Chelsea4 1,521 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It's not only Jose's fault the players have to step up there game it's like they don't care about the club. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 *doesn't want A to overshadow B**still talks about A* Muzchap, Miki-Liki and Henrique 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 That's exactly what I'm feeling right now. Mourinho has a big mouth and is a provocative egoist but the players are being let too easily when we look at this situation and also situations of the past. Both camps need to reevaluate their approach and there is literally nothing to lose. We wont go down and we better not get Europa League qualification for the next season. So in the light of that, it does not matter if we finish 6th or 17th. The higher the position the better, of course. It can not be purely tactical fopa week in week out, so if we do get a new manager - will he be given enough time to even stamp his authority on the team? Mourinho is the only one with this kind of luxury to fail and hopefully try again next season with a new approach. We wont and cant do miracles in January.so no matter how bad we get Mourinho should be given next season as well . Is that what you are saying ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Irakozium257 350 Posted December 15, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 15, 2015 It was the last time I was expecting a message this season. There were few times already but I thought sitting beneath Newcastle and Bournemouth in the table will be final nail in the coffin. I'm surprised to be honest but now I believe this will last at least until the summer.That's what happens when the board, Roman and those naive fans at the stadium are under the yoke of a parasite like him. What's more painful is that we will probably win against S'land, and then fans will chant his name, and then he'll still be here. A nightmarish vicious cycle that keeps on giving. bellion, 11Drogba, AWorriedChelseaFan and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Laugh1ngMan 393 Posted December 15, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted December 15, 2015 It's not only Jose's fault the players have to step up there game it's like they don't care about the club.Offcourse they don't care deep down, which professional footballer cares about the club like their fans do these days? U think anyone of our players would be here if we didn't pay the money we did?Look at Lampard and Cech, two big club icons who have gone to our direct rivals without a moment of hesitation. I dont' blame them, it's just how it goes but don't kid yourself that players are playing because they care about a club. Those kind of players are truly an exception.I would like to have a club full of players giving it all for the club, and i think the best way to create such players is to promote youth who have been with chelsea from the start but that ain't happening any time soon under Mou.Mou's job is to be able to motivate the players and get the best out of them but he is failing to do so. People can talk as much as they want about his past succes as to why he should stay in charge but nothing in his past suggest he is any good at managing a club in the long term. In fact his past suggest the opposite.We have to start building an identity and philosophy and choose players/managers who actually will help in providing that! And i don't think Mou is the man for that and neither are a lot of our players Bosnian Blue, LDN Blue, Fernando and 11 others 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Offcourse they don't care deep down, which professional footballer cares about the club like their fans do these days? U think anyone of our players would be here if we didn't pay the money we did?Look at Lampard and Cech, two big club icons who have gone to our direct rivals without a moment of hesitation. I dont' blame them, it's just how it goes but don't kid yourself that players are playing because they care about a club. Those kind of players are truly an exception.I would like to have a club full of players giving it all for the club, and i think the best way to create such players is to promote youth who have been with chelsea from the start but that ain't happening any time soon under Mou.Mou's job is to be able to motivate the players and get the best out of them but he is failing to do so. People can talk as much as they want about his past succes as to why he should stay in charge but nothing in his past suggest he is any good at managing a club in the long term. In fact his past suggest the opposite.We have to start building an identity and philosophy and choose players/managers who actually will help in providing that! And i don't think Mou is the man for that and neither are a lot of our playersSpeaking a lot of sense there mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Some contrasting views here...Why Chelsea’s players have a right to feel betrayed by José MourinhoJose Mourinho is right: His misfiring Chelsea flops HAVE betrayed him this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,810 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 This season could turn out to have a few positives, like - ending player power at the club, backing a manager for a change, owner/board realising that they need to leave all the football/transfer decisions to Jose, clear the dead wood out, getting rid of jcl's and maybe even throw in a European or fa cup in may.Could be a big ugly mess at 5 00pm on Saturday though, of Rafa proportions.... MetsajCFC, Kieran. and stroey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 That's what happens when the board, Roman and those naive fans at the stadium are under the yoke of a parasite like him. What's more painful is that we will probably win against S'land, and then fans will chant his name, and then he'll still be here. A nightmarish vicious cycle that keeps on giving. by all means have a dig at Mourinho, certain players or staff etc but you can phuck right off by having a pop at match going supporters. Some of them invest a lot of time and money following the club all over and actually cannot be bothered with online forums, but still have opinions ......getting likes for vitriol like that just shows the mentality of certain posters Viper22, Muzchap, stroey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 by all means have a dig at Mourinho, certain players or staff etc but you can phuck right off by having a pop at match going supporters. Some of them invest a lot of time and money following the club all over and actually cannot be bothered with online forums, but still have opinions ......getting likes for vitriol like that just shows the mentality of certain postersYeah but below the belt that one old boy! The fans 'have' to sing even if they don't 100% support Mourinho - it's a show de force - the fans are doing exactly what the players aren't !!! Yes, I can fully appreciate the players not wanting to play - but they should! In this case it's either the players or the manager - but until the summer nothing will change, so let's give the lads who spend hundreds of pounds to go see the game some support!I like hearing the lads sing, even if we are losing, that's the spirit we need in the club! Rhino's Skin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Yeah but below the belt that one old boy! The fans 'have' to sing even if they don't 100% support Mourinho - it's a show de force - the fans are doing exactly what the players aren't !!! Yes, I can fully appreciate the players not wanting to play - but they should! In this case it's either the players or the manager - but until the summer nothing will change, so let's give the lads who spend hundreds of pounds to go see the game some support!I like hearing the lads sing, even if we are losing, that's the spirit we need in the club!thanks muzzie.The old adage springs to mind with some of these jerks "if you can't support us when we are down then we don't need your support when we are winning" Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Who? 1 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 i only joined up with this online bollocks because i was feeling depressed, but it's not helping reading this pile of old cunt. jose has to go for fuck sake. he has lost the dressing room and it looks like they want him sacked. he made a complete mug of eva who everyone liked and respected and burned her and will not back down and say sorry so the players are saying fuck you jose. too late to apologise now. he should keep us up and the fuck off. get zola in and the players will feel a real gentleman is a breath of fresh air. i've lost all respect for jose. i dont know if he can keep us up though. depressing. MefiX19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 i only joined up with this online bollocks because i was feeling depressed, but it's not helping reading this pile of old cunt. jose has to go for fuck sake. he has lost the dressing room and it looks like they want him sacked. he made a complete mug of eva who everyone liked and respected and burned her and will not back down and say sorry so the players are saying fuck you jose. too late to apologise now. he should keep us up and the fuck off. get zola in and the players will feel a real gentleman is a breath of fresh air. i've lost all respect for jose. i dont know if he can keep us up though. depressing.lets get this right....you only joined so you could mug off the manager.Welcome and thanks for showing your support for the club first ;-)Good grief man....whats the world coming to stroey and Viper22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekar_blue4ever 1 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 40 million again for stones. It would be madness to go for him again. Wait till end of window and lose him. He certainly is not going to move with Euro's in summer. Better we sign a defender Whu can join us in the first week of Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 40 million again for stones. It would be madness to go for him again. Wait till end of window and lose him. He certainly is not going to move with Euro's in summer. Better we sign a defender Whu can join us in the first week of Jan or recall Ake, get Hector in, etc etc and pay loan fees back to clubs.Mourinho has nothing to lose ( well, except his job but we will brush over trivial matters like that ). Teams are getting at us with pace and we need pace to combat them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I see some posters are touting Bielsa as a possible replacement.Bollix to that.....would rather have old 'arry for a few months than himedit. just seen that Swansea might be in for Bielsa - bullet dodged in the long run Muzchap 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 or recall Ake, get Hector in, etc etc and pay loan fees back to clubs.Mourinho has nothing to lose ( well, except his job but we will brush over trivial matters like that ). Teams are getting at us with pace and we need pace to combat themNot with Hector. He's playing in a lower league amd won't even qualify to be on the subs' bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino's Skin 972 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Not with Hector. He's playing in a lower league amd won't even qualify to be on the subs' bench.Watford and Bournemouth players were playing in a lower league last season and seem to be doing alright.But you cant say promote youth in that case because U21, U19 is way below championship level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Mou's job is to be able to motivate the players and get the best out of them but he is failing to do so. People caa talk as much as they want about his past succes as to why he should stay in charge but nothing in his past suggest he is any good at managing a club in the long term. In fact his past suggest the opposite.We have to start building an identity and philosophy and choose players/managers who actually will help in providing that! And i don't think Mou is the man for that and neither are a lot of our playersMy thoughts exactly and thankis for putting this across so succintly.I never thought for a second that Mourinho would wish to stay for a long time at any football club as his tantrums, defensive tactics and insistence on buying marque players every season doesnt seat well with a long-term vision of a team which plays attractive football with a good mixture of home grown youth and experience. It may be a tad idealistic but Mourinho does not even bother to attempt any moves to realize this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellion 170 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Watford and Bournemouth players were playing in a lower league last season and seem to be doing alright.But you cant say promote youth in that case because U21, U19 is way below championship levelPoint noted but in reality neither lower league nor youth team players are getting much of a chance anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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