Mateo Kovacic

[killer1257 3,282]

Lampard is gonna have a big headache when Loftus-Cheek returns and make some hard choices in dropping players here and there. But on the other hand, it's great that we suddenly have a good squad depth, something that we didn't necessarily think we would have before the season started. 

I agree, but sooner or later, one of them will leave us. It may be Mount, RLC or Kova. For me personally, RLC gives our game the most improvement because of his runs. But Mount and Kova are Pressing machines. Also, Anjorin will be ready Next Season or the Season after that...

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[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

15 hours ago, nyikolajevics said:

Modric is not a big time scorer either.. Still won that crappy award. Football is like that, roles changes. Just becsuse he is a midfielder he doesn’t have to be a goal threat to be a great player. 
 

Best example is Firmino. He is the CF but Manè and Salah scores more, still he is the most important player among those 3, Chelea could see it in August.

 

Kova is still 25 only.. I think his best years are yet to come. Just like Jorginho, you need the experience to fulfill your potential. I’m sure Real will regret selling him one day.

Yes, a player does not need to be a goal scorer in order to be a valuable midfielder, or anything else for that matter. What counts is his contribution to the team. Of course.

None of that impacts what I said though. I said if Kova had been a goal threat that Madrid would not have sold him and I'm firmly convinced of that. For one thing, they would then have found it easier to play him in the same midfield as Modric. Real clearly saw Kova's quality, hence the decision to sign him, but eventually they had to accept his lack of goal output and consider if, without them, he was the right fit for their squad. He's here so we know their conclusion, but Kova + goals = no Chelsea.

[!Hazard! 3,394]

3 hours ago, killer1257 said:

I agree, but sooner or later, one of them will leave us. It may be Mount, RLC or Kova. For me personally, RLC gives our game the most improvement because of his runs. But Mount and Kova are Pressing machines. Also, Anjorin will be ready Next Season or the Season after that...

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For some reason I have a feeling it will be Kante who's leaving. Real, PSG or Juve will make an offer Marina can't refuse

[killer1257 3,282]

For some reason I have a feeling it will be Kante who's leaving. Real, PSG or Juve will make an offer Marina can't refuse

Kante seems very happy in London. I think he will stay the Next couple of years

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[Fernando 6,585]

3 hours ago, killer1257 said:

I agree, but sooner or later, one of them will leave us. It may be Mount, RLC or Kova. For me personally, RLC gives our game the most improvement because of his runs. But Mount and Kova are Pressing machines. Also, Anjorin will be ready Next Season or the Season after that...

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You assume RLC will return and be as good before his injuries. 

Let's just wait and see how he recovers and how long it takes to get in the form he was before. 

[killer1257 3,282]

You assume RLC will return and be as good before his injuries. 
Let's just wait and see how he recovers and how long it takes to get in the form he was before. 

It was his left achilles that he tore. Also, CHO is also pretty good right now after having the same injury. RLC will be fine. It will take some time but he will make it back to his best

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55 minutes ago, !Hazard! said:

For some reason I have a feeling it will be Kante who's leaving. Real, PSG or Juve will make an offer Marina can't refuse

The one who should leave is freaking Barkley.

[Vesper 30,091]

1 hour ago, !Hazard! said:

For some reason I have a feeling it will be Kante who's leaving. Real, PSG or Juve will make an offer Marina can't refuse

Wee baldy turns 30 next season

give us Raphaël Varane and Ferland Mendy and he is theirs

buy the superb Thomas Partey from Atletico Madrid (his release clause is only £45m atm)

and

as good as Kante is

we are a stronger team

top 6 or 7 in world LB

top 3 or 4 in the world CB

and a top 3 or 4  in the world traditional DMF who also is very much skilled and a driver too

Partey would tear apart Victimpools MF

I do not think most people realise how good he has become the last 2 years, and he is at peak age, we would get 4 peak years out of him, whilst going and getting Camavinga (only 16 now) for the true long term future

Eduardo Camavinga has 'Mbappe as a hybrid DMF/AMF' potential written all over him

he is a freak

Mbappe is last player I have gotten this type of feeling from at this age

I LOVE Ryan Gravenberch, (17yo Ajax CMF) he has raw Pogba with a better attitude written all over him (we should by him too, before he costs  80 to 100m quid), but Camavinga is a potential generational MF talent

we make those moves, we are talking about starting down a direct path to challenge the top 5 global clubs for every trophy, every year, like we were circa 2004 and onward

 

[Fernando 6,585]

@Vesper I remind you that Maka when he left Real he was old and was good for us a while. 

I reckon Kante can go a while like Maka. 

[Vesper 30,091]

9 minutes ago, Fernando said:

@Vesper I remind you that Maka when he left Real he was old and was good for us a while. 

I reckon Kante can go a while like Maka. 

oh, I think he has 3 or 4 gret years left, but if we are to get massive ROR on him, it will have to be next summer, or the summer after (2021) at the latest

I have shown how to buy all those players anyway (or ones equal to Mendy and Varane, who Real will not part with unless they get Kante, more than likely) without selling wee baldy

just was showing what we could do if RM does make a crazy huge move

options options

plans  and options

long term vision FTW

[OhForAGreavsie 6,057]

37 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Wee baldy turns 30 next season

give us Raphaël Varane and Ferland Mendy and he is theirs

As usual with your shopping list posts, I don't know some of the players you mention but I know enough to be fully on board with the two lines quoted above.

The club needs to start singing your favourite tune. Not only do we need to buy smart, but equally important, we need to sell smart too.

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15 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

But how much Frank really rates him over others? Before Ajax he didn't start five games in a row. Even without Kante against Newcastle Barkley started deeper. Now without three midfielders he must play. Also in pre season Lamps indicate he sees RLC in that role. 

He was struggling with minor injuries, got a knock on international duty and wasn't risked to start against relegation fodder. Before he had Kante ahead of him, doesn't mean Lampard doesn't rate Kova, just means he rates Kante more.  I am sure Frank is loving his midfield options.

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6 hours ago, !Hazard! said:

For some reason I have a feeling it will be Kante who's leaving. Real, PSG or Juve will make an offer Marina can't refuse

 

Kanté and Jorginho are 28. Mount and Gilmour are teenagers, Ruben and Kova are in their mid twenties. If we play this smart there will be room for everyone.

[Vytis33 1,261]

Still think he's been outstanding this year.  Doesn't do much that'll get in the box score as we say in the States but influences the game in a lot of other ways.  With the ball at his feet he's as good as anyone we've got.  He could actually stand to press the ball up the pitch more as talented as he is.  And he's playing full matches now where last year it seemed like he was a 60 minute player.  Glad we signed him.

[LAM09 7,043]

I've been most impressed by him thus far. Completely different beast under Lampard, just needs that long awaited goal. [emoji1]