Pizy 18,909 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Now we wait to see how easy or otherwise Bayer are to deal with. Are they classy like Leipzig and Ajax were, or are they like Napoli and that cunt ADL who is impossible to negotiate with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Pizy said: Now we wait to see how easy or otherwise Bayer are to deal with. Are they classy like Leipzig and Ajax were, or are they like Napoli and that cunt ADL who is impossible to negotiate with? Werner had a release clause, and Ajax had an agreement with Ziyech to facilitate his departure if a big club came calling. Different circumstances. Of course Bayer will try to get much as they can get for their biggest asset. Puliiszola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Pizy said: This is one of those rare transfer links where the jealousy is nearly unanimous amongst opposition fans. Reading around all the other clubs' forums and they all hate that we may get Havertz. 😆 Even with Werner who is one of the most lethal and top class strikers in Europe there were some who don't rate him and think he'll be "the new Morata." But this one? Nah. City forum in particular are gutted they aren't after him. taking Havertz off the board is massive, if we do it there are only a 30 names in the 'everybody (including RM, Barca) wants them' category (not saying everyone has a realistic shot, and many are impossible as they will not leave their current club) Bold are the top ones who are actually in play (even if barely) and many of those it would take a miracle to prise them away Mbappe Sterling Neymar Mane Salah De Bruyne Sancho HÃ¥land Havertz de Jong VVD Varane TAA Alphonso Davies Oblak Allison Kane Pogba Kante (last year on the list due to age) Lewandowski (last year due to age, zero chance he leaves anyway) Kimmich Saúl ÑÃguez de Ligt Lautaro Martinez Casemiro Werner Firmino Laporte Messi (obviously is out of reach for almost all other clubs) CR7 (soon off the list due to age, and also the Messi situ to a point due to cray wages)  João Félix (will take Kante's or Lewa's place next year more than likely), Koulibaly (age), SMS, Rashford, Rodri, José Giménez, Bernardo Silva, Sane, Gnabry, Dybala, Skriniar, Romagnoli, Ederson, Donnarumma, Verratti, ter Stegen, Cuntois,, Icardi, Lucas Hernández, Ferran Torres,Declan Rice, Mason Greenwood, Marquinhos, Robertson, and David Alaba (age) just missed Hazard fell off the list due to his disastrous season at RM and he turns 30 in around 5 and a half months, Antoine Griezmann the same (age too) Ousmane Dembélé is now well off it, same for Coutinho (crazy £275m (plus salary) shit away by Barca for them) Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Jason said: Like what? If he stays for the Europa League, then I am pretty sure he will play. Otherwise, what's the point? Fuck knows. Regardless, It is like 2 weeks extra and they will not go all the way to the final, it will be fine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,320 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Vesper said: taking Havertz off the board is massive, if we do it there are only a 30 names in the 'everybody (including RM, Barca) wants them' category (not saying everyone has a realistic shot, and many are impossible as they will not leave their current club) Bold are the top ones who are actually in play (even if barely) and many of those it would take a miracle to prise them away Mbappe Sterling Neymar Mane Salah De Bruyne Sancho HÃ¥land Havertz de Jong VVD Varane TAA Alphonso Davies Oblak Allison Kane Pogba Kante (last year on the list due to age) Lewandowski (last year due to age, zero chance he leaves anyway) Kimmich Saúl ÑÃguez de Ligt Lautaro Martinez Casemiro Werner Firmino Laporte Messi (obviously is out of reach for almost all other clubs) CR7 (soon off the list due to age, and also the Messi situ to a point due to cray wages)  João Félix (will take Kante's or Lewa's place next year more than likely), Koulibaly (age), SMS, Rashford, Rodri, José Giménez, Bernardo Silva, Sane, Gnabry, Dybala, Skriniar, Romagnoli, Ederson, Donnarumma, Verratti, ter Stegen, Cuntois,, Icardi, Lucas Hernández, Ferran Torres,Declan Rice, Mason Greewood, Marquinhos, Robertson, and David Alaba (age) just missed Hazard fell off the list due to his disastrous season at RM and he turn 30 in around 5 and a half months, Antoine Griezmann the same (age too) Ousmane Dembélé is now well off it, same for Coutinho (crazy £275m (plus salary) shit away by Barca for them) I think Firmino is starting to regress. 29yo soon and I dont rate him that much anymore. Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 17 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: I think Firmino is starting to regress. 29yo soon and I dont rate him that much anymore. His goals dried up a bit but his all round play and contribution is still very good. Both, he and Benzema are very very unique CFs for me, not many in that mould, who contribute so much to their teams build up and with assists as well as goals. Rolls royces on their days. Dont think he will be declining anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Only us are in the race, it's in Leverkusen's best interest to negotiate as he wants away. This will be done in the next week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Only us are in the race, it's in Leverkusen's best interest to negotiate as he wants away. This will be done in the next weekThen you can celebrate by jumping in the hot tubSent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,909 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Weird how silent Honigstein has been today. Couple of days ago he tweeted that Havertz wasn't even close to any move, that nothing was decided, and that nothing would be decided any time soon. Now we see a bunch of reputable sources today saying he has made his mind up to come here, agreed personal terms, and even spoken to Frank. Wonder which is true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: His goals dried up a bit but his all round play and contribution is still very good. Both, he and Benzema are very very unique CFs for me, not many in that mould, who contribute so much to their teams build up and with assists as well as goals. Rolls royces on their days. Dont think he will be declining anytime soon. But at least Benzema can still score goals. Firmino does not score consistently. He has gone past the 20-goal mark in all competitions only once in 5 seasons at Liverpool and has never scored more than 15 Premier League goals in a season (done so only once in his entire career). I get that he is a different CF but his lack of goals is simply covered by Salah and Mane banging them in. If goals from those two dry up, then Firmino's numbers are gonna get exposed and Liverpool will have problems. Stats and OneMoSalah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pizy said: Weird how silent Honigstein has been today. Couple of days ago he tweeted that Havertz wasn't even close to any move, that nothing was decided, and that nothing would be decided any time soon. Now we see a bunch of reputable sources today saying he has made his mind up to come here, agreed personal terms, and even spoken to Frank. Wonder which is true... Well, he retweeted what David Ornstein posted on The Athletic. So... Pizy, Supermonkey92 and Dimitr 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said: I think Firmino is starting to regress. 29yo soon and I dont rate him that much anymore. oh, yes, and that list will change a lot for next summer and the summer after that it is only a snapshot in time I guess to sum it up the point was to show that the only players (removing the insanely expensive Mbappe (who can only be afforded by PSG, Shitty, RM and Barca, maybe, maybe Manure, and all of those but PSG would need to trim their salary loads to balance the books) Havertz is in an ultra elite group of 10 players who could be purchased (and Varane is only going to move in a swap + cash deal, and Neymar would ONLY go to RM or more likely, Barca) and are wanted by EVERYONE (even teams who cannot afford them)¨ the ones in red are off the list AFTER next summer as they will be 30yo by spring 2022 (and Varane who will be a 29yo CB for the 2022 summer list, and I take 29yo CB's off, like I did with KK) Neymar (only RM or Barca) Mane Salah Sancho HÃ¥land (and will not move I think until summer 2021 or summer 2022) Havertz Lautaro Martinez Saúl ÑÃguez (and Atletico are being cray about his release clause) Varane (only way I can see him moving is via a swap for a HUGE player) summer 2021 is his last time on the list, as no one is going to spend £100m on a 29yo CB in summer 2022 (he turns 30yo early spring 2023) Oblak (only 3 teams I can see him moving to are us, Manure, or PSG, as Barca, RM, Shitty are set at GK and Bayern and Juve cannot afford him atm) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said: Fuck knows. Regardless, It is like 2 weeks extra and they will not go all the way to the final, it will be fine... EL schedule they are one of 6 teams you have to say would be called favourites to win, (soon 5 as Sevilla and Roma have to play each other, which is fucked up when you look at the bottom of that side's bracket, BaÅŸakÅŸehir v Copenhagen ) BUT Leverkusen will more than likely play my number one pick (Inter, who I have beating Manure or Sevilla (as long as they get their GKer Tomas VaclÃk back, without him they may even lose to Roma) in the final) in the next round Ä°stanbul BaÅŸakÅŸehir (a.e.t.)   1   4   5    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 You think he might be taking the #10 then? killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Artandur said: You think he might be taking the #10 then? Give Havertz #8. Let Pulisic take the #10. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jason said: Give Havertz #8. Let Pulisic take the #10. If it means we can get rid of Barkley i'm all over it 1chelsea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChelseaFanUK 1,014 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 11 hours ago, Pizy said: Weird how silent Honigstein has been today. Couple of days ago he tweeted that Havertz wasn't even close to any move, that nothing was decided, and that nothing would be decided any time soon. Now we see a bunch of reputable sources today saying he has made his mind up to come here, agreed personal terms, and even spoken to Frank. Wonder which is true... Honigstein always comes across as bitter when top players leave Bundesliga for England. He always tries to shoot the rumours down or speak negative about them. But a top player linked to Bundesliga from England, he's all positive and says he can see it happening  Seems to me he is a little out of the loop on this Havertz deal. Atomiswave, Supermonkey92 and Vesper 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Honigstein always comes across as bitter when top players leave Bundesliga for England. He always tries to shoot the rumours down or speak negative about them. But a top player linked to Bundesliga from England, he's all positive and says he can see it happening  Seems to me he is a little out of the loop on this Havertz deal. We've STOLEN Werner and Havertz in the same window lol. Let's get Klostermann and start a German revolution!Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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