closed Kawasaki Frontale 1-0 Chelsea

[Hutcho 8,443]

disjointed performance
typical preseason
we have so many players to sort through
 
the good
Bats 
Pedro
Jorginho
Mount
Barkely was best player on the pitch when he came in
Giroud looked dangerous, he is going to be our starter I think, at Manure
Kenedy was horrid the first 15, 20, then really came on, nice surprise, should have scored, but ht to their GK
Pulisic looked bright, barely played
Kovacic same as Kenedy, but not quite the impact
Wille looked oki
AC
Luiz great passing, meh defence
Azpi
Zappacosta (another surprise, very aggressive, far more dangerous than Azpi, he has been really good his last few games)
Emerson
 
the bad
Zouma (bad on the ball, didnt play well with Luiz)
Alonso (looks as slow as I recall, lol)
Drinkwater (he just looks so so rusty)
Bakayoko (horrid, will not fit in here, we need to sell him)
Palmer (no end product, not horrid, just meh)
 
 
 
 
 

Cool. Well at least there was some good performances. Some of the bad will be eradicated by a better team and hopefully the good will shine through

KTBFFH

[Vesper 30,193]

We really miss

Kante

Rudiger (maybe worse than Kante)

RLC

Kepa

 

CHO is a hard call, as he has played so little, BUT

we need him and Willian both, badly as we are so short of wingers

 

Lamps will sort it

I can see what he is doing with the lineups and the formation experiments

 

biggest thing for me

is GET RUDIGER BACK

Zouma has been a big disappointment

looks in shape, but his play on the ball is BAD

and like Luiz, he make mental errors

I wish Tomori would have played half the game

we all know what Luiz can do

 

 

 

[Vesper 30,193]

1 minute ago, Hutcho said:

Cool. Well at least there was some good performances. Some of the bad will be eradicated by a better team and hopefully the good will shine through

KTBFFH

I m resigned to Alonso being our b/u LB as Juan Famila-Castillo didnt even travel, nor did Baba

but ffs, we simply must sell Drinkwater and Bakayoko

they are bad players, offer nothing

 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

My impressions;

Still very impressed with Mount, more impressed this game that he plays bigger than his body should afford. He positioned himself well for contact and came away from it in control.

The midfield looked strong in the first half and went to crap with all the subs in the second half. In the second half there was a lot of jogging in the middle but not improving your position to receive the ball and once it was received it seemed like only then were some players thinking about where it should go. The second half for the midfield should decide a few loans or selling of players. It is difficult to get much from Pulisic as he wasn't in much. He looked quick and decisive, he also worked well when he didn't have the ball to be in position for a pass and knew where he was going. If that was a real game there would have been a penalty when the Kawasaki player just threw his leg out to attempt to trip him.

There was good play from the attacking positions, just not good finishes. I thought for sure Kennedy would score. There were some really good passes to players going forward to attack the goal.

It is a game that Chelsea had control of and could not finish good passes. In that sense it was frustrating to watch all the way through.

From a preseason aspect, I think it really did show who needs to be on the squad and who needs to play somewhere else.

 

 

[DDA 9,941]

I'm confused as fuck. It says this game is on Saturday. Have i missed it?? Wtf is going on??

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

26 minutes ago, DDA said:

I'm confused as fuck. It says this game is on Saturday. Have i missed it?? Wtf is going on??

It may have been Saturday Japan time....I can never remember the time difference with Japan in the US. It is weird.

 

ETA it is 10:40pm Friday in Japan right now, so it could not have been Saturday.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

Like I said a few weeks back, I’m more confident in Tomori being a success here than Zouma. Under a progressive manager at least. 

Team needs the fat trimmed 

[Tomo 21,751]

3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Like I said a few weeks back, I’m more confident in Tomori being a success here than Zouma. Under a progressive manager at least. 

Team needs the fat trimmed 

Unfortunately Lampard's confirmed he wants Zouma to stay.

[Tomo 21,751]

2 hours ago, !Hazard! said:

Drinkayoko. Hopefully the last time we'll ever see of them

Tbh I don't think Danny was particularly that bad from an individual perspective, he just doesn't have the skillset to dominate a midfield battle the way Jorginho and Kovacic were doing and that's before we mention he came on alongside Bakayoko.

I can give or take him staying as a 4th choice filler for cup games but Bakayoko must be gone no matter what.

[Blue Armour 4,442]

Didnt even know this match existed.

I hate finding out about a Chelsea match only after it happened, and even more so when we lose it.

I will watch the Barcelona game.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

1 hour ago, DDA said:

I'm confused as fuck. It says this game is on Saturday. Have i missed it?? Wtf is going on??

It says Saturday 19th in the original post but that was just a mistake. It should have said Friday 19th.

[Costa19 858]

I dont know.. last season i could enjoy a friendly because we had a new manager with a new philosophy and we could already see big development in our playstyle in the first friendly, after 1-2 weeks in training. I havent seen anything interesting in any of our friendlys this pre-season. The only thing i see is pure struggling. I just have a really bad feeling about this season. Im afraid we even wont make top 6th. Last time i saw pure struggling in our per-season was the season where we sacked José for the second time.. 

[communicate 2,703]

4 hours ago, Tomo said:

 

Michy looks like he's majorly improved in his hold up play but going wait until the real stuff starts for a proper assessment. 

It took him 60 minutes to lose the starting job after having a brilliant pre season with us 2 years ago

[communicate 2,703]

Did we play 4231 or 433 in the 1st half? 

[DDA 9,941]

22 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

It says Saturday 19th in the original post but that was just a mistake. It should have said Friday 19th.

So the Admin/Mods of the forum actually done me a favour and allowed me to miss this below average performance and use the 2 hours of my life doing something more productive, which I did. Thanks lads.

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

The quicker Lampard realises certain players aren’t good enough, the quicker we will see improvement. 

[robsblubot 3,595]

These guys were a much stronger opponent esp for a friendly this early. Damião not long ago was starting for Brazil and rightfully so.

However, echoing what has been said, it is disappointing to see DD and esp bakayoko, doubly esp together in our midfield.

perhaps we think a buyer will show up if we play them, but why?!  

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

I am new to this team, so correct me if I am wrong. It seems teams are approaching preseason in two ways. ManU and Arsenal seem to be using it to condition many starters and evaluating more of their young players in practice. Chelsea is using the early game to evaluate as many young players and players that once showed potential to find the core of the team. I think it is pretty smart for a new manager to go this route and know that there will be lesser results than if he had more starters out there. It probably helps Lampard that he is not changing the offense much from Sarri, but just tweaking what he feels is necessary. It seems some managers have already made up their minds on young players before the preseason started.

If he has mostly starters out there for the second half of preseason and they continue to struggle, I would be concerned. I will be patient while Lampard uses games to find who he is going to trust in the regular season with his career on the line.

 

[Superblue 6,372]

3 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The quicker Lampard realises certain players aren’t good enough, the quicker we will see improvement. 

I'd expect he already has his mind made up on some and those not in his plans will be marginalised when we get back from Japan. By then the main players will be needing to get more minutes into their legs anyway.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,076]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

The quicker Lampard realises certain players aren’t good enough, the quicker we will see improvement. 

This is true. I was disappointed to read some of the headline statements attributed to Frank about chances for some players but he has the right to judge things as he sees them. We'll just have to hope that he's right.