Chelsea? 892 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Always hate having to replace world class players. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superblue_1986 4,877 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just how good is Alisson? I haven't watched enough of him. I wouldn't say I was greatly impressed during the World Cup but if anybody knew otherwise De Gea looked like a pub player for Spain. Only one good season at Roma worries me a little bit. The signing of Bakayoko was based on a breakout season and to not see 2 or 3 seasons of consistent performances at a top level has to be a little risky. Separate topic also but I see that Roma brought him from Brazil for 7.5m euros two years ago. It's always been an annoyance to see Chelsea buying a number of South American talents once they've moved to Europe. The likes of Benfica and Porto have made a killing off the back of buying players from Brazil and selling them on, and it seems a few other clubs have taken this approach too. I understand the work permit issues, etc but surely in a time when Chelsea are looking to get better value in their transfer approach they could take a punt at times for much lower fees and loan these out to the likes of Porto and Benfica ourselves, making a much greater saving when they're ready a couple of seasons after. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special Juan 26,154 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, Superblue_1986 said: Just how good is Alisson? I haven't watched enough of him. I wouldn't say I was greatly impressed during the World Cup but if anybody knew otherwise De Gea looked like a pub player for Spain. Only one good season at Roma worries me a little bit. The signing of Bakayoko was based on a breakout season and to not see 2 or 3 seasons of consistent performances at a top level has to be a little risky. Separate topic also but I see that Roma brought him from Brazil for 7.5m euros two years ago. It's always been an annoyance to see Chelsea buying a number of South American talents once they've moved to Europe. The likes of Benfica and Porto have made a killing off the back of buying players from Brazil and selling them on, and it seems a few other clubs have taken this approach too. I understand the work permit issues, etc but surely in a time when Chelsea are looking to get better value in their transfer approach they could take a punt at times for much lower fees and loan these out to the likes of Porto and Benfica ourselves, making a much greater saving when they're ready a couple of seasons after. Very much in the mold of Ederson, his distribution is absolute top notch, not only that but he has developed so much at Roma since he first joined. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superblue_1986 4,877 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Special Juan said: Very much in the mold of Ederson, his distribution is absolute top notch, not only that but he has developed so much at Roma since he first joined. What about his goalkeeping ability - handling, shot stopping, coming for crosses, command of the area, etc. Say in comparison to Courtois? I understand in Sarri's system that everybody needs to be comfortable on the ball and possibly even more so for the keeper and centre backs in order to be able to play the ball out from the back, but it's just as important to have the usual qualities of a solid goalkeeper. The last thing we need is the equivalent of Claudio Bravo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special Juan 26,154 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Just now, Superblue_1986 said: What about his goalkeeping ability - handling, shot stopping, coming for crosses, command of the area, etc. Say in comparison to Courtois? I understand in Sarri's system that everybody needs to be comfortable on the ball and possibly even more so for the keeper and centre backs in order to be able to play the ball out from the back, but it's just as important to have the usual qualities of a solid goalkeeper. The last thing we need is the equivalent of Claudio Bravo. IMO a better shot stopper than Courtois and in most of the departments better, the only one I would say Tibo is slightly better is coming for crosses but Alisson is very competent. Believe me he's fucking far superior to Bravo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Superblue_1986 4,877 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, Special Juan said: IMO a better shot stopper than Courtois and in most of the departments better, the only one I would say Tibo is slightly better is coming for crosses but Alisson is very competent. Believe me he's fucking far superior to Bravo. Good to hear, given his age too he could be the man here for a long time (although we would have thought that with Courtois) And I believe you, even I'm far superior to Bravo! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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kellzfresh 7,211 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 14 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Honestly this would be a very good signing if we can get this done. He will blend into Sarri's philosophy much quicker than TBO because Alisson passes out from the back, and maintains a high line as a sweeper keeper. TBO on the other hand is a better shot stopper and good against crosses but will boot the ball into throwing/pick the wrong pass when pressured and is too slow to play the sweeper role. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Alabama 1,903 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 minute ago, xPetrCechx said: Who is sabatini? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZanSnake 1,211 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 38 minutes ago, eemanyooel said: Who is sabatini? Sampdoria director of football Walter Sabatini Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El P. 1,354 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 If we sell Curtois to Real, we sure cant sell them Eden too? But, on the other side, Eden said he will sign if Tibo signs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneMoSalah 7,705 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Only think this happens if we've already agreed to move on Courtois, which I doubt considering hes still with Belgium, who could still end up deciding he wants to stay if the club shows intent. I get everyone talks about this passing out from the back but Courtois does it for Belgium, has done it for us under Conte with a back 3... I mean he isn't exactly Pirlo fair enough but is Alisson really that much of a better keeper, not only with his feet but in terms of shot stopping etc? He wasn't particularly impressive for Brazil at the WC where as Courtois was arguably their most important player in their last game because he made like 5 big saves. Plus if Courtois goes, I think Eden might be tempted to go too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manpe 10,605 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Only think this happens if we've already agreed to move on Courtois, which I doubt considering hes still with Belgium, who could still end up deciding he wants to stay if the club shows intent. I get everyone talks about this passing out from the back but Courtois does it for Belgium, has done it for us under Conte with a back 3... I mean he isn't exactly Pirlo fair enough but is Alisson really that much of a better keeper, not only with his feet but in terms of shot stopping etc? He wasn't particularly impressive for Brazil at the WC where as Courtois was arguably their most important player in their last game because he made like 5 big saves. Plus if Courtois goes, I think Eden might be tempted to go too. Stop judging players by the few World Cup games. Remember Juan Cuadrado? Is Messi as bad as Argentina makes him look? And so on and so on.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dimitr 488 Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Chelsea are moving for Sarris choice Alisson, Ramadani had many meetings with Roma, Chelsea intends to reach €70m through bonuses. If agreed, Thibo to Madrid & Roma will move for Areola. These are 🔥 days for Alisson.https://www.alfredopedulla.com/esclusiva-alisson-chiodo-fisso-sarri-offerta-al-rialzo-real-scenari-roma/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special Juan 26,154 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Reading around it sounds like this is happening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alabama 1,903 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Reading around it sounds like this is happening. Seems Courtois is gone then... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special Juan 26,154 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, eemanyooel said: Seems Courtois is gone then... Hopefully. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lucio 4,458 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Special Juan said: Hopefully. courtois shits on alisson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Polo7 3,496 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, lucio said: courtois shits on alisson Until there’s a near post shot. 🤤 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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