Super Frank Thread

[communicate 2,703]

58 minutes ago, milka said:

 

A very good video. It explain in general our problem. I truly believe we are one Matic away from being competitive because we are quite complete. 

But to get from competitive to contend with city and pool that is whole another story. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,297]

3 hours ago, communicate said:

A very good video. It explain in general our problem. I truly believe we are one Matic away from being competitive because we are quite complete. 

But to get from competitive to contend with city and pool that is whole another story. 

Are you mad? Even prime 2014 Matic we are still levels away from City and Liverpool. 

[NikkiCFC 7,946]

5 hours ago, communicate said:

A very good video. It explain in general our problem. I truly believe we are one Matic away from being competitive because we are quite complete. 

But to get from competitive to contend with city and pool that is whole another story. 

Are you serious? Matic is not even good for weakest United in the last 30 years. 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[Jase 43,479]

 

[communicate 2,703]

9 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Are you serious? Matic is not even good for weakest United in the last 30 years. 

Of course I am not talking about old matic. I am talking about position and role need. 

10 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Are you mad? Even prime 2014 Matic we are still levels away from City and Liverpool. 

Is prime matic worse than fabinho and Fernandinho? 

[MoroccanBlue 5,297]

18 minutes ago, communicate said:

Of course, I am not talking about old matic. I am talking about position and role need. 

Is prime matic worse than fabinho and Fernandinho? 

No but Willian and Pedro are no where near as good as Mane, Salah, Sterling, Sane, Bernardo, and Mahrez. 

CHO and Pulisic are way too raw to even be considered. 

[communicate 2,703]

4 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

No but Willian and Pedro are no where near as good as Mane, Salah, Sterling, Sane, Bernardo, and Mahrez. 

CHO and Pulisic are way too raw to even be considered. 

I think you misunderstood my post. I said we are one matic away from being competitive but to contend with pool and city, it is whole another story. 

 

[Tomo 21,733]

8 hours ago, communicate said:

Of course I am not talking about old matic. I am talking about position and role need. 

Is prime matic worse than fabinho and Fernandinho? 

Sitting DMs are a thing of the past, pretty much all the top teams have DLPs running that area now and Frank from early evidence appears to have identified Gilmour as Jorginho's eventual replacement.

[communicate 2,703]

35 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Sitting DMs are a thing of the past, pretty much all the top teams have DLPs running that area now and Frank from early evidence appears to have identified Gilmour as Jorginho's eventual replacement.

I disagree. Fernandinho, fabinho and Rodri are not really DLP. Rodri is arguably the player that is the most comfortable on the ball of out of 3,but he is is still a big strong player. 

For me it is all about balance. You want Jorginho as holder fine, either play back 3 or ask your rb to stay back most of the time ala Sarri and you cannot play fast. You must play possession based game and he must deliver. Last year was quite boring though

If you want to play with tons of transition, Jorginho is not your guy. 

Billy Gilmour looks like a really good player, he need to get better and become really2 good so we have to compensate ala Cesc. 

 

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

Every game we have that shitty zonal marking is on him

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[Tomo 21,733]

I haven't seen the game yet but I heard we managed it really well in the second half which has pleased me as I didn't hold back on my dissatisfaction on how we pissed away the Sheffield match.

It is a really strong sign how Frank is learning from his mistakes (which are inevitable so young). As amazing as the first half hour Vs Leicester was to watch the intensity we played with had us tanked for the second half and Leicester took the piss out of us and we haven't gone full pelt since and ever since the Sheffield match we have managed winning positions a lot better.

Compared to OGS up at United who's making the same mistakes again and again and again it's so good to see Frank evolving and learning and although he doesn't have the prior CV those two did, he's showing similar early signs to what Pep and Klopp did when they came to England in terms of the encouraging football we're playing.

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

I haven't seen the game yet but I heard we managed it really well in the second half which has pleased me as I didn't hold back on my dissatisfaction on how we pissed away the Sheffield match.

It is a really strong sign how Frank is learning from his mistakes (which are inevitable so young). As amazing as the first half hour Vs Leicester was to watch the intensity we played with had us tanked for the second half and Leicester took the piss out of us and we haven't gone full pelt since and ever since the Sheffield match we have managed winning positions a lot better.

Compared to OGS up at United who's making the same mistakes again and again and again it's so good to see Frank evolving and learning and although he doesn't have the prior CV those two did, he's showing similar early signs to what Pep and Klopp did when they came to England in terms of the encouraging football we're playing.

It was a solid second half display. No nonsense defending, players cleared their lines when they needed to and didn't give up anything like they did for Southampton's goal in the first half..

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[Jase 43,479]

 

[Vesper 28,795]

Frank Lampard names the Chelsea player who was an example to his team-mates against Southampton

The Chelsea head coach was full of praise for Willian after his performance against Southampton

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/players/lampard-names-chelsea-player-example-17041751

[Vesper 28,795]

Lampard: Chelsea in a nice position but nowhere near the finished article

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/lampard-chelsea-a-nice-position-nowhere-near-finished-article

[Tomo 21,733]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

 

I'm quite a big advocate of the XG data but how on earth has it come to the conclusion United should be 3rd? They're barely even creating anything of substance.