Mikel John Obi

[didierforever 7,349]

Every game I remember when mikel came, we lost the lead and drew or lost...

thats weird

sporting - 15min cameo - 0-1 win

everton - 10min cameo - 3-6 win (it was 3-5 when he came on)

burnley - 10min cameo - 1-3 (1-3 when he came on)

city - 27min - 1-1 (0-0 when he came on)

villa - 13min - 3-0

arsenal - 21 min - 2-0

manu - 23min - 1-1 (1-0 when he came on)

spurs - 14min - 3-0

whu - 10min - 2-0

villa - 17min - 1-2 win (1-2 when he came on)

palace - 45min - 1-0

all in all, there were 2 matches where we conceded after mikel was brought on.

city match, a mistake by schurrle, united match iva got a red and a goal from set piece.

infact we dint lose a single match and drew just once (since the score was 0-0 in the city match when he got subbed in)

so........

[Oscar 441]

thats weird

sporting - 15min cameo - 0-1 win

everton - 10min cameo - 3-6 win (it was 3-5 when he came on)

burnley - 10min cameo - 1-3 (1-3 when he came on)

city - 27min - 1-1 (0-0 when he came on)

villa - 13min - 3-0

arsenal - 21 min - 2-0

manu - 23min - 1-1 (1-0 when he came on)

spurs - 14min - 3-0

whu - 10min - 2-0

villa - 17min - 1-2 win (1-2 when he came on)

palace - 45min - 1-0

all in all, there were 2 matches where we conceded after mikel was brought on.

city match, a mistake by schurrle, united match iva got a red and a goal from set piece.

infact we dint lose a single match and drew just once (since the score was 0-0 in the city match when he got subbed in)

so........

Essentially, when mikel is introduced all attacking instincts go out the door and we park the bus hoping and praying that Thibo going to save us........

And yea the city and united games were the top of my head, but a few times, he was introduced and if it chaos...

So, unless your betting on Thibo to save us everytime, Mikel is not and should not be an option. He can do one thing well, play as dm/cb when the bus in park and even than, I don't think he plays that well. Jose already had a better dm on the first team and he loaned him.

[didierforever 7,349]

Essentially, when mikel is introduced all attacking instincts go out the door and we park the bus hoping and praying that Thibo going to save us........

And yea the city and united games were the top of my head, but a few times, he was introduced and if it chaos...

So, unless your betting on Thibo to save us everytime, Mikel is not and should not be an option. He can do one thing well, play as dm/cb when the bus in park and even than, I don't think he plays that well. Jose already had a better dm on the first team and he loaned him.

so courtois saved us in 10 off those 11 instances?

thats strange. but since the numbers are good enough, i will go for it.

united game - we were totally in charge. we had the game by the scruff of its neck only for iva to fuck it up.

city game - if you think, chelsea getting dominated by a man down city is mikel's fault, then i have nothing to say to u.

who is this DM exactly that we are talking about?

[stroey 2,525]

thats weird

sporting - 15min cameo - 0-1 win

everton - 10min cameo - 3-6 win (it was 3-5 when he came on)

burnley - 10min cameo - 1-3 (1-3 when he came on)

city - 27min - 1-1 (0-0 when he came on)

villa - 13min - 3-0

arsenal - 21 min - 2-0

manu - 23min - 1-1 (1-0 when he came on)

spurs - 14min - 3-0

whu - 10min - 2-0

villa - 17min - 1-2 win (1-2 when he came on)

palace - 45min - 1-0

all in all, there were 2 matches where we conceded after mikel was brought on.

city match, a mistake by schurrle, united match iva got a red and a goal from set piece.

infact we dint lose a single match and drew just once (since the score was 0-0 in the city match when he got subbed in)

so........

Saved me some work here, wanted to post the same thing.

[Jase 43,479]

Essentially, when mikel is introduced all attacking instincts go out the door and we park the bus hoping and praying that Thibo going to save us........

And yea the city and united games were the top of my head, but a few times, he was introduced and if it chaos...

So, unless your betting on Thibo to save us everytime, Mikel is not and should not be an option. He can do one thing well, play as dm/cb when the bus in park and even than, I don't think he plays that well. Jose already had a better dm on the first team and he loaned him.

I don't know if you are trying to be a troll here or just being a Mikel hater but if you are gonna blame someone for that, then look at the man who's making all the decisions on the sidelines - Mourinho.

It's fine that people don't rate Mikel but it's just plain stupid people blame him for practically everything whenever something bad happens on the pitch, even when he's not at fault for anything at all.

[robsblubot 3,502]

I don't know if you are trying to be a troll here or just being a Mikel hater but if you are gonna blame someone for that, then look at the man who's making all the decisions on the sidelines - Mourinho.

It's fine that people don't rate Mikel but it's just plain stupid people blame him for practically everything whenever something bad happens on the pitch, even when he's not at fault for anything at all.

true... one out of eleven...

However it's just as silly to say he's useful because he does a job (close out a game) when a vast number of players are capable of doing the same: the so called defensive midfielders.

Honestly, for 75K reckon we could do better than Mikel... other clubs have better options on the bench.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

true... one out of eleven...

However it's just as silly to say he's useful because he does a job (close out a game) when a vast number of players are capable of doing the same: the so called defensive midfielders.

Honestly, for 75K reckon we could do better than Mikel... other clubs have better options on the bench.

75K/Wk is not at all a lot now. Josh McEachran makes 40K/Wk. Very hard to find players as good as Mikel in Europe's top divisions who earn more. Also, Mikel costs nothing on amortized fees because he's been here for ages. He's currently our second least expensive first team player on our books after only Salah (if he stays).

Financially, Mikel is great for the club.

[Oscar 441]

I don't know if you are trying to be a troll here or just being a Mikel hater but if you are gonna blame someone for that, then look at the man who's making all the decisions on the sidelines - Mourinho.

It's fine that people don't rate Mikel but it's just plain stupid people blame him for practically everything whenever something bad happens on the pitch, even when he's not at fault for anything at all.

I blamed jose multiple times for his ultra defensive tactics, but Mikel as a player what does he bring?

He's already in his prime and playing out of position here. Probably has lost motivation as a football player and needs a change of scenery.

[Unionjack 7,531]

Yes the guys cheap and I'll put my hands up and say hes had some good games but I'd upgrade him in a minute if we could.

And I find that weird. You would think that a player thats got well over 300 appearances would be adored by us all but theres never been that sort of relationship with him.

We have used him when we have had that 1 goal advantage, brought him on to 'close the game out' but theres been times eg like Citeh and Utd away, that its totally backfired with them both scoring at the end.

With the style of play we have had lately he doesnt really fit. We do have a good balance MF with Cescy/Matic and with Oscar dropping back at times has helped alot. But hes no help at all going forwards. At least Rami is a dynamo full of energy and running.

We need to try to sell him and put the money into a good BtoB player. make our MF perfic.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

And I find that weird. You would think that a player thats got well over 300 appearances would be adored by us all but theres never been that sort of relationship with him.

That says more about our own supporters thank Mikel, tbh. We're talking about a guy who's helped us win literally everything, from EPLs to FA cups to league cups to a CL and an EL. Since he's arrived here he's played in every cup final except the EL final in 2013 and the League Cup final this season which he was not available for.

For me, personally, Mikel is only below JT, Zola, Cech and Drogba and on par with the likes of Ash, and Lampard. I don't own many original Chelsea shirts but I have the 2012/13 blue and gold shirt with Mikel on the back to commemorate his performance in the CL final.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Yes the guys cheap and I'll put my hands up and say hes had some good games but I'd upgrade him in a minute if we could.

And I find that weird. You would think that a player thats got well over 300 appearances would be adored by us all but theres never been that sort of relationship with him.

We have used him when we have had that 1 goal advantage, brought him on to 'close the game out' but theres been times eg like Citeh and Utd away, that its totally backfired with them both scoring at the end.

With the style of play we have had lately he doesnt really fit. We do have a good balance MF with Cescy/Matic and with Oscar dropping back at times has helped alot. But hes no help at all going forwards. At least Rami is a dynamo full of energy and running.

We need to try to sell him and put the money into a good BtoB player. make our MF perfic.

I agree. If closing out a game then Zouma can do that, and RLC can start coming in if we need more steel in midfield, and he's simply not good enough as a pure backup to Matic. We might as well play a CB (see: Zouma\ in front of the CBs if Matic is out/rested over Mikel, although that's not the most desirable of alternatives.

[Unionjack 7,531]

For me, personally, Mikel is only below JT, Zola, Cech and Drogba and on par with the likes of Ash, and Lampard. I don't own many original Chelsea shirts but I have the 2012/13 blue and gold shirt with Mikel on the back to commemorate his performance in the CL final.

You putting him on par with Lamps might just say more about you than the many among us who wouldn't mind if Mikel was with us or not

[CHOULO19 24,332]

You putting him on par with Lamps might just say more about you than the many among us who wouldn't mind if Mikel was with us or not

To be fair to Frank, yeah he did lie to all Chelsea fans and put on a huge play, and yeah he did always put his best interest ahead of the club's and the supporters' unlike Mikel who (till now) has always been loyal to the club and fans, but Frank did play A HUGE part in a lot of our success so yeah, I'd still put him on par with Mikel. Call me a glory hunter for it if you want...

[robsblubot 3,502]

That says more about our own supporters thank Mikel, tbh. We're talking about a guy who's helped us win literally everything, from EPLs to FA cups to league cups to a CL and an EL. Since he's arrived here he's played in every cup final except the EL final in 2013 and the League Cup final this season which he was not available for.

For me, personally, Mikel is only below JT, Zola, Cech and Drogba and on par with the likes of Ash, and Lampard. I don't own many original Chelsea shirts but I have the 2012/13 blue and gold shirt with Mikel on the back to commemorate his performance in the CL final.

interesting point on the finance as many here care so much about Roman's money - point taken. I don't (care about wages and the like), but I know some here do and that's why i mentioned his wages.

I'd be very content in offering one of the many DMs who are far superior to Mikel 100k+ for a rotation role. The clubs who win the CL do have expensive players sitting on the bench. And they don't have a player as simple and pedantic on the ball as Mikel is.

On a personal note, I just don't enjoy watching him play. One of the most boring players I've ever seen play the game.

On a more serious note, isn't it a bit delusional to expect to compete in CL without the spending of our opponents?

[Unionjack 7,531]

To be fair to Frank, yeah he did lie to all Chelsea fans and put on a huge play, and yeah he did always put his best interest ahead of the club's and the supporters' unlike Mikel who (till now) has always been loyal to the club and fans, but Frank did play A HUGE part in a lot of our success so yeah, I'd still put him on par with Mikel. Call me a glory hunter for it if you want...

He wasnt that loyal to us at the time he joined us. I remember that court case that went on in Norway wasn't it? All that palava with him holding that shirt up and United saying they signed him and we had paid for his education and talk about being forced by mafia types. Then in court it came out Mikel was crying on the day he signed with us because he had his heart set on Utd.

As for Lamps well I really still dont know what the whole crack is. Mou said he was offered along with Cole the same contract as JT was.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

As I expected, Jose has blocked Mikel's exit and wants him to stay: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33477349

[lucio 5,418]

As I expected, Jose has blocked Mikel's exit and wants him to stay: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33477349

As long as ramires goes.

[scargo 75]

Finally Jose is crazy