Jase 43,479 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Fernando said: Chelsea's Sarri: Jorginho 'trouble' proof club need Fabregas replacement  LONDON -- Maurizio Sarri reiterated that Chelsea must find a replacement for Cesc Fabregas in the January transfer window after admitting that Jorginho was "in trouble" during Saturday's 2-1 win over Newcastle. "Today Jorginho was in trouble and on the bench there wasn't a player for that position," Sarri said. "I need an option for Jorginho." Is Sarri gonna pretend not having an option for Jorginho isn't his fault? He had Fabregas. He could and should have rotated more between him and Jorginho but nooo, he decided to play the latter 95% of the time and caused the former to leave because of the lack of playing time.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Watching Jorginho against Newcastle made me think about his performances of late, and maybe I'm missing something, and I stand to be corrected if this is the case, but I'm starting to think this guy is stealing a living at Chelsea. The guy is great at 4 yard sideway passes, but ask the lad to split an opposition defence or play a ball over the top to feet and he's incapable of doing it. I think his stats in the Premiership is that he has made the most passes but not one assist to his name !!. He has been rumbled and teams are smothering him, but if he's as great as Sarri insists he is I expect a lot more from him. To see Cesc leaving on a free is a crime, and no back up in place. If we bought a Central defender I'd love to try Luiz in his role as he has a far greater eye for the killer pass and shows much more creativity, and if Kante dropped slightly further back to assist him defensively it could work. I'm beginning to think that Jorginho is Sarri's secret love child as he can do no wrong in the managers eyes....But I'm no manager so.am I missing something?? Bosnian Blue and Adnane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,927 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Think he's completely burnt out. As far as him not having any impact on our attack, I don't blame him at all. We saw with Napoli that he was excellent at the "Fabregas pass" over the top. He tries it repeatedly here (as we saw yesterday) but since we aren't playing with someone who naturally makes those runs up top they're useless. I think he's the biggest beneficiary of the possible incomings of Paredes and Higuain. One plays exactly like he does so he can be rested frequently and the other is the picture perfect forward that plays to his strengths. Sad and frustrated to see so many Chelsea fans on social media having a go at him. Members of the media who don't pay close enough attention as well. Yes, his form has dropped lately but there's a reason why. And it's not ability. kc_blue, DDA, Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, Pizy said: Think he's completely burnt out. As far as him not having any impact on our attack, I don't blame him at all. We saw with Napoli that he was excellent at the "Fabregas pass" over the top. He tries it repeatedly here (as we saw yesterday) but since we aren't playing with someone who naturally makes those runs up top they're useless. I think he's the biggest beneficiary of the possible incomings of Paredes and Higuain. One plays exactly like he does so he can be rested frequently and the other is the picture perfect forward that plays to his strengths. Sad and frustrated to see so many Chelsea fans on social media having a go at him. Members of the media who don't pay close enough attention as well. Yes, his form has dropped lately but there's a reason why. And it's not ability. Allyour points make sense and I'm happy to be corrected. Yes he maybe a bit burnt out but he is starting to frustrate me. But i still think that in his position he should have some assists to his name for the amount of games he has played. Even Cesc, with limited playing time had a couple I think. But after reading your post I will give him more time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted January 13, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Starman60 said: Allyour points make sense and I'm happy to be corrected. Yes he maybe a bit burnt out but he is starting to frustrate me. But i still think that in his position he should have some assists to his name for the amount of games he has played. Even Cesc, with limited playing time had a couple I think. But after reading your post I will give him more time Why do people who keep on banging about Jorginho not having an assist talk as if he does not pass forward? He does tee up others to shoot at goal but he can't do anything if others miss the chance, can he? I mean, look at the chance he set up for Willian yesterday after Newcastle scored. Was a good pass and a good chance but of course Willian put it wide. Not saying Jorginho has been perfect with all his passes but he has been unlucky by having incompetent finishers in front of him. Stats, manpe, Pizy and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Superblue 6,372 Posted January 13, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted January 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jason said: Why do people who keep on banging about Jorginho not having an assist talk as if he does not pass forward? He does tee up others to shoot at goal but he can't do anything if others miss the chance, can he? I mean, look at the chance he set up for Willian yesterday after Newcastle scored. Was a good pass and a good chance but of course Willian put it wide. Not saying Jorginho has been perfect with all his passes but he has been unlucky by having incompetent finishers in front of him. Yes, he played a ball over the top for Hazard to win the penalty against Watford in similar circumstances. He is capable of doing it, but the movement of the players in front of him at the moment either isn't good enough or isn't in sync with him. He has made a big difference to our teams ability to dominate the ball. We were regularly under 50% possession last season or just above it and it's not a coincidence that his arrival has helped drastically change that. I know possession doesn't win games but the ability to dominate the ball should in theory lead to more opportunities to create chances, less opportunities for the opposition and tiring out the opponent trying to chase the ball around. I think we've become more solid defensively throughout the season and we still create chances despite our recent lack of goals, we're simply not clinical enough up front and the third midfielder (Barkley/Kovacic) has not really been performing how we need them to as the most attacking midfielder in recent weeks. It's funny how at the start of the season when we were winning he was the best thing since sliced bread, now we've been struggling recently he's now the problem yet his game hasn't changed. Fernando, Stats, DYC. and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Pizy said: Think he's completely burnt out. As far as him not having any impact on our attack, I don't blame him at all. We saw with Napoli that he was excellent at the "Fabregas pass" over the top. He tries it repeatedly here (as we saw yesterday) but since we aren't playing with someone who naturally makes those runs up top they're useless. I think he's the biggest beneficiary of the possible incomings of Paredes and Higuain. One plays exactly like he does so he can be rested frequently and the other is the picture perfect forward that plays to his strengths. Sad and frustrated to see so many Chelsea fans on social media having a go at him. Members of the media who don't pay close enough attention as well. Yes, his form has dropped lately but there's a reason why. And it's not ability. His passing against Newcastle was complete disaster for a regista. His decision making was bad and his passing was off. Couple time he forced the ball to hazard when hazard was surrounded by 3 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlen Correa 161 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Take a bow Allan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Sergio Biscuits has completed more passes for Barca than Jorginho has for Chelsea this season and only registered one assist. That's playing alongside some of the best attackers in World football in a tinpot league. Arguement over? Sideshow Luiz, communicate, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ay 66 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I think Jorginho has been good in recycling possession and moving the ball forward when the play is in our half of the pitch. He’s been average and borderline poor lately when play is concentrated in the opponent’s half. Also, I don’t think he was brought in by Sarri to a creator but more to set the team’s tempo and build-up. Don’t think he has the creativity or technique of a Pirlo, Xavi or Modric hence I think we should measure him against similar players like a Busquets (though he’s nowhere as good).He really needs a Hamsik-type midfielder to play alongside him to be truly effective. Right now having Kovacic/ Barkley there just makes our midfield look average and devoid of creativity.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk manpe and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Maurizio Sarri urged to drop £50m Chelsea star Jorginho by pundit https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/maurizio-sarri-urged-drop-50m-13864966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccg 1,528 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Who would be a better understudy to Jorginho, Leandro Paredes or Julian Weigl? https://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2019/1/19/18188698/who-would-be-a-better-understudy-to-jorginho-leandro-paredes-or-julian-weigl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 This guy is absolute basic as it becomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Fraud.Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Not sure why you guys bitching about him, what are Kante and Kovacic doing that bares them from criticism and scapegoating Jorginho? Stats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Clockwork said: Not sure why you guys bitching about him, what are Kante and Kovacic doing that bares them from criticism and scapegoating Jorginho? Kante has been up and down the pitch trying to adapt to a role that doesnt suit him to accommodate this fraud. He has more than enough leeway if he isnt have a 10/10 performance(Still one of the better ones out there for us today as little as that says).  Kovacic has been terrible I will give you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,147 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Not sure why you guys bitching about him, what are Kante and Kovacic doing that bares them from criticism and scapegoating Jorginho? The usual player for fans to scapegoat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Not sure why you guys bitching about him, what are Kante and Kovacic doing that bares them from criticism and scapegoating Jorginho? Right now all 3 are absolute shite. People talk about the false 9 and our forward line, our midfield 3 is even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tautvix 1,321 Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Please someone make Jorginho's highlights vs Arsenal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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