NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 14 hours ago, Vesper said: this prime Britney, not when she was in her 30's like that song (its a good song though) Even singers you do not rate in their 30s lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 4 hours ago, Jason said: Would have been interesting to see if Hazard's still at the club. His talent is undeniable but the same can't be said about his work rate and desire. Bit of a daft comparison, no offence. Hazard had achieved something here and also in France, he had shown he was potentially an outstanding player who would be world class with a little push or two after he led Lille to a league title and even after 2 seasons here it was so so clear to see Mourinho would help him get to that level. Comparing Callum to him in this situation or any would be a disservice to Eden. Even then, on hard work and desire, considering Eden played in a Mourinho team for 2.5 seasons which required hard work that someone of his ability obviously didnt necessarily want to be doing to focus more on offensive actions higher up the pitch. Even then the game plan was sit deep and pass to Eden to let him do it all which obviously required a lot of hard work as he was the look to guy if Cesc or Costa didnt do anything. Conte free’d him up and so did Sarri but not because he was lazy as such, because he was undoubtedly the best player in the PL and earned much more freedom but he still had to work hard in some games particularly without the ball also. Its not the work rate and desire in games either I was meaning, its the willingness to put the work it in training and fight for his place. Frank wouldnt be saying Callum has to keep training hard if he was already doing so IMO. Plus Callum isn't good enough yet where he can afford to throw the toys out of the pram after not playing regularly 2 games into a season and request a meeting over his future due to playing time for the 2nd season running and third time in 3 seasons hes been talked about leaving. He has potential yes but if that means he thinks hes earned some sort of god given right that he should start every week he is sadly mistaken. If he wasnt an academy player there would be a lot less leniency towards this in my opinion. Just as there was a bit of dislike with the whole will he go will he stay shit Eden had sort of pulled in an interview with some Belgian journalist midway through the season betore he left. Or it annoyed me anyway. Alongside the several interviews that same dickhead journalist had done with Courtois also about maybe leaving etc. And thats two guys who were world class, who had been key in 2 title wins, won a few domestic trophies and others etc. Not somebody whos played under 50 times and luckily managed to pressure the club into giving him a huge deal. Puliiszola 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said: Bit of a daft comparison, no offence. Hazard had achieved something here and also in France, he had shown he was potentially an outstanding player who would be world class with a little push or two after he led Lille to a league title and even after 2 seasons here it was so so clear to see Mourinho would help him get to that level. Comparing Callum to him in this situation or any would be a disservice to Eden. Even then, on hard work and desire, considering Eden played in a Mourinho team for 2.5 seasons which required hard work that someone of his ability obviously didnt necessarily want to be doing to focus more on offensive actions higher up the pitch. Even then the game plan was sit deep and pass to Eden to let him do it all which obviously required a lot of hard work as he was the look to guy if Cesc or Costa didnt do anything. Conte free’d him up and so did Sarri but not because he was lazy as such, because he was undoubtedly the best player in the PL and earned much more freedom but he still had to work hard in some games particularly without the ball also. Its not the work rate and desire in games either I was meaning, its the willingness to put the work it in training and fight for his place. Frank wouldnt be saying Callum has to keep training hard if he was already doing so IMO. Plus Callum isn't good enough yet where he can afford to throw the toys out of the pram after not playing regularly 2 games into a season and request a meeting over his future due to playing time for the 2nd season running and third time in 3 seasons hes been talked about leaving. If he wasnt an academy player there would be a lot less leniency towards this in my opinion. Just as there was a bit of dislike with the whole will he go will he stay shit Eden had sort of pulled in an interview with some Belgian journalist midway through the season betore he left. Or it annoyed me anyway. Alongside the several interviews that same dickhead journalist had done with Courtois also about maybe leaving etc. And thats two guys who were world class, who had been key in 2 title wins, won a few domestic trophies and others etc. Not somebody whos played under 50 times and luckily managed to pressure the club into giving him a huge deal. The overreaction to a throwaway comment is hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Absolutely let himself down today, this is exactly why mount is picked ahead of him. oldportblue and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 He really needs a loan, but not to Bayern Munich. He will not get game time over there. Maybe is best in the PL or some other German team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I don’t see why a Championship loan would be out the question, if he were to leave on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 So we should loan him and virtually have no other winger on the bench in an already congested season. Marvelous idea. Magic Lamps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: So we should loan him and virtually have no other winger on the bench in an already congested season. Marvelous idea. He has been useless so far tho. Maybe we should sign another winger to replace him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 29 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: He has been useless so far tho. Maybe we should sign another winger to replace him We are 3 game in! Why are we so quick to lose trust in a young player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 15 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: We are 3 game in! Why are we so quick to lose trust in a young player? Im not losing trust just accepting that he can’t help us right now. If we loan him out we need a replacement surely. Cho is 19 he can still become good but the problem with young players is that they need to play but we can’t afford an out of form payer time on the pitch when we are integrating half a new XI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldportblue 547 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 CHO was pretty bad yesterday and I thought mount showed why’s he’s consistently picked ahead of him despite not being a winger...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 We cannot loan CHO as we do not have the wingers to do it. I pointed out about a month ago, that currently all we have in the true AM department is: Puli (injury prone), Ziyech (new to the league with questionable robustness) and CHO. My solution was to loan a Coutinho/Bale type player to give us a go to player to help us this season as it is going to be tough for three of them to get through all the minutes to a consistently high enough level. For me, Mount and Harvetz need to be played in CM, which is what I have said all along. However, this idea was seen as crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R2D2 368 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 He picked it up a bit but he needs more minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 He is much better as LW. By playing RW he would never score a goal like this or the one he scored against Bayern (disallowed). Ziyech cannot come soon enough. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 He did very well for the goal. I don’t know if I’m being harsh or maybe being more objective vs the many CHO fans on Twitter but I wasn’t too impressed otherwise. He was very predictable in basically everything he did (as said, other than the goal). Ryan Fong, DDA and 0007 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just to note, this is the second time he's come off the bench with us 3 goals down and helped us to a result. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 He is much better as LW. By playing RW he would never score a goal like this or the one he scored against Bayern (disallowed). Ziyech cannot come soon enough.It is pretty obvious that he is a left winger. Played that role his whole youth career (some times also as a second striker) and he is much more skillful as a left winger. He is very limited as a right winger, because he can't use his whole skill set of dribblings. As a right winger, he plays much more like Willian. Only crossing most of the time.Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk bohops 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 18 hours ago, ja1 said: He did very well for the goal. I don’t know if I’m being harsh or maybe being more objective vs the many CHO fans on Twitter but I wasn’t too impressed otherwise. He was very predictable in basically everything he did (as said, other than the goal). You're right.. he was predictable in everything he did but I think that is down to confidence. The good sign is he made a difference and thats a start. ja1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 How true is this, @killer1257? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 27/09/2020 at 2:33 PM, killer1257 said: It is pretty obvious that he is a left winger. Played that role his whole youth career (some times also as a second striker) and he is much more skillful as a left winger. He is very limited as a right winger, because he can't use his whole skill set of dribblings. As a right winger, he plays much more like Willian. Only crossing most of the time. Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk He did team up well with Reece tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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