Mário César 1,274 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 sad what happen to him bigbluewillie and robsblubot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Never understood the notion of dropping him for Kepa, injuries aside or course. I get that Mendy has shortcomings in that position, esp in modern's game, but it's not like we play similarly to City and need a sweeper goalie! I just don't see Mendy and Kepa as comparable goalies at all. Kepa is actually fairly rounded to my laymen's eyes, very rounded and consistently mediocre in all skills needed for a goalie with perhaps the exception of playing his foot. Mendy, on the other hand has the reach, size and command of the area of a top goalie. How do I know that? because he has shown that for a relatively long stretch of time; Kepa on the other hand has never shown anything remotely close to that. With Mendy leaving, perhaps it is really time for him to leave, I just see GK as a major hole in Chelsea's roster. I honestly think it's far more serious than the lack of a pure 9. You can score plenty of goals without a striker (enough perhaps to win CL 😉), but it's kinda hard to win silverware without a competent goalie. Vegetable, bigbluewillie and didi007 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 Still don't really get what's up with hate on him here, but fans are just fans. Meanwhile freezing him out of the team for half a season is just laughable and reminds the previous Lampard's stint. Not really surprised he didn't agree the contract if currently he may be seen everywhere between 1st GK and 6th GK, with possibility of being left out of the team for two years because why not. bigbluewillie and didi007 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didi007 69 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Vegetable said: Still don't really get what's up with hate on him here, but fans are just fans. Meanwhile freezing him out of the team for half a season is just laughable and reminds the previous Lampard's stint. Not really surprised he didn't agree the contract if currently he may be seen everywhere between 1st GK and 6th GK, with possibility of being left out of the team for two years because why not. Such a shame. Our GK who won the ECL, Super and World Cup being treated like scum by the club and some Chelsea fans. He rightly should be paid on par with Kepa after achieving so much with the club and more. I hope he goes on to a club that treats him with more respect. De Gea has had his ups and downs with Man U fans and yet he is well paid and much loved and respected by the club. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,274 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 but when he fall down with his performances? I remender last season he was decent almost all season, apart from a few games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 5 hours ago, didi007 said: Such a shame. Our GK who won the ECL, Super and World Cup being treated like scum by the club and some Chelsea fans. He rightly should be paid on par with Kepa after achieving so much with the club and more. I hope he goes on to a club that treats him with more respect. De Gea has had his ups and downs with Man U fans and yet he is well paid and much loved and respected by the club. You can't pay players based on their past performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 14 minutes ago, Tomo said: You can't pay players based on their past performances. wait what? Suppose you mean past glories perhaps? Because wages are mostly set based on past performances as there is no guarantee that the player will reproduce what he has done before. It's the same when signing players too: you sign players expecting that they will be able to reproduce what they've done in the past for you, perhaps even improving along the way if young enough. Now, yes, the club must assess if reproducing past performances is possible, which can be very difficult at time: goes into mentality, physique (age as well), and skill esp around the current needs of the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, robsblubot said: wait what? Suppose you mean past glories perhaps? Because wages are mostly set based on past performances as there is no guarantee that the player will reproduce what he has done before. It's the same when signing players too: you sign players expecting that they will be able to reproduce what they've done in the past for you, perhaps even improving along the way if young enough. Now, yes, the club must assess if reproducing past performances is possible, which can be very difficult at time: goes into mentality, physique (age as well), and skill esp around the current needs of the club. I worded it wrong but I meant players who were world class but have not been cutting it for a while now (that said I'd still play him over Kepa). I'd actually argue the problems we see today have been a chain of events that started as early as 2008/2009 when we didn't refresh the old guard despite warning signs they were (as a collective unit) starting to decline. Edited May 6, 2023 by Tomo robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,393 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 veni vidi vici He was special that season - Good Luck Mendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Yeah, I feel bad about Edou. He was pivotal in that UCL run. And he‘s been also very likeable  guy, I wish his good run lasted longer. He was never the same after AFCON and it feels like it all culminated with that shocker at Leeds. I will always love and respect him for 2021, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) Genuinely not concerned by him going, he had a very good first season yes and made some huge saves in that time in the CL games also but its not like he is going to a top club. That speaks volumes for me - if he was that good then he wouldn’t be going to play in Saudi, but he is, so yeah. Different to Kante though - should have kept him as he could still offer something here. Edited June 19, 2023 by OneMoSalah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Came here when we needed a reliable stopper, delivered,  won CL, then pretty much stopped working afterwards. Proves goalies can have purple patches too. No qualms , always did his best, likeable guy esp with his fairytale story. Now go collect your big pay check. Johnnyeye, Vegetable and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,507 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 13 hours ago, OneMoSalah said: Genuinely not concerned by him going, he had a very good first season yes and made some huge saves in that time in the CL games also but its not like he is going to a top club. That speaks volumes for me - if he was that good then he wouldn’t be going to play in Saudi, but he is, so yeah. Different to Kante though - should have kept him as he could still offer something here. Fair point but we could of kept Kante as well for the experience in midfield (I know his recent injury history wasn't great but he's still class on his day). It's weird to think that RLC might be the oldest midfielder in the first team squad next season (if he doesn't get sold). OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegetable 830 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 His slump happened pretty much the same time Kepa suffered as well, got injured and pretty much forgotten. Can't shake the feeling this guy literally got gassed here by typical mismanagement, incompetence and whatever else was happening behind the courtains didi007, bigbluewillie, Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 20/06/2023 at 13:02, Vegetable said: His slump happened pretty much the same time Kepa suffered as well, got injured and pretty much forgotten. Can't shake the feeling this guy literally got gassed here by typical mismanagement, incompetence and whatever else was happening behind the courtains one of the more bizarre Chels spells seems a really nice person I have zero ill will towards the bloke, I wish him all the best!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I cannot be fucking arsed saying long goodbyes to these fuckers- if they had put in half the effort I did to going to games we wouldn't have had a season like we did. Fuck off Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 6 hours ago, Special Juan said: I cannot be fucking arsed saying long goodbyes to these fuckers- if they had put in half the effort I did to going to games we wouldn't have had a season like we did. Fuck off tell us how you REALLY feel m8 🤣  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 7 hours ago, Special Juan said: I cannot be fucking arsed saying long goodbyes to these fuckers- if they had put in half the effort I did to going to games we wouldn't have had a season like we did. Fuck off  Is this really something we can throw on Mendy's head?  His performances were weaker than the ones in his first season, partly due to injury issues. I didn't read about any attitude issues and didn't notice on games either. didi007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, nyikolajevics said:  Is this really something we can throw on Mendy's head?  His performances were weaker than the ones in his first season, partly due to injury issues. I didn't read about any attitude issues and didn't notice on games either. I wouldn't throw anything at Mendy's head, he'd miss it. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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