and PSG and either 1st or 2nd place finish would give us a chance of drawing one of them. 

Real Madrid aren't the team they once were and are very much beatable and Ajax and Lille we'd be strong favourites.

Ajax are easy ...
They 're not.
Unless you feel too uncofortable to back an eventual winner other than Chelsea, put some money on them.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

Ajax is not great at all.
Lille is the beatable one.
Since we cannot be drawn against City-Pool or Juve, it's 1/4 of a possibility strong opponent (Bayern), 1/4 medium strong (Ajax) and 2/4 theoretically easy (Lille, Atalanta or Villareal).
If we finished first it would be 1/7 possibility of strong opponent (PSG), 1/7,  medium strong (Inter) and 2/7 theoretically easy (Benfica etc).
Maybe I 'm doing injustice to Atletico and Atalanta if I call them theoretically easy but it's more or less like that.
So it's not the end of the world drawise. 
The question is are we going to play football this time or not.

 

 

Still prefer getting them over Bayern or Madrid.

[Superblue 6,372]

49 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Ajax are easy ...
They 're not.
Unless you feel too uncofortable to back an eventual winner other than Chelsea, put some money on them.

I haven't said that Ajax are easy. Any team realistically getting out of the group stage should not be a walkover.

However, I would still expect us to beat Ajax if we're drawn against them.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

We know most likely get Bayern just because we're unlucky. Play like we know we are capeable of...we should be okay. Play like recently few games then help lol.

[cosmicway 1,333]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

Still prefer getting them over Bayern or Madrid.

Madrid I forgot. Medium strong like Ajax imho.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Lille

Real Madrid

Ajax

Bayern

[Blue Armour 4,448]

Claudinho looked a decent player. Any chance we might be linked with him in the future?

[cosmicway 1,333]

2 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Lille

Real Madrid

Ajax

Bayern

Lille 75-25
RM 60-40
Ajax 55-45
Bayern 30-70

If we play like yesterday or like against United it's 0-100 all four.

 

[Dan Lee 47]

Why do we fear Bayer, Real? It is what it is. If we are strong, we beat them. If not, another time. That's a beauty of the game. Do we want a weak team to win? If we are not good, we will have to see where we should improve and in future we can see the better Chelsea. If we are not happy with current team and pray for a win, then we are always in frustation mode. 

[Mário César 1,280]

If someone of you are afraid of Ajax, I don't know what to say..

The only team to avoid is bayern. 

And they played in a very easy group. If we get luck of get little players injured, we have good chances

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

11 hours ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Accept ive been posting the whole time and theres no way we win anything major on current form, Wind ya neck in!

Club world cup? Surely win that. 

Seasons still only half way in, the current form likely wont be out current form in a few weeks and you’ll be back to waiting for shit to go wrong before piping up again. 

[Warning_Hazard 156]

16 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Club world cup? Surely win that. 

Seasons still only half way in, the current form likely wont be out current form in a few weeks and you’ll be back to waiting for shit to go wrong before piping up again. 

Im not sure I'd class the club world cup a major but its probably on par with the FA cup although people would argue that.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

2 minutes ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Im not sure I'd class the club world cup a major but its probably on par with the FA cup although people would argue that.

FA cup is a major, CWC isn't.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

21 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

FA cup is a major, CWC isn't.

CWC is a big deal. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

20 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

CWC is a big deal. 

In terms of importance not really, i consider CWC a minor trophy just like Super Cup and Community Shield.

Major: CL, PL, FA Cup, EL

Minor: Carabao Cup, CWC, Super Cup, Community Shield

Edited December 10, 2021 by Blues Forever

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

1 hour ago, Warning_Hazard said:

Im not sure I'd class the club world cup a major but its probably on par with the FA cup although people would argue that.

Surely something you can only enter by winning club footballs most elite trophy is something worth winning though? Same with Super Cup. Plus as something we’ve never won, again even more incentive. 

Don't see why people look down on these two trophies, not as if its the community shield or something dead rubber like that.