Popular Post! Fernando 6,590 Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 1, 2014 It's good to see this thread without all the trolls. Mourinho shut them up once again! :-) Phil Driver, Barbara, nachikethas and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 The Special One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,539 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Awwww.His car air freshener looks like him to.Sort of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 great subs. Only think I couldnt understand why he kept playing Mata as a RW while we had Eden on the pitch?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Peace. 4,352 Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 1, 2014 great subs. Only think I couldnt understand why he kept playing Mata as a RW while we had Eden on the pitch?!Well, I am not 100% sure, but...As someone was wondering during the game "why is he on the wing while he is our slowest AM ?", it gotta be said that he is also the worst when it comes to defensive contribution. Furthermore, our pivot is not setting the world on fire — far from it. It happens that when Mata plays in the middle, there is a huge gap in the middle of the parc ; between him and the pivot ; which allow the opposition to overflow us in midfield.Thus I believe that Mourinho has played Mata down the right wing to nullify as much as possible his deficiency in defensive duties, and as a consequence to not lose the midfield battle. We also have to take into account that Azpilicueta was the right back and Ramires can give a hand on that right side (thanks to his mobility).To conclude, Mourinho did not play Mata on the right wing in order to make Mata look bad as some people were saying (*shake my head*), but rather because it was where his defensive flaws would less hurt the team — I guess... pHaRaOn, Term-X, kellzfresh and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Well, I am not 100% sure, but... As someone was wondering during the game "why is he on the wing while he is our slowest AM ?", it gotta be said that he is also the worst when it comes to defensive contribution. Furthermore, our pivot is not setting the world on fire — far from it. It happens that when Mata plays in the middle, there is a huge gap in the middle of the parc ; between him and the pivot ; which allow the opposition to overflow us in midfield. Thus I believe that Mourinho has played Mata down the right wing to nullify as much as possible his deficiency in defensive duties, and as a consequence to not lose the midfield battle. We also have to take into account that Azpilicueta was the right back and Ramires can give a hand on that right side (thanks to his mobility). To conclude, Mourinho did not play Mata on the right wing in order to make Mata look bad as some people were saying (*shake my head*), but rather because it was where his defensive flaws would less hurt the team — I guess... You could be right, but he shouldn't have started Mata on the right considering Southampton's main threat (Shaw & Lallana) are on that flank and most attacks were going through them. Fortunately though he realised this and brought on Willian who is excellent defensively. The fact that Shaw went off at HT also helped - although Clyne is still a decent replacement, Clyne wasn't fully fit. Coupled with the fact that Willian is great at tracking back and that Azpi had a great game defensively, it really stopped So'ton from threatening. laura90 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Its good to see Mourinho actually trying to do the minumum of winning the Premier league title and playing good football without hiding bheind the whole "we're in transition crap". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post! Share Posted January 1, 2014 Its good to see Mourinho actually trying to do the minumum of winning the Premier league title and playing good football without hiding bheind the whole "we're in transition crap".But we are in transition. Beigl, kellzfresh, darrus and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 But we are in transition. We are not.Last two years you could say we are in trasition. But we have also been spending of millions of pounds on players while making no attemp to use our youth academy. A lot of the players that we have nought have settled into the club and we should e capale of winning the title.And considering that Jose has given me little evidence that he will be a long term appontment and will leave in 4 years like all the other clubs. He needs to win things now, and not try and use that excuse.And consaidering that I don't think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 We are not.Last two years you could say we are in trasition. But we have also been spending of millions of pounds on players while making no attemp to use our youth academy. A lot of the players that we have nought have settled into the club and we should e capale of winning the title.And considering that Jose has given me little evidence that he will be a long term appontment and will leave in 4 years like all the other clubs. He needs to win things now, and not try and use that excuse.And consaidering that I don't thinkwe have a new coach. of course we are in transition. look how he tries to change our way of playing. look how mata plays in it. we are definetely in transition. its even hard to believe, that we are only few points of topp without having a world.class DM/Cm and a decent striker. Barbara and Stingray 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Well, I am not 100% sure, but...As someone was wondering during the game "why is he on the wing while he is our slowest AM ?", it gotta be said that he is also the worst when it comes to defensive contribution. Furthermore, our pivot is not setting the world on fire — far from it. It happens that when Mata plays in the middle, there is a huge gap in the middle of the parc ; between him and the pivot ; which allow the opposition to overflow us in midfield.Thus I believe that Mourinho has played Mata down the right wing to nullify as much as possible his deficiency in defensive duties, and as a consequence to not lose the midfield battle. We also have to take into account that Azpilicueta was the right back and Ramires can give a hand on that right side (thanks to his mobility).To conclude, Mourinho did not play Mata on the right wing in order to make Mata look bad as some people were saying (*shake my head*), but rather because it was where his defensive flaws would less hurt the team — I guess...A decent point and it does make me wonder if we solve our pivot problems, will he be playing Mata in there? After all, Sneijder and Ozil wasn't exactly the best of players defensively but had good solid pivots behind them to make that midfield work. But then again, given the situation with Mata right now, doubt we'll be able to see that 'experiment'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 A decent point and it does make me wonder if we solve our pivot problems, will he be playing Mata in there? After all, Sneijder and Ozil wasn't exactly the best of players defensively but had good solid pivots behind them to make that midfield work. But then again, given the situation with Mata right now, doubt we'll be able to see that 'experiment'.We are building a team based on pressing when we defend and that was not the case for José at Inter and Real and because of that he could afford playing Sneijder and Özil at the nr 10 position. The_Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 we have a new coach. of course we are in transition. look how he tries to change our way of playing. look how mata plays in it. we are definetely in transition. its even hard to believe, that we are only few points of topp without having a world.class DM/Cm and a decent striker.We've been changing coaches nearly every season, we still win trophies (we won an FA Cup, Champions league and Europa league under 3 different managers), so even if you believe in the whole idea that we are in transition, that does not give Jose an excuse not to win the title this season, considering he also has January to buy players he should have bought in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 We are building a team based on pressing when we defend and that was not the case for José at Inter and Real and because of that he could afford playing Sneijder and Özil at the nr 10 position.No, Mourinho practically did the same with Inter and Real Madrid and certainly more so with the latter. To say he is only doing it now is somewhat nonsensical especially when transitions are highly important to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom2013 446 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 We've been changing coaches nearly every season, we still win trophies (we won an FA Cup, Champions league and Europa league under 3 different managers), so even if you believe in the whole idea that we are in transition, that does not give Jose an excuse not to win the title this season, considering he also has January to buy players he should have bought in the summer.We won the Champions League all the other titles are minor and a lot less important. And everyone knows how CHelsea won the Champions League... God helped a lot.There is a difference between Champions League/Premiere League and all the other competitions.And what really measures the quality of a team in the big football countries is the League. For example Liverpool won the CHampions and at that time Chelsea was by far the best team in the country and maybe in the world. Chelsea won the Champions League and was 6th in the League.Winning is important, but you can't compare Europa League or a minor cup with the Premiere League. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubber bullets 1,183 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 We won the Champions League all the other titles are minor and a lot less important. And everyone knows how CHelsea won the Champions League... God helped a lot.There is a difference between Champions League/Premiere League and all the other competitions.And what really measures the quality of a team in the big football countries is the League. For example Liverpool won the CHampions and at that time Chelsea was by far the best team in the country and maybe in the world. Chelsea won the Champions League and was 6th in the League.Winning is important, but you can't compare Europa League or a minor cup with the Premiere League.I'm saying that in the last couple of years that you could call being in a transition we were still winning trophies, and its my frim belief that this team (compared to the others) should be able to win the title this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I'm saying that in the last couple of years that you could call being in a transition we were still winning trophies, and its my frim belief that this team (compared to the others) should be able to win the title this season.The Cup's are a lottery and shouldn't really be used as a barometer of club progress, like for example in 2012 when we won the FA Cup and CL, was great yes and i reveled in Munich all summer, but on the other hand that 6th place finish eat away at me. Most teams, even the crap one's, win atleast 10-12 games a season in all comps, like with Wigan last season, 6 of them could fall on FA Cup week and they get the cup.I will make my own assessment on the league, if we say finish 2nd but take the Champions to the last day, with more and more games like today and Liverpool as the season goes on, i would go into the close season feeling a lot better about where we are heading than i did in 2012 (even if we win nothing this season compared to 2 knockout cup's in 2012).But you are right in the fact that the phrase 'transition' is wearing a bit thin, we still are technically, but we are in the late stages of it, so we should still have enough to challenge, at the very least. Rubber bullets, Strike and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blu35_army 551 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Just Win the FA Cup, 2nd in league, and Semifinalist in EL should make me satisfied.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I really want to win the league. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Jose said in the summer we are going to get some people, and next season we will be important contenders, how about this season? I know we are weighed down by Ba, Etoo and Torres, but we could give it a good go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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