The Mourinho Thread

[Styles 9,790]

Typical Mourinho. Even fucking Young gets a chance ahead of Di Maria to prove himself.

But Mou cant for once try something and give chance to others. Traore, Moses, last season Ake, RLC are all just figures for Mou. No wonder our bench is so poor if Mou doesnt trust anyone to prove. Mou keep playing Ramires on RW, what the hell? And ok if we played better or at least get results. But no. And he still doesnt make a change.

In every damn club players make some sort of surprises and get ahead of regulars or have at least some concrete impact apart from first 11. Bellerin, Young, Ibe,...what Mou does? Player plays shit and he will still continue to play him because of ''consistency''. Fuck that. If Iva plays poor, drop him. If Willian plays poor drop him. If Cesc plays poor, drop him. If you dont have players to replace, buy them. Thats why the window is for. Stop saying we have good team and then keep playing fucking Ramires on wing...and in mid season if things wont go his way, he will blame refs, players, lack of rotation, lack of depth etc. Same old, same old.

If you keep Moses, Traore, Ake etc give them the fucking chance. We dont have world class team that cant be benched. If you intend to use them for 3 games per year, then get some seniors who dont need play time, but will do their job like Belletti for example did in past.

Well said.

[lionsden 4,689]

Typical Mourinho. Even fucking Young gets a chance ahead of Di Maria to prove himself.

But Mou cant for once try something and give chance to others. Traore, Moses, last season Ake, RLC are all just figures for Mou. No wonder our bench is so poor if Mou doesnt trust anyone to prove. Mou keep playing Ramires on RW, what the hell? And ok if we played better or at least get results. But no. And he still doesnt make a change.

In every damn club players make some sort of surprises and get ahead of regulars or have at least some concrete impact apart from first 11. Bellerin, Young, Ibe,...what Mou does? Player plays shit and he will still continue to play him because of ''consistency''. Fuck that. If Iva plays poor, drop him. If Willian plays poor drop him. If Cesc plays poor, drop him. If you dont have players to replace, buy them. Thats why the window is for. Stop saying we have good team and then keep playing fucking Ramires on wing...and in mid season if things wont go his way, he will blame refs, players, lack of rotation, lack of depth etc. Same old, same old.

If you keep Moses, Traore, Ake etc give them the fucking chance. We dont have world class team that cant be benched. If you intend to use them for 3 games per year, then get some seniors who dont need play time, but will do their job like Belletti for example did in past.

Absolutely fantastic post. For example I genuinely believe Nathan Ake would have done a much better job than fabregas in majority of the big games he has played and done so poorly in. for one the youngster is more athletic and both physically and tactically stronger. He's also significantly more tenacious. Players aren't running or in some instances even jogging past Ake like they do fabregas with ease and He's not the type to go into hiding either but Jose is the very antithesis of a risk taker.

[Styles 9,790]

Absolutely fantastic post. For example I genuinely believe Nathan Ake would have done a much better job than fabregas in majority of the big games he has played and done so poorly in. for one the youngster is more athletic and both physically and tactically stronger. He's also significantly more tenacious. Players aren't running or in some instances even jogging past Ake like fabregas and He's not the type to go into hiding either but Jose is the very antithesis of a risk taker.

If things are going well nobody gets a chance because, well, why would they? The team is winning.

If things are going bad nobody gets a chance because, well, why would they? You need experienced heads.

The young talent currently in the ranks is completely wasted on this club.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Absolutely fantastic post. For example I genuinely believe Nathan Ake would have done a much better job than fabregas in majority of the big games he has played and done so poorly in. for one the youngster is more athletic and both physically and tactically stronger. He's also significantly more tenacious. Players aren't running or in some instances even jogging past Ake like fabregas and He's not the type to go into hiding either but Jose is the very antithesis of a risk taker.

Imo Fabregas will have to be given a Pirlo role if we want to continue to play him in bigger matches - that is, playing behind 2 athletic midfielders who can recover for him and basically be his legs and tackling ability. (ex used: Vidal. I suppose Willian could go there in emergencies.)

Cesc

*Vidal* Matic

Oscar

The downside is that it will end in Hazard being shoehorned into a second striker role, supporting Diego Costa in attack. Which could either end well or badly for him.

It could also spell the beginning of the end for Iva, JT in defence as it will be impossible to protect them when 2 midfielders already have to do the work of 3, let alone be 30% of the defence.

[lionsden 4,689]

Imo Fabregas will have to be given a Pirlo role if we want to continue to play him in bigger matches - that is, playing behind 2 athletic midfielders who can recover for him and basically be his legs and tackling ability. (ex used: Vidal. I suppose Willian could go there in emergencies.)

Cesc

*Vidal* Matic

Oscar

The downside is that it will end in Hazard being shoehorned into a second striker role, supporting Diego Costa in attack. Which could either end well or badly for him.

It could also spell the beginning of the end for Iva, JT in defence as it will be impossible to protect them when 2 midfielders already have to do the work of 3, let alone be 30% of the defence.

Isn't it ironic that Jose, a manager who built his career on athletic and hardworking players signed one of the most unathletic midfielders in europe to be his main man in midfield. A crucial position of the pitch where lack of pace/athleticism is easily exposed and exploited unless ofcourse the player has the tactical intelligence and awareness of a Makelele or a Busquet. the irony of life.

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

Isn't it ironic that Jose, a manager who built his career on athletic and hardworking players signed one of the most unathletic midfielders in europe to be his main man in midfield. A crucial position of the pitch where lack of pace/athleticism is easily exposed and exploited unless ofcourse the player has the tactical intelligence and awareness of a Makelele or a Busquet. the irony of life.

I honestly can't believe Jose did not make an approach for Vidal - he has the marks of Essien, one of the best midfielders ever to play for Chelsea before Ghana destroyed him with poor treatment and many consequential, consecutive knee injuries (imo). Fabregas is a notable exception, honestly I think his purchase was due to the lack of availability of Koke than any other reason. Barcelona sold him to us on the cheap for a reason, I guess. A midfielder that lives in a bubble. Which baffles me further as to why he would not buy a Vidal to add more protection for him.

Still. There are solutions to this - City face a similar problem in the pivot of Toure-DM, a lazy midfielder who doesn't like to run backwards. They get around it by attacking and crossing their fingers the opposition either sit back or are in such a dysfunctional state that they cannot string a set of passes together. Arsenal do something similar with Cazorla-Coquelin. It's also why they collapse when they come up against teams with equal attacking prowess and/or a defensive midfield/defence with any pace and recovery players. IE City vs Barcelona 2014-15 CL both legs (Busquets, Rakitic, Iniesta, MSN), CFC vs Arsenal SB 2013/14 (Matic-Luiz-Oscar).

To be honest I have a hunch that both Ramires and Fabregas would not have played had Oscar and Moses been available, Jose is not blind, he sees the weaknesses (unless it's Ivanovic), and Matic-Willian-Oscar midfield is a lot closer to a traditional Jose Mourinho midfield than Matic-Cesc-#10. Cesc is fantastic for breaking down bottom 10 teams, less effective for 5-10 teams, and a fucking liability for the top 4 sides. Which is also why the whole "Oscar fell out with Mou and therefore the injury is a lie" conspiracy does not wash with me.

[termninja 5,290]

aW YEAH pEDrO IS FUcKInG AawESsOME

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Isn't it ironic that Jose, a manager who built his career on athletic and hardworking players signed one of the most unathletic midfielders in europe to be his main man in midfield. A crucial position of the pitch where lack of pace/athleticism is easily exposed and exploited unless ofcourse the player has the tactical intelligence and awareness of a Makelele or a Busquet. the irony of life.

Indeed spot on on Cesc.

Imo he will have Mata fate in the future. Good player, likable and great stats. But he is not the man for the very top. Not for Mou team at least.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

That place is hell, i've been there and they all worship a female poster like a goddess.

It's like we argue for 5 pages and then Barbara comes in and we all steer our attention towards her and nobody says a thing about footbal for 3 pages lol.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

You should ignore Zolayes, he insults almost anyone every time they say something he doesnt agree with or likes the sound off, he wouldnt know the phrase decent debate if itstared him in the face.

Anyone else would get a warning for talking to you like that but somehow he gets off Scot free, again!!!!!

Leave the moderating to the moderators, please.

I've cleaned the last two pages of shit up. Talk your bitching elsewhere, bitches.

[Jase 43,479]

That place is hell, i've been there and they all worship a female poster like a goddess. It's like we argue for 5 pages and then Barbara comes in and we all steer our attention towards her and nobody says a thing about footbal for 3 pages lol.

Post of the month.

[Jase 43,479]

Jose Mourinho must understand player safety is important - Fabrice Muamba

[Fernando 6,585]

Well I think it's clear why Pedro choose us over United.

Is not like we are something great above United.

It has to do with lifestyle and management and Mourinho plays a big part of that.

One of the reason why United was so successful was not because of the "United" allure, but because of SAF.

Same can be said of Mourinho.

It would be great for once if he stays for us beyond 5 years, but I'm having reservation. His way of handling things at times can be chaotic, but if the club is willing to turn a deaf ear to such things and see the value this manager brings, then long term can be a possibility.

But all depends on how the hierarchy continue to act towards Mourinho shenanigans and weather his lack of youth integration means anything to them......

[Reddish-Blue 2,510]

Well I think it's clear why Pedro choose us over United.

Is not like we are something great above United.

It has to do with lifestyle and management and Mourinho plays a big part of that.

One of the reason why United was so successful was not because of the "United" allure, but because of SAF.

Same can be said of Mourinho.

It would be great for once if he stays for us beyond 5 years, but I'm having reservation. His way of handling things at times can be chaotic, but if the club is willing to turn a deaf ear to such things and see the value this manager brings, then long term can be a possibility.

But all depends on how the hierarchy continue to act towards Mourinho shenanigans and weather his lack of youth integration means anything to them......

I still don't get Mourinho's reluctance towards youth...he just masterminded our league title success last season and we've started the new season with two below-par performances with a number of senior players looking distracted, off the pace.

Why not give 1 youngster a chance? How will we ever know whether or not they are good enough if they don't play?

[Madmax 9,219]

Why not give 1 youngster a chance? How will we ever know whether or not they are good enough if they don't play?

Don't worry, Mou can judge in 10 minutes.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

The likes of Pedro don't necessarily act as a detriment to youth development. At the age of 28 and at the relatively low cost of £22m, he can act as a stop gap for..

Ah who am I kidding, he wouldn't play the kids if the whole first team was injured and his wife was being held hostage

[yuvala 2,167]

Honestly I just dont see any of out current youth players playing for us.

Bamford maybe as 3rd striker, maybe someone else with a few minutes here and there.. but cant see anyone really "breaking" into the team.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I can understand people getting frustrated on Mourinho not using any of our talented youths and I am a little too...

But at the same time I can understand why he doesn't. We want to retain the league and aim for CL. Youths are more of a risk to creating mistakes.

Look at Arsenal over the past 11 years.

So then when is it time? By that excuse, youth should never be used.

[Roquila 1,335]

Post of the month.

...that has been deleted (or hidden) so I can't see what went on. Boooooo!

Can't have fun these days

[Jase 43,479]

Can't have fun these days

This is what happened when you have that twat @ in charge.