The Mourinho Thread

[zolayes 14,489]

Sorry, I misunderstood this post. I never said that there should be anyone else managing us. I just said that I am expecting something else from us and that Mourinho promised that things will change. I never asked him to be sacked or anything, I just said that. Maybe things will change in the next games, who knows? But I think I have the right to express my dissapointment on this forum, just like you have the right to disagree with me. And you were not the one saying anything about my country, I wasn't talking about you there.

Agreed, but from respecting the man and loving him to asking all of us to "worship" him there's a long way.

my disagreement with you is that I can't remember you ever praising anything about our club .

Everything is about how other clubs are better , Perhaps I am wrong but that is the impression

I have gathered . Incidentally I do NOT like Jose . I can easily think of six Chelsea managers I

liked better , But it is hard to be sure we have had a better one.

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

They were close to losing it and so were we. Exactly what I said: an argument that goes both ways. Atletico won La Liga against all odds playing similar to us. Borussia won Bundesliga against almost all odds two years ago, playing spectacular football and were in the CL finals, one year later, nearly winning it. Another argument that can go both ways. So there you have it: there's no recipe for success. You can win it playing "like us" or playing the other way. Except that there are a lot more teams that won it by going "the other way". And that's a fact.

So you think that choosing which club to follow is a rational thing to do? Like "hey, let's pick a club. let's see: these guys play like this, these guys win things, these guys are from this town and so on"? Mate, I follow Chelsea because that's what I felt like when I was younger. It didn't involve any maths. And just because this has been our hallmark for ages, doesn't mean that we all have to agree that it is the only way or that we can't do better.

You still don't get it do you? Real didn't win it playing their brand of football, they were a beaten team but for that one corner at the very end of the game. Chelsea won playing their brand of football which was to soak up the pressure and trying to look for opportunities to counter attack... believe me there is a difference, had we tried to play a cavalier offensive game against Bayern we surely would've lost. He was defending their brand of soccer was why they won. Anyway I digress...

Unless you live in the Borough of Chelsea, which I highly doubt you do, most people choose a club that speaks to them and meets their philosophy for how they think the game should be played. You say you chose them because you felt like it as a kid? LOL I guess there's no one way to choose a club to say you'll back till the end of time but I would imagine the footballing philosophy has to play some part... What is it you enjoy about the club then? you just blindly follow it because you have done so for however long? the ethics, philosophy, spirit, policies and tradition have nothing to do with it? you just like them because you like them?

[Cosmin 2,484]

my disagreement with you is that I can't remember you ever praising anything about our club .

Everything is about how other clubs are better , Perhaps I am wrong but that is the impression

I have gathered . Incidentally I do NOT like Jose . I can easily think of six Chelsea managers I

liked better , But it is hard to be sure we have had a better one.

You are wrong and you have gathered the wrong impression. I praised our board, for example, just after getting rid of Torres and signing Remy. That's if you really want a certain example. I praised Brana recently, after his great attacking displays, I praised Azpi, I praised JT etc. And even if I wouldn't have done that, you are still wrong to ignore all of my arguments and tell me that I'm not a Chelsea fan. If you disagree with me, I think it would be fair to tell me why I'm wrong and explain your point of view, instead of making false assumptions. I've been on this forum since 2010 (I was 17 back then). Do you really think that a 17 years old would join a forum like this and keep pretending to be a fan for 4 years?

[ballackstothat 43]

cosmin what you have to learn is one thing, and one only. WIN OR LOSE UP THE BLUES, that's an old school chelsea saying!

[zolayes 14,489]

You are wrong and you have gathered the wrong impression. I praised our board, for example, just after getting rid of Torres and signing Remy. That's if you really want a certain example. I praised Brana recently, after his great attacking displays, I praised Azpi, I praised JT etc. And even if I wouldn't have done that, you are still wrong to ignore all of my arguments and tell me that I'm not a Chelsea fan. If you disagree with me, I think it would be fair to tell me why I'm wrong and explain your point of view, instead of making false assumptions. I've been on this forum since 2010 (I was 17 back then). Do you really think that a 17 years old would join a forum like this and keep pretending to be a fan for 4 years?

I dont read every post on here but I have noticed you as being quite critical and negative .. not

that you are alone in that respect .

[Cholo 428]

cosmin what you have to learn is one thing, and one only. WIN OR LOSE UP THE BLUES, that's an old school chelsea saying!

Should be mandatory to accept when you register on the board

[ballackstothat 43]

You are wrong and you have gathered the wrong impression. I praised our board, for example, just after getting rid of Torres and signing Remy. That's if you really want a certain example. I praised Brana recently, after his great attacking displays, I praised Azpi, I praised JT etc. And even if I wouldn't have done that, you are still wrong to ignore all of my arguments and tell me that I'm not a Chelsea fan. If you disagree with me, I think it would be fair to tell me why I'm wrong and explain your point of view, instead of making false assumptions. I've been on this forum since 2010 (I was 17 back then). Do you really think that a 17 years old would join a forum like this and keep pretending to be a fan for 4 years?

right this is the situation. chelsea have no manager. jose has been sacked, left, whatever. who do you want as manger to play the attacking brand of football you bang on about.

[Cholo 428]

helsea have no manager. jose has been sacked, left, whatever. who do you want as manger

Simeone !!! He was very successful!!!

and he plays attacking....wait.

[Cosmin 2,484]

You still don't get it do you? Real didn't win it playing their brand of football, they were a beaten team but for that one corner at the very end of the game. Chelsea won playing their brand of football which was to soak up the pressure and trying to look for opportunities to counter attack... believe me there is a difference, had we tried to play a cavalier offensive game against Bayern we surely would've lost. He was defending their brand of soccer was why they won. Anyway I digress...

Unless you live in the Borough of Chelsea, which I highly doubt you do, most teams choose a club that speaks to them and meets their philosophy for how they think the game should be played. You say you chose them because you felt like it as a kid? LOL I guess there's no one way to choose a club to say you'll back till the end of time but I would imagine the footballing philosophy has to play some part... What is it you enjoy about the club then? you just blindly follow it because you have done so for however long? the ethics, philosophy, spirit, policies and tradition have nothing to do with it? you just like them because you like them?

Real didn't win it, but they somehow got the trophy. Ok, I get it. Let's move on.

I started to follow Chelsea in 2003, when Mutu joined the club and the Romanian media started to be really hyped about Chelsea. I was watching every Chelsea game covered by the television. I still remember that Gronjkaer goal against Monaco, I still remember the blondes (Gudjhonsen and Duff), the tank that was Makelele and so on. Yes, there was this spirit, there was that atmosphere at the Bridge that made me like them. But I was way too young to understand tactics and philosophies. And I completely disagree with the statement that Chelsea always played like this. Remember the second part of the 2008-2009 season, when Hiddink was our manager.

cosmin what you have to learn is one thing, and one only. WIN OR LOSE UP THE BLUES, that's an old school chelsea saying!

If I was to give up on Chelsea or anything, I could've done it way earlier. I feel ofended that you jumped to the conclusion that I am not supporting the team "win or lose" only from the fact that I criticized the way that we played against City.

[Cosmin 2,484]

right this is the situation. chelsea have no manager. jose has been sacked, left, whatever. who do you want as manger to play the attacking brand of football you bang on about.

If this is the situation, I would certainly want Jurgen Klopp to be our next manager. Or Guss Hiddink. And no, I would never want Guardiola here.

[zolayes 14,489]

If this is the situation, I would certainly want Jurgen Klopp to be our next manager. Or Guss Hiddink. And no, I would never want Guardiola here.

we should get Tommy Doc back

[ballackstothat 43]

we should get Tommy Doc back

aye bute him up the bollox chopper.

[Cholo 428]

Klopp is also struggling. Lost against Leverkusen and now again against Mainz. Already lagging behind Bayern. He also fked up some tactical things in the matches. So there's never a guarantee for a win. Atletico also lost to Piräus and drew Almeria. I'd stick with Jose over any other manager any time!

[Chelsea Legend 11 4,062]

I started to follow Chelsea in 2003, when Mutu joined the club and the Romanian media started to be really hyped about Chelsea. I was watching every Chelsea game covered by the television. I still remember that Gronjkaer goal against Monaco, I still remember the blondes (Gudjhonsen and Duff), the tank that was Makelele and so on. Yes, there was this spirit, there was that atmosphere at the Bridge that made me like them. But I was way too young to understand tactics and philosophies. And I completely disagree with the statement that Chelsea always played like this. Remember the second part of the 2008-2009 season, when Hiddink was our manager.

Yes, everyone has their reasons for coming to love the club. The point I was making is for the majority of the clubs rich history we've played this sort of football. Hiddink had us going pretty good football but I'm trying to remember what performances in particular you would say were a complete departure from the way we always played? Barca at the bridge?

The team you've come to know and love has always built their foundation on defense first.

[Cosmin 2,484]

Klopp is also struggling. Lost against Leverkusen and now again against Mainz. Already lagging behind Bayern. He also fked up some tactical things in the matches. So there's never a guarantee for a win. Atletico also lost to Piräus and drew Almeria. I'd stick with Jose over any other manager any time!

Me too and I never said otherwise. I said that I would choose Klopp, in case Mourinho leaves us (it was just hypotetical situation), because I like his style and I like what he did at Dortmund. He's struggling now, yes, but that's not the point.

[ballackstothat 43]

Klopp is also struggling. Lost against Leverkusen and now again against Mainz. Already lagging behind Bayern. He also fked up some tactical things in the matches. So there's never a guarantee for a win. Atletico also lost to Piräus and drew Almeria. I'd stick with Jose over any other manager any time!

so is fraudiola struggling, i would have liked hiddink to have been given the job. just the timing wasn't right replacing the mongs.

the guvnor's back so it don't matter,

[Cholo 428]

so is fraudiola struggling

Would be really pissed as a Bayern-fan how he fked up the best team in the world. Playing the both best wingbacks in the World Alaba and Lahm in midfield and broke down their beautiful attacking game to boring short pass play. I seriously don't know what is wrong with that man. Ball possession>Result seems to be his aim.

[Cosmin 2,484]

Yes, everyone has their reasons for coming to love the club. The point I was making is for the majority of the clubs rich history we've played this sort of football. Hiddink had us going pretty good football but I'm trying to remember what performances in particular you would say were a complete departure from the way we always played? Barca at the bridge?

The team you've come to know and love has always built their foundation on defense first.

Barca at the Bridge under Hiddink was a way better approach than Barca at the Bridge under Di Matteo, for example. You can't even compare the ties. But still, it's true that Hiddink had a better squad back then. This is another topic of discusion.

I think you are falling in the trap set by the media. Chelsea is not a defensive club. We just tend to adopt this approach at certain points of the seasons and this is what bothers me, to be honest. But Chelsea is also the club that set the goal scoring record in the Premier League, under Carletto, for example. Chelsea won a lot of games by playing good attacking football, even under Mourinho. The fact is that most of the time, we are not parking the bus. We just do it on some occasions, but I think that we should stop doing that because now our team is strong enough to allow Chelsea to look like a balanced positive team against any opponent. We have enough quality to try controlling any game or at least avoid parking the bus, even if it's against Barcelona or Real Madrid. Since I'm at it, I would like to point out again that, as I said before, City are far from going through their best times, and we should've at least tried to take advantage of that, by playing with a little bit more courage against them. Imagine if we were 8 points clear now. All that enthusiasm and that joy. And the message that would've been sent to any other team in the League and Europe: we are Chelsea, we just beat the champions, we are 8 points clear top of the league and we are not joking about this. Instead, now people are talking about how we parked the bus at 1-0 with 11 vs 10...

[Myself 793]

Is the forum always this toxic after a draw or loss?

[ballackstothat 43]

Barca at the Bridge under Hiddink was a way better approach than Barca at the Bridge under Di Matteo, for example. You can't even compare the ties. But still, it's true that Hiddink had a better squad back then. This is another topic of discusion.

I think you are falling in the trap set by the media. Chelsea is not a defensive club. We just tend to adopt this approach at certain points of the seasons and this is what bothers me, to be honest. But Chelsea is also the club that set the goal scoring record in the Premier League, under Carletto, for example. Chelsea won a lot of games by playing good attacking football, even under Mourinho. The fact is that most of the time, we are not parking the bus. We just do it on some occasions, but I think that we should stop doing that because now our team is strong enough to allow Chelsea to look like a balanced positive team against any opponent. We have enough quality to try controlling any game or at least avoid parking the bus, even if it's against Barcelona or Real Madrid. Since I'm at it, I would like to point out again that, as I said before, City are far from going through their best times, and we should've at least tried to take advantage of that, by playing with a little bit more courage against them. Imagine if we were 8 points clear now. All that enthusiasm and that joy. And the message that would've been sent to any other team in the League and Europe: we are Chelsea, we just beat the champions, we are 8 points clear top of the league and we are not joking about this. Instead, now people are talking about how we parked the bus at 1-0 with 11 vs 10...

i'm not buying into the media crap cosmo, you fucking space cadet, you are. i don't think taking arsenal apart 6-0 last year was being defensive, and me and no one else is moaning about that. your the one focused on how defensive we are no one else.fucking hell we beat everton last week 6-3 and we weren't defensive enough now we come away from the etihad with a draw were too defensive. you just can't please some people.