The Mourinho Thread

[YouNameIt 1,511]

Yes we need stability, but we sacked AVB and won the CL, Arsenal would crave for something like that. After all, they have stuck with Wenger and won fuck all.

Funny isn't it?

Well, you make 2 mistakes.

1) You assume that the fact we won the CL had to do with our manager more than the squad itself. While I recognize the impact RDM had, its the effort of the players that took us so far.

2) Comparing us with Arsenal is just wrong in every single way. They sell their stars, we buy and make them. Their owners just care about making money.

You cannot just draw conclusions like that. We need stability. Or else we will end up with more Rafa's.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Rob Beasley is pretty close with Jose, but I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. Anyway, these are Beasley's words:

He is 50 now and sees life differently and not just because he now has to wear spectacles to read. He has triumphed in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain — making history in every country. Every footballing ambition has been fulfilled and now he has a new one.

To settle down and build a dynasty, just like his close friend Alex Ferguson at Manchester United. And where else but the place where he enjoyed his football so much?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4911375/Jose-Mourinho-is-in-the-Blue-corner-after-Essien-birthday-woe.html#ixzz2S8aGaO8n

[Special Juan 28,141]

Well, you make 2 mistakes.

1) You assume that the fact we won the CL had to do with our manager more than the squad itself. While I recognize the impact RDM had, its the effort of the players that took us so far.

2) Comparing us with Arsenal is just wrong in every single way. They sell their stars, we buy and make them. Their owners just care about making money.

You cannot just draw conclusions like that. We need stability. Or else we will end up with more Rafa's.

No, I don't assume we won the CL because we sacked AVB, we won the CL because we refused to die and never give up.

I wasn't comparing us with Arsenal I was using the fact that sticking with one manager doesn't guarantee anything, using them as a perfect example.

[Jase 43,479]

Yes we need stability, but we sacked AVB and won the CL, Arsenal would crave for something like that. After all, they have stuck with Wenger and won fuck all.

Funny isn't it?

Yes while that may be the case, Wenger is no Mourinho. Had Mourinho been managing that Arsenal squad, they would not have gone 8 years without a trophy. Anyway regarding stability, I know many people have pointed out that Wenger and even Moyes have managed their respective clubs for yonks and have won nothing in recent years and such longevity/stability doesn't exist anymore but think what we would just want is for a manager to stay for at least 3-5 years, build a proper stable team and move us forward. Don't think anyone is really crying for a manager to stay here for more than 10 yes etc because that is unlikely gonna happen in today's modern game and while sacking managers in past years have still brought us success in terms of trophies, don't tell me you are not sick and feeling tired of the constant sacking and replacing managers like almost every year?

Furthermore, sacking managers may have brought us continuous success but it has proved to be a problem when it comes to intergrating players from the academy into the first team. Because of this short term mentality we have with the managers that they have to constantly be winning trophies or otherwise they will be sacked the minute something goes wrong, the managers are unable to bring in the youth players and utilize them in the 1st team as they are constantly under pressure to win games and trophies. A little bit of stability, something like 3-5 years perhaps, moving the team/club forward even without winning trophy for 1-2 season wouldn't kill, would it?

[YouNameIt 1,511]

No, I don't assume we won the CL because we sacked AVB, we won the CL because we refused to die and never give up.

I wasn't comparing us with Arsenal I was using the fact that sticking with one manager doesn't guarantee anything, using them as a perfect example.

So, what do you have to say about SAF? Isn't that a perfect example aswell?

Wenger is wenger. He is no Mourinho or SAF. Plus managing Arsenal and Chelsea isnt the same thing at all. Chelsea have other and higher ambitions.

Like I said, you cannot put two things together like that.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Yes while that may be the case, Wenger is no Mourinho. Had Mourinho been managing that Arsenal squad, they would not have gone 8 years without a trophy. Anyway regarding stability, I know many people have pointed out that Wenger and even Moyes have managed their respective clubs for yonks and have won nothing in recent years and such longevity/stability doesn't exist anymore but think what we would just want is for a manager to stay for at least 3-5 years, build a proper stable team and move us forward. Don't think anyone is really crying for a manager to stay here for more than 10 yes etc because that is unlikely gonna happen in today's modern game and while sacking managers in past years have still brought us success in terms of trophies, don't tell me you are not sick and feeling tired of the constant sacking and replacing managers like almost every year?

Furthermore, sacking managers may have brought us continuous success but it has proved to be a problem when it comes to intergrating players from the academy into the first team. Because of this short term mentality we have with the managers that they have to constantly be winning trophies or otherwise they will be sacked the minute something goes wrong, the managers are unable to bring in the youth players and utilize them in the 1st team as they are constantly under pressure to win games and trophies. A little bit of stability, something like 3-5 years perhaps, moving the team/club forward even without winning trophy for 1-2 season wouldn't kill, would it?

Good post - I do think the comments about Moyes not winning anything are a little unfair - Everton have NEVER (in recent history) had a squad as good as Le Arse... What Moyes has achieved with a small budget and small wage structure is pretty good IMHO... I hope he gets to shine at a bigger club - I would always pick Mourinho ahead of him...

[Cosmin 2,484]

Thank you mister, you are officially an idiot.

" short passing and movement, working the ball through various channels, and maintaining possession."

Isnt beautiful ?

Wow, you must be so proud about the things you post around here! Such a smart guy!

Fucking wanker.

[Jase 43,479]

Good post - I do think the comments about Moyes not winning anything are a little unfair - Everton have NEVER (in recent history) had a squad as good as Le Arse... What Moyes has achieved with a small budget and small wage structure is pretty good IMHO... I hope he gets to shine at a bigger club - I would always pick Mourinho ahead of him...

Everton might not have a good squad as Arsenal but to go 10/11 years without even winning 1 trophy like the League Cup and FA Cup is mind boggling especially when you see lesser clubs such Birmingham and Swansea have won at least a trophy in the League Cup during that period. And not to mention, Everton have had some good team down the years as well and they are better than those 2 said teams.

[Special Juan 28,141]

So, what do you have to say about SAF? Isn't that a perfect example aswell?

Wenger is wenger. He is no Mourinho or SAF. Plus managing Arsenal and Chelsea isnt the same thing at all. Chelsea have other and higher ambitions.

Like I said, you cannot put two things together like that.

Every manager now is striving to be another SAF, but football and owners now won't allow it, SAF is old school, there is him and then the rest simple as that.

You are speaking to me as if I don't want stability, I do but on the flip side you think it guarantees success and it doesn't.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Rob Beasley is pretty close with Jose, but I wouldn't jump to any conclusions. Anyway, these are Beasley's words:

He is 50 now and sees life differently and not just because he now has to wear spectacles to read. He has triumphed in Portugal, England, Italy and Spain — making history in every country. Every footballing ambition has been fulfilled and now he has a new one.

To settle down and build a dynasty, just like his close friend Alex Ferguson at Manchester United. And where else but the place where he enjoyed his football so much?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4911375/Jose-Mourinho-is-in-the-Blue-corner-after-Essien-birthday-woe.html#ixzz2S8aGaO8n

If that's true then I think it would be ideal. I've long said that Roman and Mourinho getting back together could be bad if they haven't grown as men, but that doesn't seem to be the case. For the first time it appears as though he needs us almost as much as we might need him.

That story about Essien's birthday is shocking if true, but it also isn't that surprising. You don't get the feeling that there's a real team spirit at that club and it makes those photos of Luiz's birthday all the more special.

It's also serendipitous that this is all happening in the shadow of Bayern's demolition job on Barcelona which might make those at Chelsea a bit less enamoured with that style of football. Bayern played like we used to, strong at the back, quick on the counter and with leaders throughout the team. That's something that the right man could build here in relatively short time.

[ulsterchelsea 3,221]

I also would love to be enlightened to as to which paper is reliable & which one is not ?

As we all know, rumors will fly, daily. Whom to believe then ?

Today´s news:

" Jose to return but not as No. 1 "

he might be under M. Emenalo, I read. If that´s the case, he might as well not come. Have we not seen the thin Chelsea´s squad for months under his guidance ?

personally I dont read the rags at all, any of them. If its sky or bbc then ill believe it

[Strike 7,489]

It is no coincidence that the club's best league performances have come under stable club environment

[nono 791]

Him coming here will completely pulverize our youth development program. It will eventually signal the end of the careers of players like De Bruyne at Chelsea. Mourinho plays the full squad even in the fucking Carling Cup. Do not want. Do not come please. No one here seems to remember how bad we were in his last year here.

Get someone who can focus on long term success and not a guy who coaches 1 year and runs away to another club. Managerial equivalent of a prostitute.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Him coming here will completely pulverize our youth development program. It will eventually signal the end of the careers of players like De Bruyne at Chelsea. Mourinho plays the full squad even in the fucking Carling Cup. Do not want. Do not come please. No one here seems to remember how bad we were in his last year here.

Get someone who can focus on long term success and not a guy who coaches 1 year and runs away to another club. Managerial equivalent of a prostitute.

How many coaches have we had in the Abramovic era that have stayed long term? Answer is none. Thats something Roman needs to sort out, which he hopefully will.

As for youth, that stems from the team. Again how many players have broken through to the first team in the last 8 years, who have come through our youth system. Very few in deed. Bertrand at the age of 23, is the most notable one.

Its a sign of the clubs they are at. We are a buying club, along with RM. Thats something the club has to change and not specific to the manager. When you get sacked if you have a bad run of 10 games, you cannot afford to be taking chances. As much as we would like. And KDB wouldn't be someone i would worry about in that sense. More chance of him getting sold by the club it would seem atm, rather than him never getting played if he came back.

[Hutcho 8,443]

Also how bad he was in his last years?

In the 2006/07 season we came second in the prem, won the fa cup and league cup and was when we lost to liverpool on pens in the champions league semi... So we were hardly bad.

Unless you are counting the 07/08 season when he had like 5 games in charge?

[nachikethas 1,154]

This forum is getting more interesting lol

[nadavTKL 1,787]

@ChelsTransfer

Bayern CEO Rummenigge said that Lewandowski's agent, Maik Barthel received a call from Mourinho asking his client to join him at #CFC (Bild)

Older (maybe someone already posted):

Radamel Falcao would appear to be Jose Mourinho's marquee signing this summer upon him rejoining Chelsea (Independent) #CFC #PSG #RMCF

Jose Mourinho is understood to not have a problem working with Roman Abramovich's hierarchy, including Emenalo (Independent) #CFC #PSG #RMCF

Mourinho is so keen to return to #CFC he would accept the job even without being in next season's Champions League (Times) #CFC #PSG #RMC

[Hutcho 8,443]

@ChelsTransfer

Bayern CEO Rummenigge said that Lewandowski's agent, Maik Barthel received a call from Mourinho asking his client to join him at #CFC (Bild)

[Heisenberg 1,824]

Wow, you must be so proud about the things you post around here! Such a smart guy!

Fucking wanker.

I'm honest, you answer was dumb, I had to respond, and it was my feelings toward you at that moment, so I'll tell it first : I'm sorry, I was wrong to respond like that, I sincerely hope you'll excuse that message, have a good day.

[Manuf 1,448]

@ChelsTransfer

Bayern CEO Rummenigge said that Lewandowski's agent, Maik Barthel received a call from Mourinho asking his client to join him at #CFC (Bild)

Lewandowski's agent is called Cezary Kucharski

nvm, apparently Kucharski is in charge of management and Barthel is responsible for transfers.