Ross Barkley

[Unionjack 7,531]

34 minutes ago, Amblève. said:

I mean, "We're racist, we're racist, and that's the way we like it" was sung by fans of ours once. It's hard to expect our supporters being sensible after that anymore

A pretty vast chasm between racist fuckwit knuckle draggers and PI gone bonkers

Alot of 'supporters' sing these chants without predjudism..They sing them to either try to put the player off or just get swept up in the moment.

Back when we had 'them lot' at the Bridge I knew some pretty well. There was a day they were giving it the 'salute' to a blach copper and I asked this guy I knew who didn't have a racist bone in his body WTF he was doing. To which he replied that he was telling the cop he was a racist!

So some really dont know whats going on and just sing for banter rightly or wrongly.

[the wes 7,212]

CONTE WANTS BARKLEY BACK 'VERY QUICKLY' AS HE REVEALS TACTICAL PLANS FOR NEW ATTACKER

http://www.goal.com/en/news/conte-reveals-his-plan-for-ross-barkley-and-wants-him-back/shoi35jyeymx1k56fh6wsc2qb

[Unionjack 7,531]

13 minutes ago, the wes said:

CONTE WANTS BARKLEY BACK 'VERY QUICKLY' AS HE REVEALS TACTICAL PLANS FOR NEW ATTACKER

http://www.goal.com/en/news/conte-reveals-his-plan-for-ross-barkley-and-wants-him-back/shoi35jyeymx1k56fh6wsc2qb

So looks like hes targeting him for AM then.

[communicate 2,703]

7 hours ago, Unionjack said:

So looks like hes targeting him for AM then.

Because like conte said, he is either an am or the most attacking midfielder in midfield 3.

[El P. 1,354]

Yup, he is not replacement for Bakayoko, unfortunately. Our awful midfield stays as it is.

[Artandur 939]

9 minutes ago, El P. said:

Yup, he is not replacement for Bakayoko, unfortunately. Our awful midfield stays as it is.

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Bakayoko has been the one making all the forward runs in the 3-5-2 though, i do think Barkley could take that role...

[El P. 1,354]

13 minutes ago, Artandur said:

Bakayoko has been the one making all the forward runs in the 3-5-2 though, i do think Barkley could take that role...

Conte said  "I think he can play in midfield, if we play with three midfielders, or number 10 if we play 3-4-3.". 

Actually, it's somewhat unspecified, this "he can play in midfield, if we play with three midfielders". Ok, in three man midfield, but where?

[Ledg 638]

1 hour ago, El P. said:

Conte said  "I think he can play in midfield, if we play with three midfielders, or number 10 if we play 3-4-3.". 

Actually, it's somewhat unspecified, this "he can play in midfield, if we play with three midfielders". Ok, in three man midfield, but where?

 

Probably the 3-5-2 will be more a 3-4-1-2 and Barkley operating behind Morata and Hazard, especially in the big games, at least I see it like that. We tried it with Fabregas but at his current age, he gets completely isolated in that role. If we had a younger Cesc, it would've been great and probably wouldn't need Barkley. At least I see it like this.

 

[Pizy 18,368]

While I hope he's competing with Baka for that place, I think by reading into Conte's quotes there he'll be competing with Cesc.

[Artandur 939]

44 minutes ago, Pizy said:

While I hope he's competing with Baka for that place, I think by reading into Conte's quotes there he'll be competing with Cesc.

I think he‘ll try out both variations in due time

[Leif 6,006]

Out of all players in the league or club you can compare him to. Who is he like? 

 

[the wes 7,212]

1 hour ago, Leif said:

Out of all players in the league or club you can compare him to. Who is he like? 

 

I found the both very similar with their dribbling but Barkley would be better with his long shots and finishing than RLC

[Unionjack 7,531]

26 minutes ago, the wes said:

I found the both very similar with their dribbling but Barkley would be better with his long shots and finishing than RLC

NOO hes a better dribbler than RLC IMHO. But if anyone will know him with us its Gaz. And in that interview he gushes about him eh.

Ive not seen anything of RLC this year so Ive no idea how hes progressed but honestly Ive not rated him too high. Always thought him a clumsy sod who looked like Bambi on ice. So if hes progeessed at all it can only be good.

Seems hes not for sale tho. Is that down to Conte or one of Romans English core he wants us to have?

[El P. 1,354]

Yeah, scenarios in which both RLC and Barkley would play in same XI are stories for little kids. How, just how? Only if one of them (RLC) becomes good at playing more wide, but that would need whole formation change (in 4-2-3-1/4-1-4-1).

That ain't gonna happen. Hope Barkley will be good, but hope RLC will be even better.

So, ideal scenario - Ross plays for 2 seasons, has 2 good seasons, RLC improves a lot by that time, comes back to CFC after 2 seasons. RLC takes his place, and we sell Barkley for 60 millions.

[The Skipper 20,593]

34 minutes ago, El P. said:

Yeah, scenarios in which both RLC and Barkley would play in same XI are stories for little kids. How, just how? Only if one of them (RLC) becomes good at playing more wide, but that would need whole formation change (in 4-2-3-1/4-1-4-1).

That ain't gonna happen. Hope Barkley will be good, but hope RLC will be even better.

So, ideal scenario - Ross plays for 2 seasons, has 2 good seasons, RLC improves a lot by that time, comes back to CFC after 2 seasons. RLC takes his place, and we sell Barkley for 60 millions.

They could play together in a 3. Barkley/RLC/Kanté isn’t too bad (assuming both players have improved significantly of course) for example. But I do agree that that’s too idealistic, especially at Chelsea. 

[El P. 1,354]

2 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

They could play together in a 3. Barkley/RLC/Kanté isn’t too bad (assuming both players have improved significantly of course) for example. But I do agree that that’s too idealistic, especially at Chelsea. 

Yeah... Barkley isn't 21, he is 24, I cannot see him ever being tactically mature, strong or durable player. He is "baller". RLC? Maybe someday, but for now he is too an AMC, without much of those abilities I mentioned.

Kante - RLC - Barkley is something Guardiola would pull. Like Fernandinho - KDB - Silva.

[The Skipper 20,593]

1 hour ago, El P. said:

Yeah... Barkley isn't 21, he is 24, I cannot see him ever being tactically mature, strong or durable player. He is "baller". RLC? Maybe someday, but for now he is too an AMC, without much of those abilities I mentioned.

Kante - RLC - Barkley is something Guardiola would pull. Like Fernandinho - KDB - Silva.

Someone inexperienced like Tuchel would do the same. 

[!Hazard! 3,394]

Kante – Drinkwater – Barkley is definitely the way to go IMO. Fabregas coming off the bench in the last 30 mins like last season