Popular Post! Vesper 30,207 Posted August 8, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Exactly. I remember the afternoon when Werner news breakthrough I felt so euphoric. No Chelsea game this season gave me that feeling. the Gilmour game where we dominated and beat the dippers Strike, Johnnyeye, communicate and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: Kepa is called worst goalkeeper in the history, Rudiger amateur defender, Alonso and Jorginho also horrible and pathetic defenders and without all of them we conceded 4. This is our reality and we can not blame individuals for being so shit defensively. If not individually, what do we blame it on? Except for the 1st goal, rest all were individual errors. 2nd goal: Kova 3rd goal: Defending 101 by emerson 4th goal: Defending 201 by emerson (If you are getting outjumped atleast fucking back into the striker, dont bloody just stand there). I didnt see a "system" issue today. killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: the Gilmour game where we dominated and beat the dippers That was great too. And Everton 4:0 just a couple of days later. But Frank never used this lineup again. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, killer1257 said: While I agree a little bit. Don't you think that AC is as bad as Rüdiger if not even more? Caba is horrible too. Emerson played a good first half, but then played bad in the second half. Hardly an improvement right now. Barkley is worse than Jorgi. Way worse Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk a fit, pre-injury form Rudiger is the best CB we have atm damning indictment but ZERO chance Zouma and Ac or Tomori are better than a pre injury Rudiger some people bring in previous hate for him from the German end (or that is at least what I see) I never had much issue with him until thsi season, when he came back, I liked him as a player, and I loved his attitude before that he was fine (not as a leading WC CB, but a more than adequate partner of such a player) killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,331 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Puliiszola said: If not individually, what do we blame it on? Except for the 1st goal, rest all were individual errors. 2nd goal: Kova 3rd goal: Defending 101 by emerson 4th goal: Defending 201 by emerson (If you are getting outjumped atleast fucking back into the striker, dont bloody just stand there). I didnt see a "system" issue today. 3rd and 4th goal are definitely not only on Emerson. He is pathetic defender but Odraziola had walk in the park for that cross and midfielders should clearly track Thiago and his movement into the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Puliiszola said: If not individually, what do we blame it on? Except for the 1st goal, rest all were individual errors. 2nd goal: Kova 3rd goal: Defending 101 by emerson 4th goal: Defending 201 by emerson (If you are getting outjumped atleast fucking back into the striker, dont bloody just stand there). I didnt see a "system" issue today. no error on the on the first goal??? LOLOLOL AC completely , COMPLETELY switched off and let the world's best striker just jog straight on though on the 2nd goal Kova was fouled (blatantly) by Muller on the build-up, and no call DDA, killer1257 and Johnnyeye 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Vesper said: no error on the on the first goal??? LOLOLOL AC completely , COMPLETELY switched off and let the world's best striker just jog straight on though on the 2nd goal Kova was fouled (blatantly) by Muller on the build-up, and no call Did not pin the 1st goal on anyone, as so early in the game, our mid should not have been that open. It was like Knife cutting through butter. I would put it more in "System" than a personal mistake. DDA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said: 3rd and 4th goal are definitely not only on Emerson. He is pathetic defender but Odraziola had walk in the park for that cross and midfielders should clearly track Thiago and his movement into the box. Obviously every goal cant be pinned on just one person unless you do a varane. But, a major portion of those goals have to be blamed on emerson. Any half decent. I mean not chilwell or reguilon, but even ryan bertrand could have prevented that. Vesper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 this team makes my head spin we have the world's most complicated situation due to chaos and uncertainty on every level stadium (and owner still in legal purgatory over status to come into the UK and thus hesitant to invest in physical plant structure) thsi crushes us long-term revenue wise compare to other big 15, or so global clubs, especially if they all sort out their stadiums issues (the ones who have them) £500m plus worth of dregs that are all SO hard to move (or if not outright dregs players who need to go go go) crazy amount of youth, that in itself comes with huge upsides AND downsides a now 2nd year (as of the final whistle blow tonight) year manager who seems a genius at some things, and clueless at others (subs, tactics on occasion (either he is brilliant or is bizarre), defence, and set pieces CRAZY GK situ due to Kepa collapse and his tying up £140m en toto atm Kante as weight around our necks most of the time due to injury after injury and not fitting into a proper role due to our tactical schemes, plus he is ageing and haemorrhaging value quickly Willian ass-fucking us by not taking the (more, MORE than generous 2 year deal) thus forcing us to probably have to spend at winger thsi window crazy bad systemic injury plague killing us HUGE lack of leaders on the pitch probably some other things too, lolol Atomiswave and Muzchap 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Maybe hire him as our defensive coach [emoji23]Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit TapatalkCheck out what Steve Clarke is doing lol Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,207 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Supermonkey92 said: Check out what Steve Clarke is doing lol Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk manager of the Scotland national team killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 manager of the Scotland national teamFfsSent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk killer1257 and Vesper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Eight years ago the greatest night in our history tonight it was like going back to Anfield in the 80's where you knew we had no chance of winning just hoping it wouldn't be a total embarrassment. How many goals have we conceded in all competitions this season we conceded the same number of goals in the league as Brighton that's unacceptable but of course it's all down to the transfer ban, having to the play the youngsters ad fucking nauseum. A 70 million keeper, an established German international someone who had a successful loan at Everton a club legend at right back looking fucking clueless the buck stops with one person and one person only. Laylabelle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Such bland uninspiring bollocks tear the fuck into them Mourinho would have done . The sort of thing he would have said if he was still working for BT. Chelsea boss Frank Lampard: "Nights like this in a footballing sense, show me a lot, tell me a lot. "In a football sense I feel like I know where we can improve, so now it's time to look at that. "I saw lots of good things in the team and also some of the bad we have seen this season. We had individual errors that gave them goals and at this level that will finish you off. "We want more but the feeling is we have achieved something with the group we have. Now is the time to think where we can improve." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supermonkey92 1,428 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Such bland uninspiring bollocks tear the fuck into them Mourinho would have done . The sort of thing he would have said if he was still working for BT. Chelsea boss Frank Lampard: "Nights like this in a footballing sense, show me a lot, tell me a lot. "In a football sense I feel like I know where we can improve, so now it's time to look at that. "I saw lots of good things in the team and also some of the bad we have seen this season. We had individual errors that gave them goals and at this level that will finish you off. "We want more but the feeling is we have achieved something with the group we have. Now is the time to think where we can improve."Its starting to piss me off that every goal conceded gets dismissed as individual errors as though the structure of the team as whole is legit but one or two stupid errors let them in. Nah mate. They were passing the ball straight through. As did Arsenal. And Liverpool. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Atomiswave, Iggy Doonican and Strike 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Supermonkey92 said: Its starting to piss me off that every goal conceded gets dismissed as individual errors as though the structure of the team as whole is legit but one or two stupid errors let them in. Nah mate. They were passing the ball straight through. As did Arsenal. And Liverpool. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Well said son but shh you're not allowed to question a legend. And you make a good point three games three defeats eleven goals conceded but that's ok there will be a massive turnaround next year when all our defensive frailties will be completely eradicated by a manager whose teams have conceded over 100 goals in two seasons in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Vesper said: no error on the on the first goal??? LOLOLOL AC completely , COMPLETELY switched off and let the world's best striker just jog straight on though on the 2nd goal Kova was fouled (blatantly) by Muller on the build-up, and no call To be fair, he Zouma and James had played him offside. It was Emerson two yards behind the line that allowed him through. A few times this year, I have noticed AC step up to play offside but then have some other idiot completely in the wrong place to play someone onside (normally one of the LB's or his CB partner. Puliiszola 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 3 hours ago, King Kante said: To be fair, he Zouma and James had played him offside. It was Emerson two yards behind the line that allowed him through. A few times this year, I have noticed AC step up to play offside but then have some other idiot completely in the wrong place to play someone onside (normally one of the LB's or his CB partner. Oh yes. Emerson went to sleep on that one too. So thats 3 goals which could have been avoided by a decent LB, but obviously (according to a few geniuses on here), it's a whole "systematic failure" and lampards' fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Strike 7,492 Posted August 9, 2020 Popular Post! Share Posted August 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Puliiszola said: Oh yes. Emerson went to sleep on that one too. So thats 3 goals which could have been avoided by a decent LB, but obviously (according to a few geniuses on here), it's a whole "systematic failure" and lampards' fault 54 goals in a league season is not down to individual failures kellzfresh, Johnnyeye, Thesara and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Strike said: 54 goals in a league season is not down to individual failures Did Klopp or pep change their systems from their first seasons? Or did better defenders which suited their system make the team better? Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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