Coronaviral

[cosmicway 1,323]

Some of you ppl are crazy.
Even a terminal cancer patient who dies from covid complications is covid. What else can it be ?
But as such a patient probably has only a few months to live anyway and these cases are infrequent, its acedemic to talk about it.
This man crazy as he was was in perfect health ten days ago and the virus killed him.

Now I read that his doctor was Chris Zoupas, a famous diabetologist and former basket ball legend. Zoupas says he was trying for months to convince him to get vaccinated but he was evading him. He also says that he and his friends were laughing at the virus and were not taking precautions.

Edited December 14, 2021 by cosmicway

[Fulham Broadway 16,852]

16 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

You have been bullied to it.....or coerced. They are both the same at the end of the day. Here is the doctor in SA I mentioned ealier who just did an interview on the new super duper omnicron.

 

Interesting what she says - 'no matter how many times in South Africa we have stressed Omnicron is a mild disease, other World leaders ignore us' 

But  she also says elderly and compromised immune systems like the people  @cosmicway was mentioning, need to be protected. Makes sense that they are immunised. Sounds like a shitty flu virus.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,479]

I am diabetic and covid plays very nasty with diabetics so I was quick to get the vaccines and booster. Diabetics have internal organ imbalances to begin with, the covid spiral is very fast. A normal person would fight off the effects before the spiral of internal organs failing would happen, diabetics are already close to the spiral when they first contact the virus. As many concerts and theme parks as we have been, I have no doubt that I have been in contact with the virus and the vaccine is doing its job.

[Warning_Hazard 156]

1 hour ago, cosmicway said:

Some of you ppl are crazy.
Even a terminal cancer patient who dies from covid complications is covid. What else can it be ?
But as such a patient probably has only a few months to live anyway and these cases are infrequent, its acedemic to talk about it.
This man crazy as he was was in perfect health ten days ago and the virus killed him.

Now I read that his doctor was Chris Zoupas, a famous diabetologist and former basket ball legend. Zoupas says he was trying for months to convince him to get vaccinated but he was evading him. He also says that he and his friends were laughing at the virus and were not taking precautions.

The point is even the vunrable with full vaccine programs are still dying and there are plenty of alternatives, Ofc youre right when you said about foolish not to go with the vaccine if your life is at risk but that is a very small part of society, Normal healthy people 50k alone in the US have died or now dealing with permanent damage just from the vaccines, its nuts.

Rona is also not asymptomatic and you cant catch it twice atleast very rare, The lft's cannot define between flu and rona!

Edited December 14, 2021 by Warning_Hazard

[Atomiswave 6,072]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Interesting what she says - 'no matter how many times in South Africa we have stressed Omnicron is a mild disease, other World leaders ignore us' 

But  she also says elderly and compromised immune systems like the people  @cosmicway was mentioning, need to be protected. Makes sense that they are immunised. Sounds like a shitty flu virus.

Yup exactly mate....so you must ask yourself why are they doing this? What else have they done which is obvious in it self. You have 99,8% of surviving this thing. The funny part is they havent even isolated the virus, no video or anything or a process can be found regarding this, and you cant make a vax without isolating the damn thing and it takes time.

[cosmicway 1,323]

I believe we have a fairly good idea now of situations in which the vaccine is not advised.
I have infront of me the paper I signed in the hospital (in fact I pilfered lots of them for scrap paper) and it mentions 10-12 diseases.
My answers were no-no-no and no but the diseases are writen on the paper.
So the anti-vaxers have little justification for their attitude.

[Warning_Hazard 156]

41 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

I believe we have a fairly good idea now of situations in which the vaccine is not advised.
I have infront of me the paper I signed in the hospital (in fact I pilfered lots of them for scrap paper) and it mentions 10-12 diseases.
My answers were no-no-no and no but the diseases are writen on the paper.
So the anti-vaxers have little justification for their attitude.

There so much justification for not wanting this particular vaccine unless youre at deaths door, Triple vax only offers 70% protection and the vaccine from broad stats has only reduced deaths by like 1%, its wild if you get into the weeds!

Big pharma yoinking the tax payer and the politicians are helping!

It takes years over 10 to fully verify forms of meds and in the US that doc had a great point about how none of the vaccines are even officially approved by the corrupt FDA! Everyone is trying to dodge law suits

 

Similar to the opiod farce by looks of it at this point where all the damage is ignored for the diminshing benefits.

Edited December 14, 2021 by Warning_Hazard

[Atomiswave 6,072]

49 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

I believe we have a fairly good idea now of situations in which the vaccine is not advised.
I have infront of me the paper I signed in the hospital (in fact I pilfered lots of them for scrap paper) and it mentions 10-12 diseases.
My answers were no-no-no and no but the diseases are writen on the paper.
So the anti-vaxers have little justification for their attitude.

Plenty of justification, I decide what goes in my body, you decide what you do with yours. We dont know the long term effects yet. I dont trust the elites experts one bit.....when the media invites other experts whom say the opposite of their experts then I judge again. But they wont and never will, they are not interested in showing the other side of the coin, why? I repeat, the pioneer of mRNA said the vax makes you not being able to have kids, over 40K women went infertile after getting the jab in India, the shit is not fit for humans, phizer and moderna are 2 of the worst companies with a huge wrap-sheet.  It fucks your heart up, it makes spike protein which is not good at all and etc. You can believe what you want, I believe what I want. Here watch this and pay great attention at 18:30.

https://cdn.lbryplayer.xyz/api/v4/streams/free/Do-CELEBRITIES-Have-BLOOD-ON-THEIR-HANDS-Hugo-Talks--lockdown2/523a90e1db73b5394ca9986430d0b7f704b4bced/e4d9b9

[MoroccanBlue 5,302]

3 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Yup exactly mate....so you must ask yourself why are they doing this? What else have they done which is obvious in it self. You have 99,8% of surviving this thing. 

The issue isn't the death toll, its the overcrowding of hospitals and the endless hours of medical staff and understaffing. 

Since you are so against this vaccine, what do you propose will end the overcrowding of hospitals of unvaccinated people contracting COVID, which is still a continuous major issue? Should hospitals just refuse to take those that are unvaccinated in to "learn their lesson"? 

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by MoroccanBlue

[Atomiswave 6,072]

9 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The issue isn't the death toll, its the overcrowding of hospitals and the endless hours of medical staff and understaffing. 

Since you are so against this vaccine, what do you propose will end the overcrowding of hospitals of unvaccinated people contracting COVID, which is still a continuous major issue? Should hospitals just refuse to take those that are unvaccinated in to "learn their lesson"? 

 

Go back pages and see the vid about your overcrowded hospitals, they are so overcrowded that the hospital staff all over the world danced their asses all day of boredom and upped it to the net. Dont sit in front of your tele and eat all their shit up. TV2 news of Denmark said 2 weeks ago that all hospitals here were super busy, we went there and it was almost a zombie hospital, they had nothing to do. you want it you take it. I for one wont touch it. Lesson? Come back in 1 year and we will talk about the lesson.

This is the first time in history where the ineffectiveness of a vax is blamed on those whom havent taken it.....unbelievable.

[nyikolajevics 2,577]

Scheduled to go to Oman this Sunday.. I am quite worried regulations will change.. Since last March, I had two cancel two private and two business trip because of this shit..

[MoroccanBlue 5,302]

7 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Go back pages and see the vid about your overcrowded hospitals, they are so overcrowded that the hospital staff all over the world danced their asses all day of boredom and upped it to the net. Dont sit in front of your tele and eat all their shit up.

Yeah. Think I'm done here.

From someone who's worked in healthcare for 8 years and who has a wife and cousin that have both been in the front lines since the pandemic began, I will not waste my time to entertain your unhinged conspiracy theory. 

 

[cosmicway 1,323]

Extraordinary.
Some persits even now !
The antivax party leader died from covid -I don't know if it made the news over there- and some still persist.
It's madness.
I 've seen many kinds of collective madness but suicidal madness no.

 

[NikkiCFC 7,953]

Antivax is just a small group tho. A couple of %. Majority people are not getting vaccinated because they are young and feel safe. Argument you are protecting others is gone since everyone protect themself with vaccine and can still spread it. In my country around 60% are vaccinated but from 18 to 35 years old just 4%. Death rate is 0.96% and this is with all old people who died from Covid so for younger groups is significantly lower. So younger groups really dont see reasonable explanation to get vaccine. If they are in 60s, 70s majority would get vaccine because they would feel vulnerable. 

Craziest part is Covid certificate. Scenario: You are vaccinated and positive on Covid, you can go to clubs, concerts to spread virus, no one cares, but if you are not vaccinated you are not allowed to go because there is a small chance that you may have it lol

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,302]

11 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Craziest part is Covid certificate. Scenario: You are vaccinated and positive on Covid, you can go to clubs, concerts to spread virus, no one cares, but if you are not vaccinated you are not allowed to go because there is a small chance that you may have it lol

They aren't allowed to go because there is a high chance they will contract it. All of these restrictions are to protect the unvaccinated now. 

The unvaccinated person isn't allowed in because they would then be mingling with people who are vaccinated and could have the virus and inadvertently spread it to the person that isn't vaccinated. 

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by MoroccanBlue

[cosmicway 1,323]

About the antivax etc mob.
Are they mostly righties or lefties, what do you think ?
Here in Greece I see both types.
The crazy right wingers who are making sitins inside churches, to protest for the measures against crowding. Also sometimes they smash cellular phones with hammers "to kill the devil Bill Gates residing in them".
The lefties are doing similar things.
This morning I was downtown and I saw lots of political posters with antivax-anticertificate messages. They were from various left wing wordpress blogs all of them.
Only one poster was orthodox left wing and it said "bring 2000 more bus drivers to avoid congestion in the buses". All the others were lefty loonie.

 

Edited December 15, 2021 by cosmicway

[Tomo 21,733]

19 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Go back pages and see the vid about your overcrowded hospitals, they are so overcrowded that the hospital staff all over the world danced their asses all day of boredom and upped it to the net. Dont sit in front of your tele and eat all their shit up. TV2 news of Denmark said 2 weeks ago that all hospitals here were super busy, we went there and it was almost a zombie hospital, they had nothing to do. you want it you take it. I for one wont touch it. Lesson? Come back in 1 year and we will talk about the lesson.

This is the first time in history where the ineffectiveness of a vax is blamed on those whom havent taken it.....unbelievable.

I'm a little confused. At the start you were so frightened about this thing you were adamant football shouldn't even restart, what's changed?

[Warning_Hazard 156]

I love how when experts, data and peer reviewed papers back up many 'conspiracy theorys' people and the media get all political and make ridiculous claims to try and back their narrative instead of rely on the truth, whatever truth that may be.

Science is the world of the unknown, it will take over 10 years for these drugs to be fully researched maybe less as they are turbo charging it all etc.

Im not anti vax at all, just a man of data and science.

Science is not a fixed subject, constantly changing

Einstiens Relatively probably isnt the answer we just dont have anything better yet etc.

Edited December 16, 2021 by Warning_Hazard