Super Frank Thread

[Supermonkey92 1,428]

This is Lampard's defensive record as a manager:
97 games
21 clean sheets
127 goals conceded
He might not have had any world class defenders but you can only blame individuals for so long. Like you said, we weren't great defensively last season but this season, it's a whole new level of shocking! And our defence lost only Luiz last summer but saw James and Tomori added into the team. Not much difference in the choices but the collective defending has been shambolic a lot of the times!

Exactly. 2 seasons of football are showing an extremely clear pattern. It's a glaring weakness. If he stays at Chelsea he needs an assistant that can coach the defence like when we had Steve Clarke

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[Supermonkey92 1,428]

We won epl with azpi Luiz Cahill at the back. 

Conte is an amazing coach. One of the best we've ever had

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[Vytis33 1,261]

I'm not even sure how to rate these players anymore to be honest.  Every game seems like a different setup.  Think somebody said we had 9 different back lines in front of Kepa and we're ready to bin him.  Your guess is as good as mine at this point I suppose...

 

[Superblue 6,372]

I wouldn't have had a problem with Sarri staying this season if he wanted to stay, but he knew how much more difficult it was going to be this season with the transfer ban.

Take Hazard out of this side and the attacking threat and creative output drops like a dead weight. Add to that we had four long term injuries which were, or were becoming, important members of his team in Rudiger, Kante, RLC and CHO.

The possession based, more cautious approach he implemented in the second half of last season I think would have been an even bigger struggle without a player like Hazard being able to create moments out of seemingly nothing. 

He was probably fully aware that in order for us to try to cover the loss of Hazard, we'd have to have more purpose in attack and likely open ourselves up more from a defensive perspective to do so, like Lampard has. It's the same issues Lampard is having now, just he's either too stubborn or inexperienced to change things and become more cautious. Having said that and knowing how poor we've been this season defensively, now Tammy's goals have dried up and we've suffered a couple of injuries our attack looks pretty toothless too at present despite a mentality to attack. 

[Chelsea_firstlove 178]

We need a new set piece coach. 

[Henrique 9,133]

Since Mourinho was sacked after winning another PL I was so heartbroken and filled with negativity that I lost pretty much all desire to watch Chelsea games. Yeah, we had some good fun with that Conte fella and with Sarri. All decent people, but none were true blues.

But when Lampard was appointed as head coach i felt a sudden inner connection to this team again and with that Mount boy (who reminds me a lot of a younger Lampard). The connection was so strong that i immediately began supporting Lampard in a way I never thought it was possible again. I've never seen a manager lose in such a highly educated fashion. Nobody understand his tactics and team selection, but the truth is: the way he messes around with the average football viewer's IQ is just mesmerizing and out of this world. I'm staying to watch his genius intellect and incredible tactics unfold on my TV while the average football fan think mediocre managers like Pocketino and Nuno Espirito Santo are any good.

Frank has a power that i've never seen from any other manager ever and he's surely becoming a Premier League and Champions League winner one day, and if he gets fortunate enough and receive enough support from this board (f*ck you Marina) he might be the best manager ever. The sky is the limit. The way he trust in the kids and bench expensive underperforming stars is next level stuff. Thanks to him i'm now watching Chelsea games with the same passion I used to in Mourinho days. A lot of friends who completely stopped watching games after Mourinho left are watching again.

Thank you, Frank. In Frank we trust!

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

Am i really reading this from Henrique?

And oh what about having a Chelsea player as your fav

[11Drogba 2,000]

10 minutes ago, bigbluewillie said:

Am i really reading this from Henrique?

And oh what about having a Chelsea player as your fav

For a second I was like, are we in 1st of April or March?

[Jase 43,479]

6 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I wouldn't have had a problem with Sarri staying this season if he wanted to stay, but he knew how much more difficult it was going to be this season with the transfer ban.

Take Hazard out of this side and the attacking threat and creative output drops like a dead weight. Add to that we had four long term injuries which were, or were becoming, important members of his team in Rudiger, Kante, RLC and CHO.

The possession based, more cautious approach he implemented in the second half of last season I think would have been an even bigger struggle without a player like Hazard being able to create moments out of seemingly nothing. 

He was probably fully aware that in order for us to try to cover the loss of Hazard, we'd have to have more purpose in attack and likely open ourselves up more from a defensive perspective to do so, like Lampard has.

He might prove me wrong in the long run at Juventus but as it stands, it feels as though Sarri succeeded at Napoli because things fell into place there for him. He had the right players, he was at a club where they weren't expected to consistently challenge for honors and he could just go about doing his own things. Since then, he has struggled when being put in charge at bigger clubs with bigger ambition than Napoli. His limitations and flaws suddenly got exposed more under the spotlight. Remember how he always stuck with the 4-3-3 last season and his predictable Kovacic-Barkley subs? After Juventus played poorly and lost to a Lyon side that were missing half of their 1st team and were sitting 7th in Ligue 1, Sarri came out and said 'I don't know how to make the players play faster' (or something like that), which brought back memories of him saying 'I don't know how to motivate the players' last season. He has way better players at Juventus than he had here and yet, he has still struggled to implement his ideas and somehow, his side are dependent on one player again - this time it's Ronaldo. 

6 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

It's the same issues Lampard is having now, just he's either too stubborn or inexperienced to change things and become more cautious. Having said that and knowing how poor we've been this season defensively, now Tammy's goals have dried up and we've suffered a couple of injuries our attack looks pretty toothless too at present despite a mentality to attack. 

I get that every manager wants to be their own man but given that Lampard played under some of the most successful, experienced, pragmatic managers in history, it seems bizarre that he doesn't have that bit of pragmatism in him. There is no need to be playing all out attacking football, 200 miles per hour football for 90 minutes, not when the team is already vulnerable defensively. You need to know when to slow the game down and control things, even just for a few minutes and when to go for it. His defensive record as a manager already looks not great and while having better players would help, Lampard also needs to look at the way he coaches the team defensively and learn how/when to be pragmatic. He doesn't have to go to the extreme like Mourinho does but just enough to make the team streetwise and adaptable. At the moment, it feels like he's a lot more similar to the one manager he loathed than the managers he thrived under - Andre Villas-Boas. 

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

6 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

For a second I was like, are we in 1st of April or March?

OH yeah you're right mate of course i forgot that, nice one Henrique

Thought at first it was a wind up, now i'm sure it is.

[Tomo 21,751]

3 hours ago, bigbluewillie said:

Am i really reading this from Henrique?

And oh what about having a Chelsea player as your fav

I imagine it was a copy and paste from Reddit.

[Tomo 21,751]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

I get that every manager wants to be their own man but given that Lampard played under some of the most successful, experienced, pragmatic managers in history, it seems bizarre that he doesn't have that bit of pragmatism in him. 

Could be that's why he decided to become a different type of manager.

Maybe he didn't particularly like playing in that style despite winning a lot doing it and decided early on he's going down a different path as a manager. 

[Jase 43,479]

53 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Could be that's why he decided to become a different type of manager.

Maybe he didn't particularly like playing in that style despite winning a lot doing it and decided early on he's going down a different path as a manager. 

Did you actually read the whole post or just decided to quote certain part and take it out of context? 🙄

4 hours ago, Jason said:

I get that every manager wants to be their own man but given that Lampard played under some of the most successful, experienced, pragmatic managers in history, it seems bizarre that he doesn't have that bit of pragmatism in him. There is no need to be playing all out attacking football, 200 miles per hour football for 90 minutes, not when the team is already vulnerable defensively. You need to know when to slow the game down and control things, even just for a few minutes and when to go for it.

 

[Tomo 21,751]

16 minutes ago, Jason said:

Did you actually read the whole post or just decided to quote certain part and take it out of context? 🙄

 

I wasn't actually saying it was right or wrong, just saying it maybe was why he's turned more into a Pep breed of manager (in terms of preferred style of play) than a Jose.

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Tomo said:

I wasn't actually saying it was right or wrong, just saying it maybe was why he's turned more into a Pep breed of manager (in terms of preferred style of play) than a Jose.

But that's not even the point I was making!