Jase 43,479 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Ryebread said: I know. I made it clear that I accepted this fact. Don’t see enough goals. Simple as that. Hope I’m wrong If we can keep it tight at the back, we may need only 1 goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryebread 22 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jas said: If we can keep it tight at the back, we may need only 1 goal. I agree. I see our back as a total separate entity though. I think the front three is crying out for a real number 9 with some hold up play. Tuchel’s system would be brilliant if Werner were half the player he was at RB Leipzig, but he just ain’t. Not right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Pizy said: Ironically, Tammy in last seasons form probably would’ve been enough. Tammy if you count both seasons played minutes less than one full season. 21 goal in PL for Chelsea, goal every 155 mins. Plus 4 assists and some pens won. Very good overall stats, but we all know something is missing in his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Just now, NikkiCFC said: Tammy if you count both seasons played minutes less than one full season. 21 goal in PL for Chelsea, goal every 155 mins. Plus 4 assists and some pens won. Very good overall stats, but we all know something is missing in his game. I still think he would have been useful in a lot of games were we simply wasted too many chances. For all his faults Tammy is more clinical than Timo while being fast enough for the opposition not being able to press us high like when playing Giroud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: I still think he would have been useful in a lot of games were we simply wasted too many chances. For all his faults Tammy is more clinical than Timo while being fast enough for the opposition not being able to press us high like when playing Giroud. Yes, definitely more clinical. Tammy and Timo both scored 6 goals but Tammy just 4 big chances missed. Timo 18. About Bamford on previous pages... He had very good season. He has all in his skillset. 17g, 7a but his biggest problem is like with Timo. Big chances missed. He is top of the league with 21. So if he improves there he could be 25+ goals player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: I still think he would have been useful in a lot of games were we simply wasted too many chances. For all his faults Tammy is more clinical than Timo while being fast enough for the opposition not being able to press us high like when playing Giroud. Maybe so but on the flip side, Abraham missed 22 big chances in the league last season, second only to Jesus. He might have ended up with more goals then than Werner did this season but he had a nice purple patch at the start with 7 goals coming in the first 5 games and then scoring just 8 more in his other 29 appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Now that the dust has settled, both matches were fixes. I know that people who make such scenarios are fools. In addition if you have a friend like that you should beat him up from morning till night - this is the advice I 've been giving you for years. But I am looking at the fait-accompli now, I 'm not making theories. Here is what happened: We fix a deal with the villagers for a 3-0 away win. We do that but some wise guy props up and says "hey, Leicester know of this like open book - why don't we do the other thing, home win here, away win there ? if we can get them to condenscend of course". Leicester having nothing to lose enter the deal, the ref also enters the deal and they all live happily ever after. Edited May 24, 2021 by cosmicway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Any explanation for Apzi at wing-back lately? Loss of pace and directness down the flank - not sure what TT is playing at here. Reece is perfectly good in that role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Bad game, looking the way we're playing last few games we didnt deserve the top 4 ... there was no joy about finishing their, basically Leicester and West Ham were even bad in the final games. There is hardly any changes in the approach /strategy, just the intensity moves up a notch or comes down. Teams love to defend against us because we self destruct in the final third which makes defence easier. For a fan our playing pattern is so predictable imagine for those who are earning to analyse it ... City starts favorite and for me surely going the win the CL based on how we're performing post the semis unless there is some sort of miracle ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, coolhead23 said: Bad game, looking the way we're playing last few games we didnt deserve the top 4 ... there was no joy about finishing their, basically Leicester and West Ham were even bad in the final games. There is hardly any changes in the approach /strategy, just the intensity moves up a notch or comes down. Teams love to defend against us because we self destruct in the final third which makes defence easier. For a fan our playing pattern is so predictable imagine for those who are earning to analyse it ... City starts favorite and for me surely going the win the CL based on how we're performing post the semis unless there is some sort of miracle ... West Ham finished TWO points behind us last 3 games 2 wins and a draw, 7 out of 9, 7 goals scored, 2 conceded Chels last 3, 1 win, 2 losses, 3 out of 9, scored 3, conceded 4 If not for the mirror image (of our worst game (West Brom was that once a season fluke every team has) under Tuchel, that fucking Arse nil 1 loss) cockup by West Ham when they lost nil 1 to a hugely slumping Everton, WEST HAM would be going to the CL, and not us. Edited May 24, 2021 by Vesper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhead23 1,147 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 19 minutes ago, Vesper said: West Ham finished TWO points behind us last 3 games 2 wins and a draw, 7 out of 9, 7 goals scored, 2 conceded Chels last 3, 1 win, 2 losses, 3 out of 9, scored 3, conceded 4 If not for the mirror image (of our worst game (West Brom was that once a season fluke every team has) under Tuchel, that fucking Arse nil 1 loss) cockup by West Ham when they lost nil 1 to a hugely slumping Everton, WEST HAM would be going to the CL, and not us. Precisely they were bad than us ... the Everton loss and Burnley draw took away 4 points which were doable specially the way they were playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 31 minutes ago, Vesper said: West Ham finished TWO points behind us last 3 games 2 wins and a draw, 7 out of 9, 7 goals scored, 2 conceded Chels last 3, 1 win, 2 losses, 3 out of 9, scored 3, conceded 4 If not for the mirror image (of our worst game (West Brom was that once a season fluke every team has) under Tuchel, that fucking Arse nil 1 loss) cockup by West Ham when they lost nil 1 to a hugely slumping Everton, WEST HAM would be going to the CL, and not us. Well, thank god the season is played over 38 games and not over the last 3 games! If we profited from others slipping up in recent games, then one could also argue that the other teams profited from us slipping up hopelessly under Lampard. We basically "gave" them a head start when Tuchel came in and they still couldn't take full advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
different level 1,056 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Don't know about you guys, but I can never be happy with just a top 4 finish, especially with the way we barely scraped into it in Wenger-esque fashion. Yesterday's match was about sending a message to City and also getting the job done ourselves which honestly was something that should've never gone down to the final matchday. Instead we lost to a mid-table team with nothing to fight for and had to rely on Spurs of all teams to do the job for us. You might say I'm spoiled, but I absolutely refuse to accept us being demoted to a mere top 4 contenders which is the case in the past 4 years. Regardless of what happens in the CL final major changes need to be made in the summer. NikkiCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) Some players are getting old. There is no striker. If Werner and Kai will become strikers in the distant future is something I cannot tell, but they are not strikers now. If Werner is nonetheless useful with his fast runs, he is still no striker. Giroud is 34. The spectre of Mourinhos 2015 team haunts me. We won the league, we were expecting better, we got sh*t. We need to build a team this summer. Edited May 24, 2021 by cosmicway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, Jas said: Well, thank god the season is played over 38 games and not over the last 3 games! If we profited from others slipping up in recent games, then one could also argue that the other teams profited from us slipping up hopelessly under Lampard. We basically "gave" them a head start when Tuchel came in and they still couldn't take full advantage. no argument from me on that 👍🏽 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 ehhhh ... one of them now in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Strike said: Any explanation for Apzi at wing-back lately? Loss of pace and directness down the flank - not sure what TT is playing at here. Reece is perfectly good in that role So too is CHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Pathetic that yesterday, complete and utter shite. Jorginho is absolute car crash material. If we don't go charging for Lukaku I will go mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicway 1,333 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Special Juan said: Pathetic that yesterday, complete and utter shite. Jorginho is absolute car crash material. If we don't go charging for Lukaku I will go mental. Is n't Lukaku a case of Iguain - Pato now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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