closed Liverpool 2-0 Chelsea

[Blue Armour 4,436]

3 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Bottom line, and there's no getting away from it we're lacking a decent striker and have for quite a while now.

The one reason for me to be angry at Conte.

We struggled a lot to get a lethal striker like Costa after going through old Eto', injured Torres, Pato,etc.. And he just gets rid of him without giving much thought

[Laylabelle 9,534]

4 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Difference was Steven Gerrard gave us a goal. We also had Terry, Lampard, Cech, and Cole. 

We also use to be capable of going a goal down and coming back. This season we haven't got that.. Cardiff we came back against. Think before that it was the cup game against Liverpool.  So this result is no shock. 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Robchels said:

Or doesn’t say. Always wondered how much a barrier language can be for him.

Really? We're using language as an excuse now?

2 minutes ago, Robchels said:

we contained them in the first half with a very defensive approach. Imo it was prob the right one. I don’t like hazard as false 9 bc finishing isn’t his best attribute, so we diminish him. He still hit the post, unlucky. The second one was poor finishing tho.

what to do? Start higuain or giroud in tough away matches? They won’t get a touch. Not mobile enough.

Agree, Higuain and Giroud are just not good enough but ironically, all those Hazard came when he went to the left side after Higuain came on. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,378]

1 minute ago, Laylabelle said:

We also use to be capable of going a goal down and coming back. This season we haven't got that.. Cardiff we came back against. Think before that it was the cup game against Liverpool.  So this result is no shock. 

A lack of leadership directly contributes to poor mentality in teams. 

[Vesper 30,106]

17 minutes ago, Antonio8 said:

yes but CHO today was an absolute zero. emerson too. kovacic is worse than jorginho in every aspects imho.

the only good players of this squad are rudiger kante RLC and hazard. all the rest is a mount of average players 

CHO is not going to be a world beater every game, especially at 18, played for shit up until the past few games,  and when he is played at RW, where his strength is beat-the-man crossing (with false nine he has no targets)

the only players I would keep (in a perfect world)

are

Kepa

Rudiger

Ampadu

Emerson (backup only)

Azpi maybe (backup only)

Reece James

Kante

RLC

Eden

CHO

Tammy (see one last time if he can play in the EPL, if not, BYE BYE)

the rest need to go go go whilst we can still get cash (Luiz is gone, we are mad if we give him the 3 year extension he demands)

BUT, due to the bans and the incredible cock-ups of last two summers, we are fucked

 

 

 

[robsblubot 3,595]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

Really? We're using language as an excuse now?

Agree, Higuain and Giroud are just not good enough but ironically, all those Hazard came when he went to the left side after Higuain came on. 

You mistake me for a sarri fan. On the other hand he gets criticized regardless of what he does. Lacking the footballers lingo in English must affect his ability to connect with players me thinks.

not surprising since hazard moved to his best position, snd higuain attracted defenders.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

2 minutes ago, Blue Armour said:

We can compete, but definitely not tonight.

One team played like a title chaser, and the other played like a team just trying to sneak into top 4. Our indifferent form following that City game last year led us to this.

Chelsea, I thought played well, especially after getting rid of the false 9 formation..but a title chasing Chelsea and Hazard would have definitely buried those second half chances.

Face it, everything was against us in this game, from the stupid commentators to the media to the crowd. The Salah goal was spectacular.   We were part of some one else's narrative today, so let's just forget about this game and focus on the remaining PL and Europa games. I just hope Rudiger is back again soon.

Yeah it was everything against us. But thats to be expected when team pussies out before the match even starts. 

We defended well in first half. We managed to do that with previous managers. But there was zero determination to score against that lot. They kept attacking us and we let them. Same we did under Conte or Mou. The games in october last year, we at least tried to score. 

If Sarri isnt trying to implement that in this team, why was he even brought here?

I have no idea what Sarri tries to do. At one point he is hellbent on playing Jorginho in bid to play posession football, on the other he tries to fix it so that we dont get embarassed and he loses the job. So we end up playing bunker with Jorginho which makes no sense. 

I agree we need couple players, but even with this team, you can make them play entertaining football, althrough you can expect some heavy defeats. What we do is choke every such game and still lose. 

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

10 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Overall Liverpool is above us, but we could do much better tonight.

United is on same level as us though, but I bet we will look clueless again. "Sarriball" apparently, but they will roll all over us until they score and then we will wake up for a bit, Sarri brings on Barkley and another defeat.

I have nothing against a loss if that means development for the future and brings positive to the whole picture. What was positive here? Where were hints of "Sarriball" that will bring us to next level? Klopp was in same boat in the beggining, but at least he played entertaining football and while their defence was shite, they had clear plan forward and needed reinforcements at the back. We play like crap bar couple games and we still lose left and right or barely scrap one goal wins.

We are shit in everything. No attack plan, except for pass it to Hazard. No defensive stability because as soon they press us harder, we look completely clueless. Midfield is nonexistent and lacks any dynamic or creativity. 

We played conte esque bunker tonight. Almost whole season after Sarri arrival. Where is any development of better playstyle? And dont tell me we dont have players because Klopp managed to play entertaining football with Henderson, Moreno, Wijnaldum and other "average" players. 

Last but not least, for a football under attacking manager, i havent seen such shite attacking organisation. Forget the goals or wins. Check Guardiola, Klopp even in their first seasons etc when they attack, there is chance left and right. When we attack, we manage to do it for 5-10 min and thats it. Then all creativity, determination just dissapears and we rely on individual quality in Hazard.

When he leaves, we are fucked for at least 2 seasons.

(And this isnt just based on tonight performance, but whole season). 

All Sarri "realised" is that we apparently cant compete with top dogs unless we park the bus. Duh, we knew that years now. But he was brought to create attacking football. I would understand loss after loss if our phylosophy actualy developed on pitch, if we became more connected in attack, but there is zero improvement since november and we play even worse than first couple months.

Exactly. Sarri just about a bunch of bullshit. The so called "tactics" today was absolute trash. A big fat zero.

[Jase 43,479]

7 minutes ago, Robchels said:

You mistake me for a sarri fan. On the other hand he gets criticized regardless of what he does. Lacking the footballers lingo in English must dismiss his ability to connect with players me thinks.

He speaks English just fine. If he can't convey it, he has Zola to help do so.

Ancelotti's and Conte's English were worse than Sarri's when they first joined and both got on just fine.

[MoroccanBlue 5,378]

1 minute ago, BlueLyon said:

I agree we need couple players, but even with this team, you can make them play entertaining football, althrough you can expect some heavy defeats. What we do is choke every such game and still lose. 

We are FAR from a competing team with only a couple players. 

An upgraded RB, LB, CB, RW, and ST are needed. Especially to play attacking football. 

[Laylabelle 9,534]

1 minute ago, MrExcalibur100 said:

Exactly. Sarri just about a bunch of bullshit. The performance today was absolute trash.

And surely if we were meant to be playing this attacking football we'd have more then 38% of the ball. Saying that even when we have 70 and that we still drop points. 

Its just not happening. Not just today but so many other games. We lost 4-0 to sodding Bournemouth 

[JDY 1,290]

We didn't play too badly. I only remember them creating two good chances all game, the Salah one in the opening minutes and their first goal. The commentary/crowd might convince people that they were amazing but in all honestly they had a very good 10 minutes after the break and that's it.

When you're at the top you always seem to get the luck. 1 in 100 goal vs us again (after Sturridge earlier) and teams not taking clear chances against them. They were extremely lucky not to lose to Spurs aswell.

[Starman60 1,343]

That fucking twat Jamie Redknapp slobbering all over Mo Salah. Fucking stole a living as a footballer as he was always injured.Hate him with a passion

[BlueLyon 9,359]

8 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

When we have the ball the build up is too predicatble.
Would n't change match of we had a better striker but the same build up.
Only Hazard makes some difference - can't be stopped except when fouled

This. We are predictable as hell. Thats why it worked in the start, but no more. 

Ever since we looked like shit. Had two or three good games against average teams and bunch of one goal wins we barely survived. 

If you are predictable, you will never make nice entertaining football because they will read you like a book. And you have to play relaxed, but determined. Sarri is the exact opposite of all that. Our players look predictable as hell and they dont look relaxed nor commited. The results are what they are. 

[Starman60 1,343]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

He speaks English just fine. If he can't convey it, he has Zola to help do so.

Ancelotti's and Conte's English were worse than Sarri when they first joined and both got on just fine.

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