Antonio Rudiger

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  On 23/09/2020 at 16:31, prehuman said:

Any player in defense looks worse on a team that doesn't know how to position or defend.
Rudiger was good with Conte and is good at playing in one of the best national teams in the world such as Germany.

No, he is not good in the German national team. Have you seen him play for them?

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  On 23/09/2020 at 16:31, prehuman said:

Any player in defense looks worse on a team that doesn't know how to position or defend.
Rudiger was good with Conte and is good at playing in one of the best national teams in the world such as Germany.

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That because apart from Sule and now Ginter, their other CBs are bang average.

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  On 23/09/2020 at 16:23, Puliiszola said:

Mount is "shoved" into the team because he was one of our best players in the team last season. It's his role in pressing which actually makes our pressing click. The only "agenda" is to play the team that can win. 

As for your "agenda", suprised we did not buy an English striker instead of werner, an English gk instead of Mendy, an English cb instead of silva, an English winger instead of ziyech, right? 

Like it was said, by many there, one of the most pathetic posts to have read, just as the rudiger one 

Talk about him, how does he merit to be in the squad. What did he do last season to be given that trust 

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Dunno you tell me what did Christensen do to be given that trust when he ended the season below Zouma and Rudiger? I never said he only obsessed with bringing English player that's just you projecting words I never said. Thing is it's obvious for anyone Chilwell and Rice are average to moderately good players, that's about it. For the prices quoted we got/will get rinsed simple as that. Plenty players better than them and cheaper, said by many not just me and it's not even a mystery, last time I saw Rice he embarrassed himself with that pass from Sancho.

>The only "agenda" is to play the team that can win. 

Sure thing like Frank ostracized Alonso, Giroud, Tomori, Jorginho, Pedro for months because it was obvious in the detriment of the team to play an out of form and injured Tammy, useless Bats and Emerson, run Willian into the ground, put make shift Mount on the wings or continuing to play Christensen.

And I repeat if the one shoving Rudiger out of the team is someone else not him it's a disgrace and goes to show how little respect some have for players. I like how Rudiger is plain shit on field and deemed not worthy of a place in the squad but all of you didn't seem to mind when he worked his ass to help get top German talents here, something he wasn't even supposed to be doing because it wasn't his job. Lack of respect simple as that.

 

Probably decided after Lampard finally saw Tomori is useful after he was forced to play him, can't even make this shit up. Rudiger "the donkey" and Kepa we're pretty good before Lampard. How convenient they went to shit right after Lampard started messing with the defense.

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  On 23/09/2020 at 16:40, R2D2 said:

Dunno you tell me what did Christensen do to be given that trust when he ended the season below Zouma and Rudiger? I never said he only obsessed with bringing English player that's just you projecting words I never said. Thing is it's obvious for anyone Chilwell and Rice are average to moderately good players, that's about it. For the prices quoted we got/will get rinsed simple as that. Plenty players better than them and cheaper, said by many not just me and it's not even a mystery, last time I saw Rice he embarrassed himself with that pass from Sancho.

>The only "agenda" is to play the team that can win. 

Sure thing like Frank ostracized Alonso, Giroud, Tomori, Jorginho, Pedro for months because it was obvious in the detriment of the team to play an out of form and injured Tammy, useless Bats and Emerson, run Willian into the ground, put make shift Mount on the wings or continuing to play Christensen.

And I repeat if the one shoving Rudiger out of the team is someone else not him it's a disgrace and goes to show how little respect some have for players. I like how Rudiger is plain shit on field and deemed not worthy of a place in the squad but all of you didn't seem to mind when he worked his ass to help get top German talents here, something he wasn't even supposed to be doing because it wasn't his job. Lack of respect simple as that.

 

Probably decided after Lampard finally saw Tomori is useful after he was forced to play him, can't even make this shit up. Rudiger "the donkey" and Kepa we're pretty good before Lampard. How convenient they went to shit right after Lampard started messing with the defense.

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There is so much bullshit in this one single post that it's literally impossible to deal with it. 😂

Specially the kepa part. He can't stop the ball, since his SARRI FIASCO, but somehow even THAT is on FL. 

What. A. Joke. 

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  On 23/09/2020 at 17:10, Puliiszola said:

There is so much bullshit in this one single post that it's literally impossible to deal with it. 😂

Specially the kepa part. He can't stop the ball, since his SARRI FIASCO, but somehow even THAT is on FL. 

What. A. Joke. 

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Maybe watch the Frankfurt match, he single handily won us that semifinal and was arguably decent that season as a whole, don't mix him being a prick to his on field performances which we're more than fine that season.

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  On 23/09/2020 at 16:40, R2D2 said:

Dunno you tell me what did Christensen do to be given that trust when he ended the season below Zouma and Rudiger? I never said he only obsessed with bringing English player that's just you projecting words I never said. Thing is it's obvious for anyone Chilwell and Rice are average to moderately good players, that's about it. For the prices quoted we got/will get rinsed simple as that. Plenty players better than them and cheaper, said by many not just me and it's not even a mystery, last time I saw Rice he embarrassed himself with that pass from Sancho.

>The only "agenda" is to play the team that can win. 

Sure thing like Frank ostracized Alonso, Giroud, Tomori, Jorginho, Pedro for months because it was obvious in the detriment of the team to play an out of form and injured Tammy, useless Bats and Emerson, run Willian into the ground, put make shift Mount on the wings or continuing to play Christensen.

And I repeat if the one shoving Rudiger out of the team is someone else not him it's a disgrace and goes to show how little respect some have for players. I like how Rudiger is plain shit on field and deemed not worthy of a place in the squad but all of you didn't seem to mind when he worked his ass to help get top German talents here, something he wasn't even supposed to be doing because it wasn't his job. Lack of respect simple as that.

 

Probably decided after Lampard finally saw Tomori is useful after he was forced to play him, can't even make this shit up. Rudiger "the donkey" and Kepa we're pretty good before Lampard. How convenient they went to shit right after Lampard started messing with the defense.

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Get the feeling u blame FK for corona and 9/11? 

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  On 23/09/2020 at 17:14, BluesMadLad said:

Get the feeling u blame FK for corona and 9/11? 

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Not in the least, I want him to stay and continue but some of you trying to hide his deficiencies and mistakes, leave the rest of us a sore taste in our mouths.

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  On 23/09/2020 at 17:14, BluesMadLad said:

Get the feeling u blame FK for corona and 9/11? 

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Both the world wars too. 😂

[Hutcho 8,443]

  On 23/09/2020 at 16:20, Ryan Fong said:

“Mount is Lampard’s secret son”
“Sign Chilwell to make Mount happy”
“Whoever offloads Rudiger is a cunt”

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to TC.

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Mate. Sometimes this place is worse than twitter. I think the laugh i get from some of it is what keeps me around.

R2D2 spouts so much shite it is hilarious. Lampard to blame for kepa as well apparently.

Also Rudiger chatted to them he didn't do much to get them to come lets not overstate it. How about the fact they all credited FRANK FUCKING LAMPARD as a big reason why they joined. Jesus christ.

If you hate FL that much you aint a chelsea fan. Fact.

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  On 23/09/2020 at 17:10, Puliiszola said:

There is so much bullshit in this one single post that it's literally impossible to deal with it. [emoji23]
Specially the kepa part. He can't stop the ball, since his SARRI FIASCO, but somehow even THAT is on FL. 
What. A. Joke. 

Kudos to you mate[emoji1376]

I tried so hard to reply that ridiculous post without being mean and sarcastic and I failed, ended up deleted the draft and go CBA. [emoji1787]

[R2D2 368]

  On 23/09/2020 at 17:18, Hutcho said:

Mate. Sometimes this place is worse than twitter. I think the laugh i get from some of it is what keeps me around.

R2D2 spouts so much shite it is hilarious. Lampard to blame for kepa as well apparently.

Also Rudiger chatted to them he didn't do much to get them to come lets not overstate it. How about the fact they all credited FRANK FUCKING LAMPARD as a big reason why they joined. Jesus christ.

If you hate FL that much you aint a chelsea fan. Fact.

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So I hate Lampard for spelling the obvious that's been until now, funny how I'm only reproducing what others already said in the Lampard thread, I ain't even saying anything new, all I complain about is in that thread as well from others but some of you keep a blind eye and worship him even above the club itself.

I can go and praise him when needed without any problems since he has done plenty until now, but I also can't ignore some of his shit, which some of you do blindly do.

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  On 23/09/2020 at 17:14, R2D2 said:

Maybe watch the Frankfurt match, he single handily won us that semifinal and was arguably decent that season as a whole, don't mix him being a prick to his on field performances which we're more than fine that season.

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Lol. His issues witj dealing with crosses were very much there even then. It was only his shot stopping which kept him relevant. Something which FL could not possibly impact.

Any team coached by any manager which undergoes such a massive transition where the club's basic style of play is uprooted and changed, goes through such a period. Go and watch 1.5/2 years of Klopp with pool and see how shit they were defensively. Hence the difference in how Rudi has performed where he has simply been unable to adapt to the system.

Blaming kepa on FL is literally the most nonsensical thing I have read, and won't even reply to such an obnoxious thing.

[Hutcho 8,443]

  On 23/09/2020 at 17:23, R2D2 said:

So I hate Lampard for spelling the obvious that's been until now, funny how I'm only reproducing what others already said in the Lampard thread, I ain't even saying anything new, all I complain about is in that thread as well from others but some of you keep a blind eye and worship him above the club.

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Don't worry, there's plenty of other people talkiing shite as well. Not just you.

[Ryan Fong 2,776]

  On 23/09/2020 at 17:18, Hutcho said:

Mate. Sometimes this place is worse than twitter. I think the laugh i get from some of it is what keeps me around.
R2D2 spouts so much shite it is hilarious. Lampard to blame for kepa as well apparently.
Also Rudiger chatted to them he didn't do much to get them to come lets not overstate it. How about the fact they all credited FRANK FUCKING LAMPARD as a big reason why they joined. Jesus christ.
If you hate FL that much you aint a chelsea fan. Fact.

Tell you what mate, I have hold back myself for so many times when it comes to try replying these ridiculous posts because one I’m not sure about the code of this forum and second my below average English limits myself to express precisely.

And I keep wondering, besides swearing and racism etc., does spouting absolute bullshit counts as violation as well? Those are not just “opinion” anymore, they are pure baseless nonsenses and false accusations.

[R2D2 368]

  On 23/09/2020 at 17:25, Puliiszola said:

Lol. His issues witj dealing with crosses were very much there even then. It was only his shot stopping which kept him relevant. Something which FL could not possibly impact.

Any team coached by any manager which undergoes such a massive transition where the club's basic style of play is uprooted and changed, goes through such a period. Go and watch 1.5/2 years of Klopp with pool and see how shit they were defensively. Hence the difference in how Rudi has performed where he has simply been unable to adapt to the system.

Blaming kepa on FL is literally the most nonsensical thing I have read, and won't even reply to such an obnoxious thing.

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Klopp had a system and play style, and stuck to his guns even when it backfired massively, Lampard in one season is still searching what to do but this is for another thread since this is about Tony but keep in mind as much as Kepa's deficiencies have always been there, he was never as poor as with Lampard and Tony is just another example, I wonder what the excuse will be if the defense keeps being shite after Thiago starts and Tony ends up playing good at another club.

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  On 23/09/2020 at 17:33, R2D2 said:

Klopp had a system and play style, and stuck to his guns even when it backfired massively, Lampard in one season is still searching what to do but this is for another thread since this is about Tony but keep in mind as much as Kepa's deficiencies have always been there, he was never as poor as with Lampard and Tony is just another example, I wonder what the excuse will be if the defense keeps being shite after Thiago starts and Tony ends up playing good at another club.

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Klopp was looking stupid in the start of his tenure. He might have stuck to his play style and formation, if FL does that and gets 8th position, then "fans" like you would rip him apart. 

You can't even give him the due when the manager before him barely got top 4 with Eden hazard and getting the players he wanted. The manager before that (Conte), did not get top 4 despite spending 200m on bakayoko, emerson, Morata etc. 

FL lost the best player of the league, had a trnsfer ban to deal with, gave us an attacking play style, integrated youth and yet all you can see are his negatives. On top of that just the sheer talent that he has got in wrrner, ziyech, kai will help the club no matter if he stays or leave unlike his predecessors. 

Kepa looking bad is not on him, you trying to spin it that ways just comes off as pathetic. Rudi getting exposed in this system is his talent issue. I would rather take a pint with tomori and his way higher ceiling, than a bang average injury prone Rudi.

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[milka 3,375]

Sorry but  Rudiger > Christensen .

Keep Rudi sell Andreas .

 

Lampard dropped Jorginho, got criticised. played Jorginho, still got criticised.

Lampard played Odoi, was accused of obsession with English players. Dropped Odoi, he was accused of lacking tactics.

Lampard played Rudiger, he was insulted. Dropped Rudiger, accused of pride.