Popular Post! stroey 2,525 Posted October 26, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted October 26, 2014 When Mou decided to bring on Mikel it was for several reasons.-Oscar and cesc couldn't control the midfield. Mikel can help with that. - Matic and Cesc were already on yellows, one dive or foul would be a 2nd yellow.- Bringing Mikel to be the main cdm, gives Cesc and Matic more freedom to attack.I think it was a good move, not a coward one. Normally Mikel helps us to control games, like Everton (3-6). CHOULO19, kellzfresh, Stats and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roba3y 28 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Mourinho's strategy success rate is about 8 out of 10 Matches (Big Matches)You would never ever find a strategy which make you achieve 100% successWe will be caught sometimes and that is normal like what happened today and against Man cityBut since the success rate is still like that i will take it and support our manager to keep on it until you find a better approach for games that gives higher success % Tomo, CHOULO19 and darrus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 When Mou decided to bring on Mikel it was for several reasons.-Oscar and cesc couldn't control the midfield. Mikel can help with that.- Matic and Cesc were already on yellows, one dive or foul would be a 2nd yellow.- Bringing Mikel to be the main cdm, gives Cesc and Matic more freedom to attack.I think it was a good move, not a coward one. Normally Mikel helps us to control games, like Everton (3-6).Mikel can't pass the ball except backwards or sideways putting more pressure on his teammates. You're shitting yourself if you think he can help control the midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Second best IMOI think he's the best manager around right now too. What he's doing with Atletico is amazing and he deserves a lot of credit and respect. Amazing manager. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrExcalibur100 7,124 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Mourinho's strategy success rate is about 8 out of 10 Matches (Big Matches)You would never ever find a strategy which make you achieve 100% successWe will be caught sometimes and that is normal like what happened today and against Man cityBut since the success rate is still like that i will take it and support our manager to keep on it until you find a better approach for games that gives higher success %This is also a good point made. Mourinho simply doesn't lose that many to the big clubs and with our fire power this season, we are sweeping aside the smaller clubs. It's a title-winning recipe and you can't argue with it. Tomo and DYC. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I think he's the best manager around right now too. What he's doing with Atletico is amazing and he deserves a lot of credit and respect. Amazing manager.He also makes Wengers money excuse that he STILL uses (despite being able to compete financially in the FFP era) look very very silly.I guess that's the difference between winners and also rans, Wenger uses the money excuse as a fall back line, Simeone sees two squads with players more expensive than his squad and goes and wins La Liga ahead of both. Ainsley Harriott and Styles 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 He also makes Wengers money excuse that he STILL uses (despite being able to compete financially in the FFP era) look very very silly.I guess that's the difference between winners and also rans, Wenger uses the money excuse as a fall back line, Simeone sees two squads with players more expensive than his squad and goes and wins La Liga ahead of both.It puts all of that into perspective, doesn't it? Wenger at the moment isn't even half the manager Simeone is. I don't think I've ever seen a team work as hard as Atletico do, they are absolute machines. Their performance at Stamford Bridge last season was also very good football wise, they played some of the best football I've seen in a long time. He's a brilliant manager. MrBlueGuy and Tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRiver 1,512 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Mourinho's tactics were wrong today, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 It puts all of that into perspective, doesn't it? Wenger at the moment isn't even half the manager Simeone is. I don't think I've ever seen a team work as hard as Atletico do, they are absolute machines. Their performance at Stamford Bridge last season was also very good football wise, they played some of the best football I've seen in a long time. He's a brilliant manager.For sure, if we were still in the period of manager instability and Mou was out of reach I would have been starting a campaign to get him here. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 For sure, if we were still in the period of manager instability and Mou was out of reach I would have been starting a campaign to get him here.Still think it will be either him or Klopp or Ancelotti(if he get sacked) or Pep that will manage us after Jose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Just like the team against Palace last season, today Mourinho lacked balls. It happens. Time to move on, but he should know despite the mistake by Dowd sending Iva off, this is on him. You don't sit back when you're building a momentum. You capitalize and go for the kill. Funny he talks about Willian and Hazard needing to learn about going for the kill if he himself doesn't go. Today was the 6th time Mikel was introduced in an EPL match for us. Coward approach that disappoints me.All in all, one point isn't that bad, but there's a bad taste in my mouth, about the two points lost and the approach Mourinho took when he brought Mikel (who was awful btw).I expected more from Mou.Coward approach? Seriously?! I didn't see you complaining when Jose used this tactic in the other games. The fact that it didn't work today and that it was against United is probably the reason behind your rant. Honestly, it was just pure bad luck. Sure Jose could have pushed his team for a second goal but thats just not his way. We were away to United and he played safe because we had a lead and Jose wanted the 3 points. Mikel always ensured that but sadly today it didn't work because of that free kick at the end. So there is no point making him the scapegoat again.Had Iva not been sent off,I am sure we would have won the game and everyone here would've been praising Jose.I can understand your frustration because we dropped 2 precious points but come on, we both know that the manager is not at fault here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Still think it will be either him or Klopp or Ancelotti(if he get sacked) or Pep that will manage us after Jose.He won't get sacked unless we nosedive big style but I cba to get into that argument again.Furthermore I wouldn't want Ancelotti back, im grateful for the double but the second season was beyond horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stroey 2,525 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 Still think it will be either him or Klopp or Ancelotti(if he get sacked) or Pep that will manage us after Jose.Anyone but Pep, hate that guy iseah100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 If Costa was fit to play then I would see why people moan about us not going for a second. We had Drogba up top who is far from his best and Shurrle who is no CF kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 He won't get sacked unless we nosedive big style but I cba to get into that argument again.Furthermore I wouldn't want Ancelotti back, im grateful for the double but the second season was beyond horrendous.10-11 was not his fault and we actually wasn't that far from winning the title with a shit team. That 2-1 loss at Old Trafford was the decider. I mean front 3 consisted of 30+ Drogba, Malouda and Anelka with the likes of Mikel in CM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 It puts all of that into perspective, doesn't it? Wenger at the moment isn't even half the manager Simeone is. I don't think I've ever seen a team work as hard as Atletico do, they are absolute machines. Their performance at Stamford Bridge last season was also very good football wise, they played some of the best football I've seen in a long time. He's a brilliant manager.We hadn't been played off the park like that at home under Jose for a long time. They've lost 3 of their best players to us but I'd still expect them to beat us tbh because their balance between attack and defence in the big games is almost perfect.If Costa was fit to play then I would see why people moan about us not going for a second. We had Drogba up top who is far from his best and Shurrle who is no CFThat excuse works for this game but what about against City when he was fit and we were playing against 10 men? It's clearly Jose's tactic to sit back after 1-0 and as Gary Neville put it, that lack of killer instinct against the big teams is what may well stop us winning the CL. Styles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 He won't get sacked unless we nosedive big style but I cba to get into that argument again.Furthermore I wouldn't want Ancelotti back, im grateful for the double but the second season was beyond horrendous.I'm quite enjoying his Real side. 13/14 was of course a great year. And they look strong again this season. A midfield consisting of Modric, Kroos, James and Isco/Bale yet maintain balance, tactical discipline and getting everybody to work hard. Didn't think anyone would be able to pull it off.Great team, an abundance of technical abiltity. Season is still long of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 10-11 was not his fault and we actually wasn't that far from winning the title with a shit team. That 2-1 loss at Old Trafford was the decider. I mean front 3 consisted of 30+ Drogba, Malouda and Anelka with the likes of Mikel in CM.That's the thing that annoys me, a lot of people say Jose isnt untouchable and should get critic when nessecery (fair enough I agree) but so many times people don't want to give Carlo any responsibility for that season.Ok circumstance wasn't in his favour but his decisions at times were laughable, that game vs Liverpool were Kenny Dalglish off all people bent him over tactically was painful. Naming lineups in press conference, surely such an experienced manager would know that gives the oppo an advantage, refusing to play a hungry on form Sturridge while Anelka was stinking Stamford Bridge out.We clawed some results bacl in March and April due to our defence still being solid which allowed for some beyond turgid grinds out, but in reality we were never back in the race, even if we won at OT we would have had to have won at Goodison by a higher score than United beat Blackpool at home, was possible mathematically but in reality we lost the league in the winter. pHaRaOn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 I'm quite enjoying his Real side. 13/14 was of course a great year. And they look strong again this season. A midfield consisting of Modric, Kroos, James and Isco/Bale yet maintain balance, tactical discipline and getting everybody to work hard. Didn't think anyone would be able to pull it off.Great team, an abundance of technical abiltity. Season is still long of course.Give Ancelotti a team in a great condition and he is brilliant, as we found with the double, it's when the wheels start coming off he gets found wanting, in my opinion. pHaRaOn, The Chels and darrus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 26, 2014 Share Posted October 26, 2014 We hadn't been played off the park like that at home under Jose for a long time. They've lost 3 of their best players to us but I'd still expect them to beat us tbh because their balance between attack and defence in the big games is almost perfect.That excuse works for this game but what about against City when he was fit and we were playing against 10 men? It's clearly Jose's tactic to sit back after 1-0 and as Gary Neville put it, that lack of killer instinct against the big teams is what may well stop us winning the CL. For example if we'd gone at Atletico at 1-0 last year instead of sitting back who knows what would have happened?It was an absolute clinic. I wasn't even disappointed after the game, I just hoped we'd reach that level someday. Mourinho obviously thought so too since we signed two of their players and recalled Courtois The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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