BoyBlue96 990 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, kellzfresh said: Tottenham's tactics 1.) Get the ball to Walker and Eriksen and create an overload with Alonso 2.) Force Cahill to come across to help 3.) Make sure David Luiz is busy with Kane 4.) Dele Alli makes a forward run to get on the end of crosses vs Azpi and Moses We had no answer… We have Cahill who was too slow to close down erikson, while walker was occupying Alonso, hazard can't come back to defend that space Cahill leaves as well as Willian/Pedro on the right and combined with an easy person to beat in the air in Azpilicueta, this is a weakness. Mancity did it with DeBruyne and now tottenham with erikson. If we're not going to get into the market and improve on the quality of our wide players and central midfielders, we have to play 3-5-2 against the big teams from now on. The third midfielder will cover that space where Cahill doesn't like closing down the diagonal crosser and hazard doesn't cover that space effectively. Thankfully tottenham scored us from two similar goals so Conte should spot that obvious weakness before our big games against liverpool and Arsenal. Giroud will eat Azpi alive if ozil is allowed to put early diagonal crosses from the Alonso-cahill-matic triangle. Good you named Giroud. One of the best strikers in the League when it comes down to headers. Unbelievable Zlatan couldn't beat Azpi back on october 23th last year... Like I said: Virgil van Dijk. Not biased because that guy is Dutch but because he's a huge (read in Donald Trump: YUGE) guy who can take out these type of opponents. If we had a defender like him taking out Alli, he wouldn't scored those 2 identical goals. kellzfresh and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, BoyBlue96 said: Good you named Giroud. One of the best strikers in the League when it comes down to headers. Unbelievable Zlatan couldn't beat Azpi back on october 23th last year... Like I said: Virgil van Dijk. Not biased because that guy is Dutch but because he's a huge (read in Donald Trump: YUGE) guy who can take out these type of opponents. If we had a defender like him taking out Alli, he wouldn't scored those 2 identical goals. Not just the marking of Alli, but the freedom of the world erikson had to cross is annoying. Kante and Azpi would never allow that kind of space because of how fast they close down space. But on the Alonso-cahill-matic area they're all slow, only Matic presses the rest back off and KDB and now erikson have the freedom to ping easy diagonal crosses. It's a weakness that ruins our tactics and we must fix it, because now every team have watched this game and will try it all match long till they score. dimmas and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BoyBlue96 990 Posted January 5, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted January 5, 2017 Just now, kellzfresh said: Not just the marking of Alli, but the freedom of the world erikson had to cross is annoying. Kante and Azpi would never allow that kind of space because of how fast they close down space. But on the Alonso-cahill-matic area they're all slow, only Matic presses the rest back off and KDB and now erikson have the freedom to ping easy diagonal crosses. It's a weakness that ruins our tactics and we must fix it, because now every team have watched this game and will try it all match long till they score. Alonso-Cahill-Matic is our weak "Pyramid" I believe. dimmas, Unionjack, kellzfresh and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,586 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 23 minutes ago, BoyBlue96 said: Alonso-Cahill-Matic is our weak "Pyramid" I believe. Out of those 3 I will stay with Matic. Alonso and Cahill are very limited. Hence my point that Conte has out perform. Get rid of Cahill for someone like van dyke, and Alonso get Bertrand back or someone like that. Despiadado.Maleante 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Bernard N Y Burgesson 139 Posted January 6, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted January 6, 2017 BoyBlues96 the solution is Baba back, Van Dyke, Nainggolan. Then we need some height advantage on the right side of our defence. Azpi and Moses to small to deal with crosses. Other players like Ibrahimovic were just unlucky not to score. Go watch chelsea vs man u and u will notice. BTW Chalobah has the pace to close down players like Erikson. Am a bit angry about the goals even if they were like wat we conceded against stoke that will be fine but two identical goals cant believe it Despiadado.Maleante, communicate, dimmas and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 7 hours ago, Fernando said: Out of those 3 I will stay with Matic. Alonso and Cahill are very limited. Hence my point that Conte has out perform. Get rid of Cahill for someone like van dyke, and Alonso get Bertrand back or someone like that. Replacing cahill will help but will not solve the crosses from that position. It is one of the problem playing this system. with only two cm and without any help from the striker, there is going to be overload on the wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 9 hours ago, kellzfresh said: Tottenham's tactics 1.) Get the ball to Walker and Eriksen and create an overload with Alonso 2.) Force Cahill to come across to help 3.) Make sure David Luiz is busy with Kane 4.) Dele Alli makes a forward run to get on the end of crosses vs Azpi and Moses We had no answer… We have Cahill who was too slow to close down erikson, while walker was occupying Alonso, hazard can't come back to defend that space Cahill leaves as well as Willian/Pedro on the right and combined with an easy person to beat in the air in Azpilicueta, this is a weakness. Mancity did it with DeBruyne and now tottenham with erikson. If we're not going to get into the market and improve on the quality of our wide players and central midfielders, we have to play 3-5-2 against the big teams from now on. The third midfielder will cover that space where Cahill doesn't like closing down the diagonal crosser and hazard doesn't cover that space effectively. Thankfully tottenham scored us from two similar goals so Conte should spot that obvious weakness before our big games against liverpool and Arsenal. Giroud will eat Azpi alive if ozil is allowed to put early diagonal crosses from the Alonso-cahill-matic triangle. You are right. I'm not that worried about Liverpool exploiting this hole because they have no huge target men, they will be playing to their strengths not to our weaknesses. But you can bet everything that Giroud will be a massive headache if we persist with Moses and Azpi on that side, Wenger must be rubbing his hands together gleefully after that Spurs game. That guy is a monster in the air and on his day nearly unstoppable even by hardened defenders. I would like us to try Azpi RWB and Zouma RCB some time to test this combination out, because there will be games where we will need sheer mass in the box. kellzfresh and Bernard N Y Burgesson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, manpe said: You are right. I'm not that worried about Liverpool exploiting this hole because they have no huge target men, they will be playing to their strengths not to our weaknesses. But you can bet everything that Giroud will be a massive headache if we persist with Moses and Azpi on that side, Wenger must be rubbing his hands together gleefully after that Spurs game. That guy is a monster in the air and on his day nearly unstoppable even by hardened defenders. I would like us to try Azpi RWB and Zouma RCB some time to test this combination out, because there will be games where we will need sheer mass in the box. Your CB need to be good on the ball in 3 man defence and Im not sure about Zouma. Blue-in-me-Veins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 31 minutes ago, communicate said: Your CB need to be good on the ball in 3 man defence and Im not sure about Zouma. Yes for sure they need to be, but sometimes it is not enough as we saw against Spurs and we don't have the luxury to pick a strong ball-playing CB. Zouma can play simple passes well, he doesn't need to be Bonucci to be useful. But it all depends on what kind of shape he's in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack17 205 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Chelsea tell panel 'culture of the club' has changed under Antonio Conte Chelsea told a disciplinary committee that "the culture of the club'' had changed under Antonio Conte before being fined £100,000 for their part in the fracas at the end of last month's win at Manchester City. The Premier League leaders, who won 3-1 at the Etihad Stadium, received a greater punishment than City, who were fined £35,000, despite an independent regulatory commission finding the parties to be "equally culpable.'' The written reasons for the sanctions, published by the Football Association on Thursday, showed that both clubs admitted breaching the misconduct rule which governs controlling players and staff. Six prior offences dating back to 2011 -- and five since February 2015 -- were considered before Chelsea's sanction was determined. Mr Jim Sturman QC, representing Chelsea, "accepted that the club would be punished more severally based on their previous record,'' the written reasons said. "This could not be disputed but he submitted that the culture of the club had changed under the new manager,'' the written reasons added. http://www.espnfc.com/english-premier-league/story/3032742/chelsea-tell-panel-culture-of-the-club-has-changed-under-conte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 14 hours ago, BoyBlue96 said: Alonso-Cahill-Matic is our weak "Pyramid" I believe. I think youre dead right. Plus with Eden also on that side it makes the left side of the pitch open for attack. Maybe trying Dave as LWB would help alot and upgrate both Cahill and Daves CB spot. Antonio Conte reveals Chelsea's January transfer plans: I have some ideas ANTONIO CONTE has some ideas of players he wants to bring to Stamford Bridge this month. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/575981/Antonio-Conte-Chelsea-January-transfer-plans-gossip-rumours-Costa-Premier-League-news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,449 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Crosses being swung in from our left towards Azpi and Moses have been like kryptonite for our new formation ever since we began playing with it... In the game against Man Utd at the bridge, you could see how Zlatan was targeting Azpi and leaping over him to win headers (which he didn't convert in the end). Azpi tries his best to give the attacker as much of a challenge, but there's only so much he can do against players with real leaping ability The left hand side of our defense has to be more proactive in cutting out crosses coming from that side. They should be scrutinizing this a lot given how similar the 2 goals that Spurs scored were. lucio, The Chels, kellzfresh and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 this is true, the left side can't stop the crosses, right side can't deal with them. Zouma is needed at rcb Bernard N Y Burgesson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi1691 255 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 5 hours ago, lucio said: this is true, the left side can't stop the crosses, right side can't deal with them. Zouma is needed at rcb Zouma hasn't got the ability on the ball to replace Azpi. Azpi makes a huge number of passes a game. Peace. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 11 hours ago, kiwi1691 said: Zouma hasn't got the ability on the ball to replace Azpi. Azpi makes a huge number of passes a game. Azpi can go left , and zouma played in midfield , hes better than peoplethink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unionjack 7,531 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, lucio said: Azpi can go left , and zouma played in midfield , hes better than peoplethink He had Fellaini in his pocket the whole game. I'm praying to the football gods he blows everyone away today. And Batman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 4:53 PM, manpe said: Yes for sure they need to be, but sometimes it is not enough as we saw against Spurs and we don't have the luxury to pick a strong ball-playing CB. Zouma can play simple passes well, he doesn't need to be Bonucci to be useful. But it all depends on what kind of shape he's in. 3 man defence require one of your side cb to be the starting point of your attack. It is not about being a Bonucci but he has to be comfortable bringing the ball up and make forward pass. I am not sure zouma is ready. Tomo and Supermonkey92 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! BoyBlue96 990 Posted January 8, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted January 8, 2017 They get along real good! Cosmin, Blue Armour, Milan and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Anyone seen this? Apparently Conte and the team (or at least some players) stayed on the pitch to do drills after the game. Talk about commitment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyBlue96 990 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Anyone seen this? Apparently Conte and the team (or at least some players) stayed on the pitch to do drills after the game. Talk about commitment!Like someone else says in that thread: it's a "warming down". Most teams do that. But it's still good to see for us fans that we have a manager as committed as Conte is at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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